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So... Walton or Hladky? (n/t) on 17:52 - Sep 14 by Herbivore
He's both made mistakes and hasn't put a foot wrong? Can you run that by me again please?
Hladky has done a decent job as stand in but he's not as.good as Walton and has made a couple of costly errors and a couple of others that were fortunate not to be punished. He's made some good saves as well but he doesn't command his area anywhere near as well as Walton and I don't see why you'd persist with the inferior keeper unless they'd genuinely not put a foot wrong.
I could have worded it better, yeah, he's made a few mistakes, but no more than Walton did last season, in a league lower, against poorer opposition, but generally speaking hasn't put a foot wrong. He's not singularly cost us a game. We'd have lost points against Sunderland, QPR, and Cardiff without his contributions and and what sort of message are we sending should drop him? Form has to count for something. We're second in the league and are playing well. Burgess, Wolfie, Clarke, Davis and Williams have all had poor moments too, it's not all been on Hladky at the back.
For me, Hladky stays in unless his form drops and we start losing games/points due to his errors. He's earned his place, in a higher league, it's his to lose and Walton's to win back. He will improve with more games at this level too.
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So... Walton or Hladky? (n/t) on 10:27 - Sep 15 with 2214 views
I could have worded it better, yeah, he's made a few mistakes, but no more than Walton did last season, in a league lower, against poorer opposition, but generally speaking hasn't put a foot wrong. He's not singularly cost us a game. We'd have lost points against Sunderland, QPR, and Cardiff without his contributions and and what sort of message are we sending should drop him? Form has to count for something. We're second in the league and are playing well. Burgess, Wolfie, Clarke, Davis and Williams have all had poor moments too, it's not all been on Hladky at the back.
For me, Hladky stays in unless his form drops and we start losing games/points due to his errors. He's earned his place, in a higher league, it's his to lose and Walton's to win back. He will improve with more games at this level too.
Walton made about as many mistakes across an entire season as Hladky has in our opening five games. Only a couple of them have been costly (against Leeds) but the idea we'd have lost games without him only stands up if you're assuming we replace him with a Sunday league keeper. He's done his job well enough but for me he still looks one of the weaker links and Walton is the better keeper. If Hladky was tearing it up then fine, he deserves to keep his place, but that's not been the case. He's done well enough but he's not been outstanding and has made some costly errors. And flipping it on its head, I don't think it sends a great message to Walton after he's been reliable for 2 years if he is no longer our first choice because he picked up an unfortunate injury.
Don't know! I remember Walton having sustained periods of form last season where he was below the level that Hladky is performing at now. He was genuinely costing us points. Being a goalkeeper for McKenna in L1 was also much less demanding than it has been in the Championship, such was our dominance of the play and the gulf in quality between the two leagues. The best version of Walton is still our best keeper though. Great problem.
So... Walton or Hladky? (n/t) on 10:27 - Sep 15 by Herbivore
Walton made about as many mistakes across an entire season as Hladky has in our opening five games. Only a couple of them have been costly (against Leeds) but the idea we'd have lost games without him only stands up if you're assuming we replace him with a Sunday league keeper. He's done his job well enough but for me he still looks one of the weaker links and Walton is the better keeper. If Hladky was tearing it up then fine, he deserves to keep his place, but that's not been the case. He's done well enough but he's not been outstanding and has made some costly errors. And flipping it on its head, I don't think it sends a great message to Walton after he's been reliable for 2 years if he is no longer our first choice because he picked up an unfortunate injury.
That's not true. Walton made errors that cost us goals and points in two consecutive games, Port Vale and Charlton. He then went on a run of a few games where every shot conceded went in without a save being made.
Hladky's errors have been similar to those made by Walton here on 1.10
Or this spill on1.30? Very similar to the Leeds goal a few weeks back.
Then there was the moment of madness that cost us two points and the title against Cheltenham.
I strongly disagree that Hladky has not been outstanding. He has made match winning saves against Sunderland, QPR, and Cardiff. Without them we wouldn't even be in the play off places, let alone sitting second.
As for your final point. Geoff Hurst is a legend because Jimmy Greaves picked up an injury. That's football.
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So... Walton or Hladky? (n/t) on 13:51 - Sep 15 by GlasgowBlue
That's not true. Walton made errors that cost us goals and points in two consecutive games, Port Vale and Charlton. He then went on a run of a few games where every shot conceded went in without a save being made.
Hladky's errors have been similar to those made by Walton here on 1.10
Or this spill on1.30? Very similar to the Leeds goal a few weeks back.
Then there was the moment of madness that cost us two points and the title against Cheltenham.
I strongly disagree that Hladky has not been outstanding. He has made match winning saves against Sunderland, QPR, and Cardiff. Without them we wouldn't even be in the play off places, let alone sitting second.
As for your final point. Geoff Hurst is a legend because Jimmy Greaves picked up an injury. That's football.
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Cheltenham the game near the end of last season where he came out, slipped a bit hastily and cost us the game (and probably the league title) - no ones perfect. Shouldn't have been dropped for it though!
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So... Walton or Hladky? (n/t) on 15:47 - Sep 15 with 2084 views
So... Walton or Hladky? (n/t) on 13:51 - Sep 15 by GlasgowBlue
That's not true. Walton made errors that cost us goals and points in two consecutive games, Port Vale and Charlton. He then went on a run of a few games where every shot conceded went in without a save being made.
Hladky's errors have been similar to those made by Walton here on 1.10
Or this spill on1.30? Very similar to the Leeds goal a few weeks back.
Then there was the moment of madness that cost us two points and the title against Cheltenham.
I strongly disagree that Hladky has not been outstanding. He has made match winning saves against Sunderland, QPR, and Cardiff. Without them we wouldn't even be in the play off places, let alone sitting second.
