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Like many on here I've done a bit of fruit picking as a student, but a few weeks is different to doing it long term. It's a skilled, hard job and I wasn't very good at it. I remember a whole morning's work being condemned to the juice section because someone had seen me pick an apple the wrong way, which could mean bruising, which could mean supermarkets rejecting a consignment. Pay was docked accordingly. It wasn't like Pop Larkin.
Like many on here I've done a bit of fruit picking as a student, but a few weeks is different to doing it long term. It's a skilled, hard job and I wasn't very good at it. I remember a whole morning's work being condemned to the juice section because someone had seen me pick an apple the wrong way, which could mean bruising, which could mean supermarkets rejecting a consignment. Pay was docked accordingly. It wasn't like Pop Larkin.
This is what winds me up, all very well saying we want our own pickers but there's no thought into why we don't have loads of them. I imagine it has very little to do with hard work (which neither of the presenters challenged him on) and more to do with it being a lifestyle and pay issue.
It's very seasonal, you can't just have a steady job and a flat in one place and do it for the whole year, you've got to go where the picking is. That's immediately going to put off a load of people who don't want to live that lifestyle in combination with fairly poor wages.
And guess where there are not a lot of local people? Out in the sticks where the farms are, so that might be why there are not loads of locals doing fruit picking, because why would there be?
Why nobody ever challenges people on this I don't know.
But let's say we want to raise their wages so we encourage people into it. Great. Food costs more now, I'm sure everyone will be happy with that and there won't be any grumbling.
It's the same with the international students, they want to stop so many of them but there is nothing about how you then deal with the massive funding gap created. Imagine they're not challenged on that either.
This is what winds me up, all very well saying we want our own pickers but there's no thought into why we don't have loads of them. I imagine it has very little to do with hard work (which neither of the presenters challenged him on) and more to do with it being a lifestyle and pay issue.
It's very seasonal, you can't just have a steady job and a flat in one place and do it for the whole year, you've got to go where the picking is. That's immediately going to put off a load of people who don't want to live that lifestyle in combination with fairly poor wages.
And guess where there are not a lot of local people? Out in the sticks where the farms are, so that might be why there are not loads of locals doing fruit picking, because why would there be?
Why nobody ever challenges people on this I don't know.
But let's say we want to raise their wages so we encourage people into it. Great. Food costs more now, I'm sure everyone will be happy with that and there won't be any grumbling.
It's the same with the international students, they want to stop so many of them but there is nothing about how you then deal with the massive funding gap created. Imagine they're not challenged on that either.
It's just completely divorced from reality.
The obvious answer is to allow the return of the free festival circuit and hordes of anarcho punks and hippies living in untaxed and uninsured vehicles to pick your fruit and veg. Twtd.
"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
The obvious answer is to allow the return of the free festival circuit and hordes of anarcho punks and hippies living in untaxed and uninsured vehicles to pick your fruit and veg. Twtd.
He just missed out the bit of going to one of the most expensive schools in Cambridgeshire, the job that Daddy got him at his constituents veg picking company as a favour
And then he went on to study at Oxford.
Tommy’s role as Chief of Staff to the Mayor of Peterborough & Cambridge was also called into question and his dad has been accused multiple times of misogyny and homophobia in local politics.
He just missed out the bit of going to one of the most expensive schools in Cambridgeshire, the job that Daddy got him at his constituents veg picking company as a favour
And then he went on to study at Oxford.
Tommy’s role as Chief of Staff to the Mayor of Peterborough & Cambridge was also called into question and his dad has been accused multiple times of misogyny and homophobia in local politics.
All in all a lovely family.
An expensive education and an Oxford degree and, like so many others, a complete moron
He wants less migration to fill low paid jobs (care workers) instead we should train UK workers and give them the skills, conveniently omitting which government cut the training courses
The shortage of UK workers as care workers is not through any lack of skill, but lack pof mobility, as with so much else in the shortage of labour.
Try moving 'down south' with a family. No council houses, and a 3 bed house in Barnsley will not be enough to buy a three bed house in Basingstoke. Migrant labour is often transient and will put up with far lower housing, as often it is actually a step up.
