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FFS Starmer 07:45 - Jun 29 with 11664 viewsGlasgowBlue

Not happy about this latest u turn tbh. Johnson dismantling DfID was a shameful, populist and very harmful move. Starmer gave a pledge to bring it back.



Sorry for going all koonters but he’s u turning on just about everything.
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FFS Starmer on 12:54 - Jun 29 with 2065 viewsWD19

FFS Starmer on 09:10 - Jun 29 by Ryorry

FFS. How about seeing what he *actually* does, if and when he’s able to, because actually in power.


Are you saying we should not trust what he says? Because there is f-all reason why he can’t tell us what he is planning at least……would make a nice change from talking about the ‘things he was planning when he thought he needed to do it but has since decided not to bother with’ list.
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FFS Starmer on 12:55 - Jun 29 with 2032 viewsDarth_Koont

FFS Starmer on 10:36 - Jun 29 by The_Flashing_Smile

I'll ask you like I've asked Bankster: What's the answer? What do we do about it?

Or are you just shouting into a bin?


Demand much more. Demand policies that are real answer to real problems.

I’m not voting Labour because I think they’re just a different shade of the same status quo nonsense. And we haven’t got the time to keep going down this same failed road.

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FFS Starmer on 13:18 - Jun 29 with 2001 viewsPinewoodblue

FFS Starmer on 12:55 - Jun 29 by Darth_Koont

Demand much more. Demand policies that are real answer to real problems.

I’m not voting Labour because I think they’re just a different shade of the same status quo nonsense. And we haven’t got the time to keep going down this same failed road.


Can we have your recommendations on who to vote for?

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FFS Starmer on 13:40 - Jun 29 with 1963 viewsDarth_Koont

FFS Starmer on 13:18 - Jun 29 by Pinewoodblue

Can we have your recommendations on who to vote for?


Most votes don’t count or matter anyway. Such is the nature of our system before we even get into the inadequacy of the “choice” available.

Personally, I’d vote Green or SNP/Scottish Greens in Scotland. But if it’s a straight contest in your constituency between the Tories and Labour then go Labour unless the candidate is a sh/tweasel.

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FFS Starmer on 14:06 - Jun 29 with 1940 viewsitfc_bucks

Starmer needs to just keep his trap shut on any commitments until the GE, as all that will happen is the right wing gutter press will tot up the cost and run sh*t stories about unfunded spending plans.

Keep his powder dry until this shambles of a govt dies and then come with the manifesto.

FWIW, more pain and bloodletting will only result in stronger pro-EU rejoin sentiment, I firmly believe. From that perspective, this may all prove to be worth it in the longer term.
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FFS Starmer on 14:09 - Jun 29 with 1939 viewsEwan_Oozami

FFS Starmer on 12:55 - Jun 29 by Darth_Koont

Demand much more. Demand policies that are real answer to real problems.

I’m not voting Labour because I think they’re just a different shade of the same status quo nonsense. And we haven’t got the time to keep going down this same failed road.


Would you recommend this book by any chance?

https://amzn.eu/d/fh383Ju

You are the obsolete SRN4 to my Fairey Rotodyne....
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FFS Starmer on 14:10 - Jun 29 with 1936 viewsLeaky

FFS Starmer on 08:47 - Jun 29 by SuperKieranMcKenna

Are we therefore not just exporting the carbon emissions, and increasing it by transporting it here (appreciate some is imported in LNG, some via pipelines). Surely we’d be better off targeting consumption rather than extraction since the demand will still be there (and growing for petrochemicals).

Since most homes are still burning gas for heating, I’d like to see it taxed at a higher rate with funds set aside to help people insulate their homes and install heat pumps. This is largely an unaffordable luxury for many so grants would go a long way to reducing carbon consumption.


You try fitting heat pumps & insulating homes that were built in the early 1900's
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FFS Starmer on 14:21 - Jun 29 with 1903 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

FFS Starmer on 12:55 - Jun 29 by Darth_Koont

Demand much more. Demand policies that are real answer to real problems.

