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Your minimum standard of 'success' for our return to The Championship? 13:10 - May 31 with 5112 viewsbaxterbasics

Your minimum standard of 'success' for our return to The Championship?


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Your minimum standard of 'success' for our return to The Championship? on 18:55 - May 31 with 1385 viewsNomore4

Your minimum standard of 'success' for our return to The Championship? on 17:59 - May 31 by Swansea_Blue

Some decent football, decent positive atmosphere and general improvement. I don’t find it healthy to have league table goals, as some people go off on one if they’re not met half way through the season (last season being an excellent example).


I’ve gone top 2…..the owners ain’t here to **** around.
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Your minimum standard of 'success' for our return to The Championship? on 19:22 - May 31 with 1373 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

Your minimum standard of 'success' for our return to The Championship? on 17:59 - May 31 by Swansea_Blue

Some decent football, decent positive atmosphere and general improvement. I don’t find it healthy to have league table goals, as some people go off on one if they’re not met half way through the season (last season being an excellent example).


“ last season being an excellent example).”

Ah the timeless ‘we aren’t even going to make the playoffs’ hissy fit.
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Your minimum standard of 'success' for our return to The Championship? on 21:39 - May 31 with 1341 viewsWeirdFishes

Feel a bit naive selecting challenging for the playoffs, but from the choices you’ve given think that’s about the closest I can get to what I think.

Personally for me mid-table is about par for what we should aim for the ability of this squad/manager in its current state.

Top half I would say would be a success against where I think the par is.

I think we could absolutely challenge for top 6, but there’s about 15 sides who are in that same position.

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Your minimum standard of 'success' for our return to The Championship? on 21:48 - May 31 with 1338 viewsipswichtillidie

Minimum surely has to be mid table. Worrying people thinking a minimum of playoffs tbh. I’m
Hopefully we will be around that but hopeful, not expectant. The beauty is we have an ownership who will go again because the prize is so big and that’s the end game (PL) would be ridiculous if we achieved next season. Expectations need to be tempered. It’s a project.

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Your minimum standard of 'success' for our return to The Championship? on 23:33 - May 31 with 1316 viewsScuzzer

After a promotion I think any 'minimum' is to survive. I see for us the potential in our squad is to be challenging for the playoffs as a realistic target.

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Your minimum standard of 'success' for our return to The Championship? on 08:35 - Jun 1 with 1284 viewsDarth_Koont

Your minimum standard of 'success' for our return to The Championship? on 13:51 - May 31 by jayessess

60% say "minimum standard" is challenging for the play-offs. Really hope we don't get on the manager/players' backs if it's a bit tougher than that.
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I suppose it’s the minimum standard of success that skews it slightly.

I first read it as the minimum expectation for the season. But if we’re talking a successful season rather than just a decent season, we’d probably be in that mid-table to flirting with the top 6 area.

But fully agree we don’t want too many fans taking a top-half finish as a minimum expectation and getting arsey if we look like falling short. Even if I think McKenna and the squad have the potential for it, a top-half finish over a full Championship season would be a significant step forward for the team and the club.

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Your minimum standard of 'success' for our return to The Championship? on 08:38 - Jun 1 with 1272 viewsGeoffSentence

Needs a 100 points 100 goals option

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Your minimum standard of 'success' for our return to The Championship? on 08:47 - Jun 1 with 1258 viewsthorpedo

Play-offs the minimum to be considered a 'success'. We've come up flying - 12 wins and 2 draws from our last 14 games. Most of our players have been recruited as 'Championship' players. We have a superb young manager, full house most weeks, players full of confidence and the funds for some more shrewd recruitment. Bookies haven't got us 5th favourites for no reason.

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Your minimum standard of 'success' for our return to The Championship? on 08:55 - Jun 1 with 1253 viewsiamatractorboy

I went for 'Mid Table', but there is a lot dependent on how well recruitment goes during the summer. If it is as successful as Xmas/NY then who knows, top 6 could be doable.
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Your minimum standard of 'success' for our return to The Championship? on 08:56 - Jun 1 with 1253 viewstractordownsouth

Your minimum standard of 'success' for our return to The Championship? on 13:56 - May 31 by SlippinJimmyJuan

It seems that Sunderland have made a lot of fans believe it is easier than it probably will be. Carlton Palmer was on talksport earlier suggesting that Wednesday will gain back-to-back promotions. Top of the bottom half would be fine with me, although I believe we can and probably will do better than that.


That's hilarious. Without some strong additions, Wednesday will do well to stay out of the bottom three.

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Your minimum standard of 'success' for our return to The Championship? on 13:06 - Jun 1 with 1208 viewsChurchman

Your minimum standard of 'success' for our return to The Championship? on 17:56 - May 31 by Vic

I’ve put challenging for playoffs, but at this point there are so many variables. We’ve no idea what players we might sign - or that we might lose, so come back in 6 weeks and we can have another vote!


That’s fair. The picture could look totally different 1st August, one way or the other.

Clubs are at different stages. Some have to do a total rebuild, others not. Leicester, Leeds have to restructure and rebuild their club? Finances? Who knows. Manager? Who knows. Wednesday and Argyle will see significant changes to their team, maybe even lose their managers. Will they be stronger? Maybe. Other clubs will descend into the financial mire, some the opposite.

