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Best ever Black Ipswich Town 11 15:01 - Oct 17 with 8894 viewsChampionsofInnsbruck

Seen a best black England 11 on socials today and thought about Town's. I for the life of me can only remember Nathan Abbey being our only black keeper, am I wrong? As a best of 11 this doesn't reflect a tactical 11 in anyway!

1. Nathan Abbey
2. Fabian Wilnis
3. Titus Bramble
4. Janoi Donacien
5. Gus Uhlenbeek
6. Kieron Dyer
7. Jermain Wright
8. Jason Dozzell
9. John Walters
10. Darren Bent
11. Chris Kiwomya

Also to be considered Romeo Zondervan, Danny Haynes, Jamie Peters, Dalian Atkinson and David Johnson.

Have I forgotten anyone?
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Best ever Black Ipswich Town 11 on 23:40 - Oct 17 with 1141 viewsLord_Lucan

Best ever Black Ipswich Town 11 on 23:25 - Oct 17 by Superblue95

Genuinely never would have guessed that! Cheers, you learn something new everyday.


Many moons ago I actually posted on here in a jokey way as to what colour he was, because to me he always looked pale orange. I didn’t realise he had any heritage as such, I was just confused. Needless to say I got hammered.

As for the OP. If anyone gets offended by that then they are a silly bollox.

Point of order thought - you have to include our first ever black player just for the hell of it and why not make him captain.

Steve Stacey.

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Best ever Black Ipswich Town 11 on 23:44 - Oct 17 with 1138 viewsKropotkin123

Best ever Black Ipswich Town 11 on 22:36 - Oct 17 by kesblue

Jeez,
What if I said let's do a all white 11 ,


It's less interesting, as it is much bigger pool of people, mainly from the Robson era. But go on, do it. See if it is as shocking and controversial as you think it is. Here's my best ever Caucasian Ipswich Town 11:

R Wright
Burley
Mills
Beattie
Butcher
Walk
Thijssen
Muhren
Gates
Crawford
Mariner

Oh no, controversy.

I only saw Wright play, the rest is on reputation. Sorry to Elsworthy, Phillips, Brazil and anyone else worthy to be in the same breath.

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Best ever Black Ipswich Town 11 on 23:45 - Oct 17 with 1132 viewsKropotkin123

Best ever Black Ipswich Town 11 on 23:19 - Oct 17 by itfctilidie

1. Cooper
2. Mills
3. Beattie
4. Baxter
5. Butcher
6. Muhren
7. Thyssen
8. Wark
9. Mariner
10. Crawford
11. Phillips


That's what happens when I get distracted and come back to a post. Beaten to it

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Do you disagree with Black History Month.....? on 23:46 - Oct 17 with 1130 viewsKropotkin123

Do you disagree with Black History Month.....? on 22:45 - Oct 17 by BlueBadger

....and some of your best friends are black?


Plus The Coup are better!

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Best ever Black Ipswich Town 11 on 07:57 - Oct 18 with 1051 viewstextbackup

Best ever Black Ipswich Town 11 on 22:36 - Oct 17 by kesblue

Jeez,
What if I said let's do a all white 11 ,


Do one then? Literally harms nobody if you do.

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Best ever Black Ipswich Town 11 on 10:22 - Oct 18 with 978 viewsE_I_E_I_E_I_O

Best ever Black Ipswich Town 11 on 07:57 - Oct 18 by textbackup

Do one then? Literally harms nobody if you do.


You’re right it harms no one. However I imagine if the original OP was suggesting we pick a white 11 the response would have been a whole lot different.
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Best ever Black Ipswich Town 11 on 10:46 - Oct 18 with 943 viewsitfcjoe

GK - Michael Crowe*

RB - Janoi Donacien
CB - Titus Bramble
CB - Fabian WIlnis
LB - Steve Stacey

CM - Keiron Dyer
CM - Jermaine Wright
AM - Jason Dozzell

RF - Darren Bent
CF - David Johnson
LF - Chris Kiwomya

Manager - Terry Connor

*He actually appeared in a matchday squad unlike Nathan Abbey so guess usurps him?

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Best ever Black Ipswich Town 11 on 15:16 - Oct 18 with 839 viewsChampionsofInnsbruck

Best ever Black Ipswich Town 11 on 15:50 - Oct 17 by Kropotkin123

Does there have to be a point? At face value, they saw it on social media. Thinking about it innocently/positively, we have black history month, so why can't we be proud of our best black players?


I am a bit disappointed that the usual board bully boys have used this as a reason to jump on me again rather than the subject at hand, we have always had a good record on race and pride in our black players (and community) in Ipswich and to use the subject as a means to have cheap digs at me, accuse me of supporting Norwich and the usual bitterness is not really right.

If they didn't like it they could have ignored it and allowed for those people who wanted to contribute and engage positively to do so without turning the thread into a slag fest aimed at me. I get it, you don't like me, you jump on every minor mistake I make, it's relentless, and it's not fair frankly, but I am not that way inclined to keep biting back, It's a football forum, it's meant to be about opinion, debate but keeping it civil. From certain posters I just get dogs abuse, because I posted it, and not because of the subject which is just sad to me.

Yes, I put two number 4s, I am dyslexic. I can makes mistakes, it is allowed, I am human.

Yes, John Walters is black.