I’m not voting Labour because I think they’re just a different shade of the same status quo nonsense. And we haven’t got the time to keep going down this same failed road.


How do you demand more? What are you doing to demand more?

You've replied to another poster above that if it’s a straight contest in your constituency between the Tories and Labour then go Labour. That's demanding more is it? That's what I was already doing!

I demanded more by voting for Corbyn. Where did that get me?

Trust the process. Trust Phil.

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FFS Starmer on 14:23 - Jun 29 with 1885 viewsDarth_Koont

FFS Starmer on 14:09 - Jun 29 by Ewan_Oozami

Would you recommend this book by any chance?

https://amzn.eu/d/fh383Ju


Doubtful.

We had a choice 2015-2019 and Campbell tried to torpedo it every chance he got. And I expect he means reject Johnson’s crude lies and accept his own dodgy spin.

But I guess he knows a thing or two about tactics.

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FFS Starmer on 14:24 - Jun 29 with 1889 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

FFS Starmer on 12:45 - Jun 29 by BanksterDebtSlave

Ah I see you must prefer your Singapore sur-mer.


"Stop enabling them."

"Right, so don't vote Labour then? That's your plan?"


Still no answer despite replying to others in the thread.

I suspect it's because you don't have an answer. It's very easy to shout stuff and then stick your fingers in your ears when the questions come.

Trust the process. Trust Phil.

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FFS Starmer on 14:26 - Jun 29 with 1885 viewsEwan_Oozami

FFS Starmer on 14:23 - Jun 29 by Darth_Koont

Doubtful.

We had a choice 2015-2019 and Campbell tried to torpedo it every chance he got. And I expect he means reject Johnson’s crude lies and accept his own dodgy spin.

But I guess he knows a thing or two about tactics.


I was being a bit cheeky tbf!

You are the obsolete SRN4 to my Fairey Rotodyne....
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FFS Starmer on 14:34 - Jun 29 with 1874 viewsRyorry

FFS Starmer on 12:54 - Jun 29 by WD19

Are you saying we should not trust what he says? Because there is f-all reason why he can’t tell us what he is planning at least……would make a nice change from talking about the ‘things he was planning when he thought he needed to do it but has since decided not to bother with’ list.


Read the thread.

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FFS Starmer on 14:36 - Jun 29 with 1869 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

FFS Starmer on 12:45 - Jun 29 by BanksterDebtSlave

Ah I see you must prefer your Singapore sur-mer.


Since we’ve relaxed regulation in the City, and environmental protections post Brexit that comment doesn’t make sense.

But you keep ‘sticking it to the man’.
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FFS Starmer on 14:42 - Jun 29 with 1862 viewsPinewoodblue

FFS Starmer on 13:40 - Jun 29 by Darth_Koont

Most votes don’t count or matter anyway. Such is the nature of our system before we even get into the inadequacy of the “choice” available.

Personally, I’d vote Green or SNP/Scottish Greens in Scotland. But if it’s a straight contest in your constituency between the Tories and Labour then go Labour unless the candidate is a sh/tweasel.


Seems to me that the seats Labour gain from SNP will make the difference come the day of reckoning.

With the prospect of no party having an overall majority guess it will the minor parties that hold the balance of power but thanks for your advice. Some of your comments now make more sense.

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FFS Starmer on 15:06 - Jun 29 with 1820 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

FFS Starmer on 14:21 - Jun 29 by The_Flashing_Smile

How do you demand more? What are you doing to demand more?

You've replied to another poster above that if it’s a straight contest in your constituency between the Tories and Labour then go Labour. That's demanding more is it? That's what I was already doing!

I demanded more by voting for Corbyn. Where did that get me?


Be sure to demand more on the other 1,824 days too.

"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
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FFS Starmer on 15:57 - Jun 29 with 1773 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

FFS Starmer on 15:06 - Jun 29 by BanksterDebtSlave

Be sure to demand more on the other 1,824 days too.


I've no idea what you're talking about.
Are you deliberately obfuscating in order to avoid the questions you can't answer?

Trust the process. Trust Phil.