Norwich have signed a few. Whoopidoo for them. So we signed a few frees by this time last year. So what, it’s not a race. We are in a different space now both in division terms and where the team is. If January and last summer is anything to go by, be can be sure our recruitment team will not be rummaging in the leavings and bargain bin as we did under Evans. Nor will they be scratching the waster but can do a job bin either.

One thing for sure is that signing players and moving others out is a complex business and somebody said quite reasonably that the transfers you think will run smoothly don’t and visa versa.

So yes, new vote needed for August or September! In the meantime, I hold by my view of aim for top six and see where we get to. Maybe hope over realism, but I don’t think the owners are interested in messing about.
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Your minimum standard of 'success' for our return to The Championship? on 13:11 - Jun 1 with 1203 viewsThisIsMyUsername

No option for '100 points, 100 goals'.

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Your minimum standard of 'success' for our return to The Championship? on 13:22 - Jun 1 with 1175 viewsWhos_blue

It doesn't fit a category, but 12th to 8th is what I'm hoping for, which I we can comfortably achieve.
One question I do have for the play offs and top two voters is are you expecting us to pull together a premier league team in waiting in one season, following 4 seasons in the third division?
Not looking for a row, just genuinely interested.
We blew it in 2001 by bringing in players and arguably disrupting the "team" that got us there.
I just fear that back to back promotions will leave us ill rquipped for the prem and we come straight back down.
We haven't played in the championship for 5 seasons. We shouldn't underestimate that. It might be very different from how we remember it.

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Your minimum standard of 'success' for our return to The Championship? on 13:37 - Jun 1 with 1157 viewsburnbudgiesburn

I'm more interested in what GC & McKenna see as the minimum standard of success.

I think we should judge how successful the season has been against that.
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Your minimum standard of 'success' for our return to The Championship? on 22:45 - Jun 1 with 1045 viewsskinnybob72

Your minimum standard of 'success' for our return to The Championship? on 13:56 - May 31 by SlippinJimmyJuan

It seems that Sunderland have made a lot of fans believe it is easier than it probably will be. Carlton Palmer was on talksport earlier suggesting that Wednesday will gain back-to-back promotions. Top of the bottom half would be fine with me, although I believe we can and probably will do better than that.


Hooffield Wednesday will be nowhere near promotion next season. They make Wimbledon’s Crazy Gang look like Pep’s Barcelona team. Staying up with that style of play will be an achievement.
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Your minimum standard of 'success' for our return to The Championship? on 23:39 - Jun 1 with 1031 viewsChurchman

Your minimum standard of 'success' for our return to The Championship? on 13:22 - Jun 1 by Whos_blue

It doesn't fit a category, but 12th to 8th is what I'm hoping for, which I we can comfortably achieve.
One question I do have for the play offs and top two voters is are you expecting us to pull together a premier league team in waiting in one season, following 4 seasons in the third division?
Not looking for a row, just genuinely interested.
We blew it in 2001 by bringing in players and arguably disrupting the "team" that got us there.
I just fear that back to back promotions will leave us ill rquipped for the prem and we come straight back down.
We haven't played in the championship for 5 seasons. We shouldn't underestimate that. It might be very different from how we remember it.


With regard to pulling together a play off / promotion team, my answer is simply yes. We have the basis of a good team for the Championship here and now. With the odd addition in the areas discussed, why not aim for top six? At least for starters.

It maybe too much but I’ve seen nothing to stop us trying. The years in L1? Only the last season is worthy of scrutiny. The last 12 months - the club itself feels much more organised and geared to move forwards. That’s the noises coming out of it anyway.

With regard to the 2001 team, yes, the wrong people at the wrong time destroyed team spirit. For that reason alone I wouldn’t want to see too many changes. Evolution.

Agreed, the seasons have passed but whatever the differences, we won’t be rolling over like we did when we were relegated. As for the PL, while you may well be right, take the opportunity if it’s there is my view.
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Your minimum standard of 'success' for our return to The Championship? on 23:57 - Jun 1 with 1025 viewsVegtablue

Your minimum standard of 'success' for our return to The Championship? on 13:22 - Jun 1 by Whos_blue

It doesn't fit a category, but 12th to 8th is what I'm hoping for, which I we can comfortably achieve.
One question I do have for the play offs and top two voters is are you expecting us to pull together a premier league team in waiting in one season, following 4 seasons in the third division?
Not looking for a row, just genuinely interested.
We blew it in 2001 by bringing in players and arguably disrupting the "team" that got us there.
I just fear that back to back promotions will leave us ill rquipped for the prem and we come straight back down.
We haven't played in the championship for 5 seasons. We shouldn't underestimate that. It might be very different from how we remember it.


A year getting our arses handed to us because we climbed too fast would see us in a great position to go again in season three, plus what a ride!
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Your minimum standard of 'success' for our return to The Championship? on 06:52 - Jun 2 with 992 viewsPioneerBlue

Your minimum standard of 'success' for our return to The Championship? on 13:29 - May 31 by jayessess

I put 10th-15th. Every other club in the division has a head start in terms of recruiting for the Championship in the Championship. We're a newly promoted club and whilst long term, I think Top 8 is par performance on our budget, if next season was a question of transitioning to that sort of status, I'd understand.


I did exactly the same but the thing that give greater confidence is seeing what Sunderland did. However they recruited very well. They were a strong/longer ball Sheff Wed esq side in L1 but appear to have added pace and quality.

I would say a bit more experience in CDf, Mdf, AMdf and a striker then we are set. It means we have either no drop off when finishers arrive at 60-70 mins or there are real challengers for starting XI players.

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