He confuses 'illegal' migrants with those with permission to work here. Believing those seeking asylum are being employed
And as with Dorries not knowing that CH4 was NOT publicly funded, so the righties new golden girl spoke to some mini Nuremberg Rally this morning, under the misapprehension that care workers were part of the NHS.
How the fck did these thickos get into Parliament, you may ask.
Because idiots around you voted for them. Believed known liars, and were in denial to all evidence
* she bleats that care workers should be paid more, yet the very policy of her government has been to pay NHS staff less than inflation
Like many on here I've done a bit of fruit picking as a student, but a few weeks is different to doing it long term. It's a skilled, hard job and I wasn't very good at it. I remember a whole morning's work being condemned to the juice section because someone had seen me pick an apple the wrong way, which could mean bruising, which could mean supermarkets rejecting a consignment. Pay was docked accordingly. It wasn't like Pop Larkin.
Quite. Ask him to swap his current job for being a full time fruit picker and I suspect he’d go a bit quiet.
This 12 point ‘plan’ of theirs is madness. They’d take £millions/billions more out of the economy, hitting multiple sectors. Just the overseas student stuff would be madness. They are quite bonkers. Like religious zealots.
He just missed out the bit of going to one of the most expensive schools in Cambridgeshire, the job that Daddy got him at his constituents veg picking company as a favour
And then he went on to study at Oxford.
Tommy’s role as Chief of Staff to the Mayor of Peterborough & Cambridge was also called into question and his dad has been accused multiple times of misogyny and homophobia in local politics.
All in all a lovely family.
Thankfully he is not part of the 'establishment' that his sort rail against.
i expect that as with so many others of his kind(Tory MPs) they can see what is coming and like Alan partridge are coming up with ever more lunatic ideas, that have no grounding in reality.
Fruit picking etc has always been a short term job usually filled by transient labour. Just as with hop picking .
The manual veg picking in East Anglia was previously carried out mostly be women who did NOT have a regular job. Those times have gone, as most woman now have a job and veg harvesting is done by machinery.
And I suspect that most people in the UK are concerned that their elderly relatives will be cared for, irrespective of where their carers come from.
To suggest that care homes should be banned from recruiting skilled care workers because they are not UK nationals is absurd, as well as dangerous.
This is brexit all over again. Fill idiot heads by stupid ideas, then disappear when the sht hits the fan. As with Farage and Johnson. Don't give a sht for the trail of damage, just lie to benefit yourself.
He wants less migration to fill low paid jobs (care workers) instead we should train UK workers and give them the skills, conveniently omitting which government cut the training courses
The shortage of UK workers as care workers is not through any lack of skill, but lack pof mobility, as with so much else in the shortage of labour.
Try moving 'down south' with a family. No council houses, and a 3 bed house in Barnsley will not be enough to buy a three bed house in Basingstoke. Migrant labour is often transient and will put up with far lower housing, as often it is actually a step up.
He confuses 'illegal' migrants with those with permission to work here. Believing those seeking asylum are being employed
And as with Dorries not knowing that CH4 was NOT publicly funded, so the righties new golden girl spoke to some mini Nuremberg Rally this morning, under the misapprehension that care workers were part of the NHS.
How the fck did these thickos get into Parliament, you may ask.
Because idiots around you voted for them. Believed known liars, and were in denial to all evidence
* she bleats that care workers should be paid more, yet the very policy of her government has been to pay NHS staff less than inflation
"Migrant labour is often transient and will put up with far lower housing, as often it is actually a step up."
Thank you EU. It's almost like it is/was a neo Conservative construct.
"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
"Migrant labour is often transient and will put up with far lower housing, as often it is actually a step up."
Thank you EU. It's almost like it is/was a neo Conservative construct.