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FFS Starmer on 16:15 - Jun 29 with 1739 viewsDarth_Koont

FFS Starmer on 14:42 - Jun 29 by Pinewoodblue

Seems to me that the seats Labour gain from SNP will make the difference come the day of reckoning.

With the prospect of no party having an overall majority guess it will the minor parties that hold the balance of power but thanks for your advice. Some of your comments now make more sense.


I think you’re right.

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FFS Starmer on 17:50 - Jun 29 with 1701 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

FFS Starmer on 15:57 - Jun 29 by The_Flashing_Smile

I've no idea what you're talking about.
Are you deliberately obfuscating in order to avoid the questions you can't answer?


Sorry I thought you were demanding more by voting one day in every 5 years which leaves a lot of other days.


"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
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FFS Starmer on 17:53 - Jun 29 with 1699 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

FFS Starmer on 14:36 - Jun 29 by SuperKieranMcKenna

Since we’ve relaxed regulation in the City, and environmental protections post Brexit that comment doesn’t make sense.

But you keep ‘sticking it to the man’.


Other versions of not being in the EU are and will be available.

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FFS Starmer on 18:00 - Jun 29 with 1694 viewspositivity

FFS Starmer on 17:53 - Jun 29 by BanksterDebtSlave

Other versions of not being in the EU are and will be available.


poor bankster, enabling boris and nige and then expecting them to enact a nice, woolly, kind brexit.

such a trusting soul!

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FFS Starmer on 18:41 - Jun 29 with 1654 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

FFS Starmer on 17:53 - Jun 29 by BanksterDebtSlave

Other versions of not being in the EU are and will be available.


Considering you think Tony Blair was right wing, I can’t help but feel you are going to be very disappointed.
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FFS Starmer on 19:28 - Jun 29 with 1626 viewsibbleobble

FFS Starmer on 08:09 - Jun 29 by Herbivore

He's looked at the public finances and realised that within their own rules around fiscal policy they are literally not going to be able to do anything, so his response is to essentially have no policies. A more progressive leader might look at how a wealthy country might seek to balance its books by clawing back some of the wealth that big businesses and super rich individuals have accumulated in recent years whilst most of us have felt the pain and then using that money to invest in the country in ways that will boost growth that benefits everyone. Unfortunately, Labour is not a progressive party under Starmer and the best we're likely to get is something that feels a lot like the Con/Lib coalition of 2010-2015.


So we tax those who have profited from capitalism the most and redistribute that wealth to stimulate economic growth to drive consumption up. So effectively, we tax people to get some money off them to give it back to them to afford to exist under an illusion of what, prosperity?

In other words, your theory is we replace capitalism with…capitalism! And you have a poke at me for flawed arguments? Maybe rein it in a little before you jump on BlueBadger’s Guardian bandwagon recital.

Your way out of the vicious circle is, degrowth, not growth. Taxing the rich to give to the poor is Robin Hood nonsense and a deeply flawed populist theory.
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FFS Starmer on 19:34 - Jun 29 with 1613 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

FFS Starmer on 18:41 - Jun 29 by SuperKieranMcKenna

Considering you think Tony Blair was right wing, I can’t help but feel you are going to be very disappointed.


Well he was wasn't he..P.P.I,....resource wars etc....privatising health...student loans.....what did I miss?
I've got used to it so I'll be fine thanks.

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FFS Starmer on 20:04 - Jun 29 with 1594 viewsBugs

FFS Starmer on 18:41 - Jun 29 by SuperKieranMcKenna

Considering you think Tony Blair was right wing, I can’t help but feel you are going to be very disappointed.


You're not left wing if you privatise sh!t loads of our national infrastructure (including schools and the NHS) and become a poodle to G.W. Bush and get involved in dodgy wars.
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FFS Starmer on 20:35 - Jun 29 with 1548 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

FFS Starmer on 17:50 - Jun 29 by BanksterDebtSlave

Sorry I thought you were demanding more by voting one day in every 5 years which leaves a lot of other days.



A vote isn't about one day though is it?

Regardless, you're still just avoiding the questions. You're a bin shouter and a fraud.

Trust the process. Trust Phil.

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