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People writing off Marcus Harness 11:50 - Jul 15 with 6840 viewsGlasgowBlue

One of the standout players in the first half of last season before his injury and he's started pre season like a man on a mission.

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People writing off Marcus Harness on 12:02 - Jul 15 with 4578 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

I think "standout" is pushing it a bit. He certainly had some decent games, but also a few where he was a bit anonymous. After the injury he was pretty cr@p for the most part for me, but I'd be delighted to see him turn that around.

What makes you say he's playing like a man on a mission, have you seen any of the friendlies?

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People writing off Marcus Harness on 12:04 - Jul 15 with 4571 viewsunstableblue

Perhaps a confidence player, who’s a bit streaky. But I reckon McKenna has faith in him. And his goals and play in the first half of the season frankly garnered key points that led to promotion.

Very interested to see how his does this season, but does feel he’ll be more an impact sub.. and not sure that fully suits.

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Him and Jackson do seem to be the players fans are questioning - alongside Evans

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People writing off Marcus Harness on 12:07 - Jul 15 with 4540 viewsStokieBlue

You've missed out the half a season when he was poor, understandably so as it undermines your point somewhat.

He seems to have started well in pre-season so hopefully he can carry that into the league but I still think he's someone we would upgrade if the opportunity arose. I also think there is a good chance he will be in the 25.

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People writing off Marcus Harness on 12:11 - Jul 15 with 4502 viewsLankHenners

The main issue with him was when he wasn't contributing goals then he wasn't really contributing at all. If he can re-find his form in that regard then all the better but would have some improving to do to be ready for a Championship campaign imo.

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People writing off Marcus Harness on 12:12 - Jul 15 with 4501 viewsGlasgowBlue

People writing off Marcus Harness on 12:02 - Jul 15 by The_Flashing_Smile

I think "standout" is pushing it a bit. He certainly had some decent games, but also a few where he was a bit anonymous. After the injury he was pretty cr@p for the most part for me, but I'd be delighted to see him turn that around.

What makes you say he's playing like a man on a mission, have you seen any of the friendlies?


I know it's only pre season but seen a few clips and he's been scoring goals. I've seen a few threads writing him off as somebody we are shipping out and I really think his first half of last season has been forgotten.

You're right, he didn't find his groove when he returned from injury and missed a couple of sitters that seemed to drain his confidence. Did he come back too early perhaps?

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People writing off Marcus Harness on 12:14 - Jul 15 with 4458 viewsGlasgowBlue

People writing off Marcus Harness on 12:07 - Jul 15 by StokieBlue

You've missed out the half a season when he was poor, understandably so as it undermines your point somewhat.

He seems to have started well in pre-season so hopefully he can carry that into the league but I still think he's someone we would upgrade if the opportunity arose. I also think there is a good chance he will be in the 25.

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I didn't miss out the second half of the season to reinforce my point. I specifically said "before his injury" in my op. I've discussed his early return from injury on here more than once. Like Fridge, I think he came back from injury too early. He also played second fiddle to Broadhead in the second half of the season so his game time was limited.
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People writing off Marcus Harness on 12:15 - Jul 15 with 4440 viewsLegendofthePhoenix

I think he is ahead of 3 or 4 players in the squad in terms of who we would move on if we bring new players in. Not every one of the 25 can be a regular starter, so you need players who push those regular starters, and can do a good job when they come on for 30 minutes or so. MH is in that category for me, and I feel he will be ready and waiting if Broady can't start or drops form.
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People writing off Marcus Harness on 12:32 - Jul 15 with 4296 viewsFixed_It

People writing off Marcus Harness on 12:11 - Jul 15 by LankHenners

The main issue with him was when he wasn't contributing goals then he wasn't really contributing at all. If he can re-find his form in that regard then all the better but would have some improving to do to be ready for a Championship campaign imo.


If you watch his movement off the ball you'll see how he contributes. He lost his confidence in front of goal last season after his injury, but people writing him.off are being a bit premature. He may not be a regular starter, but I think he still has a contribution to make this season.
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People writing off Marcus Harness on 12:34 - Jul 15 with 4264 viewsN2_Blue

I said this a week ago (although I note it was only 1 goal he scored and not 2). Bit disappointed in the response of those who posted in reply. Hope we can back him to find form and confidence.

2 goals for Harness tonight by N2_Blue 7 Jul 2023 21:25
Be great if he could find that form he had when he first joined us!



Could be a vital squad player for us at least when in form.
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People writing off Marcus Harness on 12:42 - Jul 15 with 4166 viewsJDB23

I do wince a bit when seeing some of the comments targeted at him, he seems like he genuinely loves being at this football club. Hope he can find some form this season and play a big part.
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People writing off Marcus Harness on 12:45 - Jul 15 with 4136 viewsReusersTown

Not really standout in overall performance, but scored some impactful goals. It would be quite worrying if he was getting regular gametime into the season.
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People writing off Marcus Harness on 12:45 - Jul 15 by ReusersTown

Not really standout in overall performance, but scored some impactful goals. It would be quite worrying if he was getting regular gametime into the season.


Really, you'd assume that if he were getting game time, it would be deserved!

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People writing off Marcus Harness on 13:00 - Jul 15 with 4017 viewswkj

Maybe a bit of a Naylor type - has purple patches and possibly may become a super sub.