Yes, it was a cunning plot, to err........... impoverish Eastern European countries by keeping them under Soviet control and so ensure the standard of living was far lower...... so they would be willing to take better paid jobs in 'the west'...... and so impoverish UK workers who, err struggle in their class war, proletariat, emancipation and, err ......................... "power to the people"
I do have to wonder if you are not some send up of the rrrrrr revolutionary left, whichever three letters you are a member of RCP, SWP, WRP
Meanwhile in a desperate attempt to snatch the title of thickest rightie from Rees-Mogg, Miriam Cates MP claims
The Tories current immigration policy will cost them the election, as voters will turn to Labour and the Libdems ................ why ?
The obvious answer is to allow the return of the free festival circuit and hordes of anarcho punks and hippies living in untaxed and uninsured vehicles to pick your fruit and veg. Twtd.
When I were a lad we used to earn a bit of extra pocket money by picking strawberries during the summer holidays.
Of course we had no child labour legislation to prevent that back in the day. Bloody eurocrats putting a stop to all that.
This is what winds me up, all very well saying we want our own pickers but there's no thought into why we don't have loads of them. I imagine it has very little to do with hard work (which neither of the presenters challenged him on) and more to do with it being a lifestyle and pay issue.
It's very seasonal, you can't just have a steady job and a flat in one place and do it for the whole year, you've got to go where the picking is. That's immediately going to put off a load of people who don't want to live that lifestyle in combination with fairly poor wages.
And guess where there are not a lot of local people? Out in the sticks where the farms are, so that might be why there are not loads of locals doing fruit picking, because why would there be?
Why nobody ever challenges people on this I don't know.
But let's say we want to raise their wages so we encourage people into it. Great. Food costs more now, I'm sure everyone will be happy with that and there won't be any grumbling.
It's the same with the international students, they want to stop so many of them but there is nothing about how you then deal with the massive funding gap created. Imagine they're not challenged on that either.
It's just completely divorced from reality.
He seemed to have a view that you can start picking radishes and within a couple of years you'll have worked your way up and be a member of the board of directors.
Not that if you want to book a weeks holiday you won't have a job to come back to because they'll just get someone else in and sack you
"Mr Hunt, is it fair to say that your antipathy towards foreigners dates back to the summer when word got around the nightclubs of Wisbech that whilst the Polish lads were waving around leeks, you were only packing a radish?"
Interesting to hear him and the other MPs involved described as part of the Red Wall.
Ipswich is not the Red Wall, having had Tory MPs off and on over the years.
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Agree on this. Ipswich is more of a 'bell weather' seat which will swing the way of the nation. Cannot see the Conservatives hanging on to it, even if they make a recovery in the polls.
I think you'll find this is a parody account. Or at least that's how it comes across.
The sad thing is that when I was in my teens and twenties there was a fringe right wing Tory organisation known as the Monday Club, which even to most Tories was regarded as bonkers.
These days policies that the Monday Club would have advocated have now become mainstream in the Tory Party.
As the author of the report, and obviously an "intellectual", Hunt is clearly positioning himself, post election, for a presumably lucrative role in one of the various right wing think tanks, bankrolled as they are by some very wealthy and rather dodgy individuals and organisations, often with US connections.
As the author of the report, and obviously an "intellectual", Hunt is clearly positioning himself, post election, for a presumably lucrative role in one of the various right wing think tanks, bankrolled as they are by some very wealthy and rather dodgy individuals and organisations, often with US connections.
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There would be a wonderful irony to this though if he couldn’t find employment anywhere else and ended up picking fruit and vegetables again when he’s no longer an MP.
We have no village green, or a shop.
It's very, very quiet.
I can walk to the pub.
There would be a wonderful irony to this though if he couldn’t find employment anywhere else and ended up picking fruit and vegetables again when he’s no longer an MP.
Now THAT would be leadership!!!! He would be doing what he says.
There would be a wonderful irony to this though if he couldn’t find employment anywhere else and ended up picking fruit and vegetables again when he’s no longer an MP.
He'll go back to his Media Manager job for The Countryside Alliance, I'm sure.
Please note: prior to hitting the post button, I've double checked for anything that could be construed as "Anti Semitic" and to the best of my knowledge it isn't. Anything deemed to be of a Xenophobic nature is therefore purely accidental or down to your own misconstruing.
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