As for your final point. Geoff Hurst is a legend because Jimmy Greaves picked up an injury. That's football.
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Those clips are from two seasons back, you're having to trawl back through 90 games to find the kind of errors Hladky has made in 5 appearances this season. I don't think he's been outstanding, that's a massive stretch.
So... Walton or Hladky? (n/t) on 15:47 - Sep 15 by Herbivore
Those clips are from two seasons back, you're having to trawl back through 90 games to find the kind of errors Hladky has made in 5 appearances this season. I don't think he's been outstanding, that's a massive stretch.
I also struggle to forget how hideously bad he was at the start of his first season here. Genuinely the worst keeper I've seen in an Ipswich shirt (in 30 years) at that stage. His performances have improved hugely this season but I still have a nagging doubt and Walton is clearly the superior keeper.
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So... Walton or Hladky? (n/t) on 20:48 - Sep 15 with 2002 views
So... Walton or Hladky? (n/t) on 13:51 - Sep 15 by GlasgowBlue
That's not true. Walton made errors that cost us goals and points in two consecutive games, Port Vale and Charlton. He then went on a run of a few games where every shot conceded went in without a save being made.
Hladky's errors have been similar to those made by Walton here on 1.10
Or this spill on1.30? Very similar to the Leeds goal a few weeks back.
Then there was the moment of madness that cost us two points and the title against Cheltenham.
I strongly disagree that Hladky has not been outstanding. He has made match winning saves against Sunderland, QPR, and Cardiff. Without them we wouldn't even be in the play off places, let alone sitting second.
As for your final point. Geoff Hurst is a legend because Jimmy Greaves picked up an injury. That's football.
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Agreed GB I think some are being quite miserly with their comments on Hladky's performances thus far! He is our second highest rated player among TWTD matchday scorers (who are you people?!) and he's mine too.
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So... Walton or Hladky? (n/t) on 17:15 - Sep 16 with 1932 views
So... Walton or Hladky? (n/t) on 10:27 - Sep 15 by Herbivore
Walton made about as many mistakes across an entire season as Hladky has in our opening five games. Only a couple of them have been costly (against Leeds) but the idea we'd have lost games without him only stands up if you're assuming we replace him with a Sunday league keeper. He's done his job well enough but for me he still looks one of the weaker links and Walton is the better keeper. If Hladky was tearing it up then fine, he deserves to keep his place, but that's not been the case. He's done well enough but he's not been outstanding and has made some costly errors. And flipping it on its head, I don't think it sends a great message to Walton after he's been reliable for 2 years if he is no longer our first choice because he picked up an unfortunate injury.
Hladky with a clean sheet today.
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So... Walton or Hladky? (n/t) on 17:31 - Sep 16 with 1905 views
It's a really tricky but wonderful problem to have.
I think there is a very good chance that the thing that will help decide it is when Hladky picks up his 5th yellow card,Walton will play (if fit) and should then keep the spot for the rest of the season I'd imagine.
I don’t see how Walton gets fit and walks straight back into the team at this stage. I would have thought he has to wait it out until there is a reason or better time for a change. If Hladky continues as he has then you look afor the games as a marker, 10-15-20 with the expectation that Walton is better and will bring something more to the team, rather than expecting VH to make a mistake.
So... Walton or Hladky? (n/t) on 06:27 - Sep 17 by PioneerBlue
I don’t see how Walton gets fit and walks straight back into the team at this stage. I would have thought he has to wait it out until there is a reason or better time for a change. If Hladky continues as he has then you look afor the games as a marker, 10-15-20 with the expectation that Walton is better and will bring something more to the team, rather than expecting VH to make a mistake.
Walton is better and brings more to the team though so he should start for that reason alone. Play your best players. Providing the recruitment and system befits them, it’s a simple recipe for success.
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So... Walton or Hladky? (n/t) on 08:00 - Sep 17 with 1683 views
So... Walton or Hladky? (n/t) on 07:16 - Sep 17 by ibbleobble
Walton is better and brings more to the team though so he should start for that reason alone. Play your best players. Providing the recruitment and system befits them, it’s a simple recipe for success.
I’d say that Hladky brings more to the team in terms of playing out from the back. Look at his movement and speed of thought in this passage.
Walton is a great keeper. This isn’t anti Walton my any means but Hladky has been an important part of our excellent start to the season. I don’t see McKenna dropping him as soon as Walton is fit.
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So... Walton or Hladky? (n/t) on 07:16 - Sep 17 by ibbleobble
Walton is better and brings more to the team though so he should start for that reason alone. Play your best players. Providing the recruitment and system befits them, it’s a simple recipe for success.
Not changing a winning team is also a simple recipe for success.
So... Walton or Hladky? (n/t) on 19:25 - Sep 14 by ibbleobble
I’m surprised Badger hasn’t been along to shoot down your post yet as he does with most. Walton for me. Hladky has done well and in truth, probably better than most expected but there’s a calmness and assurance in Walton that stands him apart. Hladky has impressed me with some of his shot stopping but it’s stiff competition against Walton. Who knows though? Maybe Walton’s injury may set him back a bit, if so, Hladky is well primed to continue now.
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So... Walton or Hladky? (n/t) on 08:00 - Sep 17 by GlasgowBlue
I’d say that Hladky brings more to the team in terms of playing out from the back. Look at his movement and speed of thought in this passage.
Walton is a great keeper. This isn’t anti Walton my any means but Hladky has been an important part of our excellent start to the season. I don’t see McKenna dropping him as soon as Walton is fit.
That would have been a stunning goal if Freddie hadn’t fluffed his lines, what a move. Didn’t really quite appreciate how good that was at the time.
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