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People writing off Marcus Harness on 13:05 - Jul 15 with 3987 viewsNaylorsrightboot

Pompey fans did say he always had purple patches and then would become totally anonymous for months on end. We will see this season, as last was hampered with that injury. Jury is still out for me.
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People writing off Marcus Harness on 13:20 - Jul 15 with 3921 viewsgosblue

Confidence seemed to dip when we signed broadhead. He still has a lot to offer but like everyone else, he has to take his opportunities.
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People writing off Marcus Harness on 13:28 - Jul 15 with 3885 viewsLeoMuff

People writing off Marcus Harness on 12:42 - Jul 15 by JDB23

I do wince a bit when seeing some of the comments targeted at him, he seems like he genuinely loves being at this football club. Hope he can find some form this season and play a big part.


Our pressing from the front is best when he is in the side but Broadt offers far more going foward. Decent player but will need to up his game to be starting when everyone is fit

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People writing off Marcus Harness on 13:35 - Jul 15 with 3818 viewsHerbivore

I'm not convinced he's got the technical ability to be a significant player for us. His touch isn't great at all, even when he was contributing goals regularly, and that sloppiness in possession isn't good for us with the way we play. He works hard and his movement is decent, when on song he's an added goal threat, but his role as back up to Broadhead is definitely one where we could upgrade, imo.

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People writing off Marcus Harness on 13:45 - Jul 15 with 3771 viewsSwansea_Blue

I thought he was shot to pieces for the 2nd half of the season and said regularly I wouldn’t have had him in the squad.

I’m looking forward to being made to eat those words. He can be very good; if he can get back to his best and sustain it, that’ll be great for us.

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People writing off Marcus Harness on 13:47 - Jul 15 with 3742 viewsDJR

People writing off Marcus Harness on 12:14 - Jul 15 by GlasgowBlue

I didn't miss out the second half of the season to reinforce my point. I specifically said "before his injury" in my op. I've discussed his early return from injury on here more than once. Like Fridge, I think he came back from injury too early. He also played second fiddle to Broadhead in the second half of the season so his game time was limited.
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I thought he performed a function for us even when he came back from injury with his ability to hold on to the ball and make a lot of intelligent passes. That's an important role, and one which may be needed even more next season, when we are not running away with things but are instead holding on to a one goal lead.
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People writing off Marcus Harness on 13:51 - Jul 15 with 3707 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

People writing off Marcus Harness on 13:35 - Jul 15 by Herbivore

I'm not convinced he's got the technical ability to be a significant player for us. His touch isn't great at all, even when he was contributing goals regularly, and that sloppiness in possession isn't good for us with the way we play. He works hard and his movement is decent, when on song he's an added goal threat, but his role as back up to Broadhead is definitely one where we could upgrade, imo.


Indeed, often his first touch or passing is too wayward, and whilst getting caught in possession against the likes of Exeter City is one thing, at Championship level we may well get punished.
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People writing off Marcus Harness on 13:51 - Jul 15 with 3700 viewsHerbivore

People writing off Marcus Harness on 13:47 - Jul 15 by DJR

I thought he performed a function for us even when he came back from injury with his ability to hold on to the ball and make a lot of intelligent passes. That's an important role, and one which may be needed even more next season, when we are not running away with things but are instead holding on to a one goal lead.
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Erm, what?

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People writing off Marcus Harness on 13:58 - Jul 15 with 3662 viewsSE1blue

People writing off Marcus Harness on 13:47 - Jul 15 by DJR

I thought he performed a function for us even when he came back from injury with his ability to hold on to the ball and make a lot of intelligent passes. That's an important role, and one which may be needed even more next season, when we are not running away with things but are instead holding on to a one goal lead.
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I like Harness and really want him to come back to the form he had at the beginning of last season but after injury, he lost the ball a lot (appeared to have a 50p shaped boot at times) and then would rush and foul a player trying to get it back. I didn't see what you're describing.

I really hope he's back to Harness 1.0.

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People writing off Marcus Harness on 14:05 - Jul 15 with 3627 viewsDJR

People writing off Marcus Harness on 13:51 - Jul 15 by Herbivore

Erm, what?


My view is that he played a different role for us when he came on as sub after Christmas to that which he played when he was starting earlier in the season. And I thought he did well, although he got a lot of stick on here in one game when he missed a chance.

Of course, he is a different player to Broadhead (that difference may well be something McKenna likes), and it may be rare that he would rarely start but with 9 subs possible there may well be a place for him.

But it doesn't matter what you or I think. Ultimately it is a matter for McKenna.
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People writing off Marcus Harness on 14:09 - Jul 15 with 3580 viewsDJR

People writing off Marcus Harness on 13:58 - Jul 15 by SE1blue

I like Harness and really want him to come back to the form he had at the beginning of last season but after injury, he lost the ball a lot (appeared to have a 50p shaped boot at times) and then would rush and foul a player trying to get it back. I didn't see what you're describing.

I really hope he's back to Harness 1.0.


I'm obviously in the minority!
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People writing off Marcus Harness on 14:11 - Jul 15 with 3553 viewsHerbivore

People writing off Marcus Harness on 14:05 - Jul 15 by DJR

My view is that he played a different role for us when he came on as sub after Christmas to that which he played when he was starting earlier in the season. And I thought he did well, although he got a lot of stick on here in one game when he missed a chance.

Of course, he is a different player to Broadhead (that difference may well be something McKenna likes), and it may be rare that he would rarely start but with 9 subs possible there may well be a place for him.

But it doesn't matter what you or I think. Ultimately it is a matter for McKenna.


Your description of him holding on to the ball and playing clever passes is totally at odds with what he actually did when he came on in games after his injury though. It's basically the opposite of what he did, which is why he received a lot of criticism. He missed some chances as well, which was probably the big difference compared to the start of the season, but it's his lack of quality in possession at times which is the main issue people have with him and is why many doubt whether he's a good enough squad player at this level.

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