No, I do not support Norwich, which is painfully evident to anyone with a brain. Disagree with me, fine, but stop making lies up.
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Do you disagree with Black History Month.....? on 15:18 - Oct 18 with 837 viewsChampionsofInnsbruck

Do you disagree with Black History Month.....? on 18:06 - Oct 17 by Bloots

....it's designed to celebrate the contributions made by the black community to our society.

I'd suggest that it is a valid cause and worthy of celebration.

This post should be treated just as an extension of that, in the same way that black music is celebrated and admired.

Open your mind.


Thank you.
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Best ever Black Ipswich Town 11 on 15:35 - Oct 18 with 822 viewsSwansea_Blue

Jon Walters mixed race? You learn something new every day (maybe). I always thought he was a caucasian Mexican. ¡Olé!


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Best ever Black Ipswich Town 11 on 15:38 - Oct 18 with 814 viewsFrimleyBlue

Best ever Black Ipswich Town 11 on 15:16 - Oct 18 by ChampionsofInnsbruck

I am a bit disappointed that the usual board bully boys have used this as a reason to jump on me again rather than the subject at hand, we have always had a good record on race and pride in our black players (and community) in Ipswich and to use the subject as a means to have cheap digs at me, accuse me of supporting Norwich and the usual bitterness is not really right.

If they didn't like it they could have ignored it and allowed for those people who wanted to contribute and engage positively to do so without turning the thread into a slag fest aimed at me. I get it, you don't like me, you jump on every minor mistake I make, it's relentless, and it's not fair frankly, but I am not that way inclined to keep biting back, It's a football forum, it's meant to be about opinion, debate but keeping it civil. From certain posters I just get dogs abuse, because I posted it, and not because of the subject which is just sad to me.

Yes, I put two number 4s, I am dyslexic. I can makes mistakes, it is allowed, I am human.

Yes, John Walters is black.

No, I do not support Norwich, which is painfully evident to anyone with a brain. Disagree with me, fine, but stop making lies up.


Don't let them get to ya, you eventually learn to laugh along with them.
The funny ones are those who use the same names on other social media outlets, and they respond to your post differently on them to how they respond on here to the same exact post you make, almost like they need to play up to the board police of twtd to be accepted, it's all rather odd. I even once posted one that a poster made himself elsewhere.. exact same wording.. they responded against it, despite being the one who created it themselves first. lol.

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Best ever Black Ipswich Town 11 on 16:03 - Oct 18 with 789 viewsHankScorpio

Best ever Black Ipswich Town 11 on 15:38 - Oct 18 by FrimleyBlue

Don't let them get to ya, you eventually learn to laugh along with them.
The funny ones are those who use the same names on other social media outlets, and they respond to your post differently on them to how they respond on here to the same exact post you make, almost like they need to play up to the board police of twtd to be accepted, it's all rather odd. I even once posted one that a poster made himself elsewhere.. exact same wording.. they responded against it, despite being the one who created it themselves first. lol.



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Best ever Black Ipswich Town 11 on 16:05 - Oct 18 with 786 viewsrickw

Why has nobody mentioned Finidi yet!

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Best ever Black Ipswich Town 11 on 16:08 - Oct 18 with 779 viewsKropotkin123

Best ever Black Ipswich Town 11 on 15:16 - Oct 18 by ChampionsofInnsbruck

I am a bit disappointed that the usual board bully boys have used this as a reason to jump on me again rather than the subject at hand, we have always had a good record on race and pride in our black players (and community) in Ipswich and to use the subject as a means to have cheap digs at me, accuse me of supporting Norwich and the usual bitterness is not really right.

If they didn't like it they could have ignored it and allowed for those people who wanted to contribute and engage positively to do so without turning the thread into a slag fest aimed at me. I get it, you don't like me, you jump on every minor mistake I make, it's relentless, and it's not fair frankly, but I am not that way inclined to keep biting back, It's a football forum, it's meant to be about opinion, debate but keeping it civil. From certain posters I just get dogs abuse, because I posted it, and not because of the subject which is just sad to me.

Yes, I put two number 4s, I am dyslexic. I can makes mistakes, it is allowed, I am human.

Yes, John Walters is black.

No, I do not support Norwich, which is painfully evident to anyone with a brain. Disagree with me, fine, but stop making lies up.


It's not the "usual" people. It is a range of people that hold opinions on both the left and right of politics.

I'm dyslexic too. Aged 15 I was bottom set of English with 3 teachers in a class of 20 (and this was a state school!). Forgive me for no feeling sorry for you. You'll enjoy life more if you learn to laugh at your own mistakes. It's guaranteed that you will continue to make them.

Where did I say anything about Norwich in any of my replies? Also, you made your own bed on that one.
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Best ever Black Ipswich Town 11 on 16:12 - Oct 18 with 770 viewsKropotkin123

Best ever Black Ipswich Town 11 on 16:05 - Oct 18 by rickw

Why has nobody mentioned Finidi yet!


Can't believe I forgot him. He'd be ahead of Edwards in my team. Someone use this as an excuse to find and post that Sunderland goal!
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Best ever Black Ipswich Town 11 on 16:14 - Oct 18 with 759 viewsFrimleyBlue

Best ever Black Ipswich Town 11 on 16:12 - Oct 18 by Kropotkin123

Can't believe I forgot him. He'd be ahead of Edwards in my team. Someone use this as an excuse to find and post that Sunderland goal!
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