| So, £3m and £15k pw for a striker…. 10:57 - Dec 17 with 26755 views | Bloots |
….in January.
Who are we thinking?
Any realistic suggestions? |  |
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| That’s the budget and target…. on 08:10 - Dec 18 with 2661 views | StokieBlue |
| That’s the budget and target…. on 11:28 - Dec 17 by CanadianBlue |
Hirst was never supposed to it himself though, his role is to hold up the ball, move the defence and grab on to scraps.
Hirst is being seen as ineffective because Chaplin's form has dropped and we've become more reliant on our wingers (mainly Broady and Burns) to cut in and shoot.
I'd rather we drop 3m on a new AMC, to challenge Chaplin, or a new MC, to free Taylor to be played as an AMC given he's preferred over Evans and Ball. |
I don't think anyone thinks Hirst is ineffective.
He's been absolutely superb.
I'm really not sure where you've got that from.
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| That’s the budget and target…. on 08:18 - Dec 18 with 2603 views | GlasgowBlue |
| That’s the budget and target…. on 08:10 - Dec 18 by StokieBlue |
I don't think anyone thinks Hirst is ineffective.
He's been absolutely superb.
I'm really not sure where you've got that from.
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6 goals and 6 assists from Hirst has him comfortably on course for double figures on both. Which is a fantastic return for a striker playing in our system which very much puts the goal scoring emphasis on our two number tens. |  |
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| So, £3m and £15k pw for a striker…. on 08:18 - Dec 18 with 2607 views | Metal_Hacker |
| So, £3m and £15k pw for a striker…. on 08:09 - Dec 18 by Herbivore |
We couldn't get it done in the summer, the chances of getting it done now with the season he and Saints are having are pretty remote. |
Totally agree and would cost a hell of a lot more obviously
Oh to be a fly on the wall in that boardroom when they’re discussing targets ! |  |
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| So, £3m and £15k pw for a striker…. on 08:57 - Dec 18 with 2545 views | itfcjoe |
Sounds about what Colby Bishop would cost and we liked him in the summer |  |
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| So, £3m and £15k pw for a striker…. on 08:58 - Dec 18 with 2545 views | Kieran_Knows |
| So, £3m and £15k pw for a striker…. on 08:57 - Dec 18 by itfcjoe |
Sounds about what Colby Bishop would cost and we liked him in the summer |
Yup, was the first player that sprung to mind if that is the budget. |  |
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| So, £3m and £15k pw for a striker…. on 09:16 - Dec 18 with 2481 views | giant_stow |
Haven't read the thread so apologies if someone's already made this point, but...
It seems to me that now you're up and doing well, it'll be pretty tricky to find a good striker for £3m. Barring finding a hidden gem, much easier to get a good striker for semi-sensible money in League 1 - think it'll take much bigger money now. Even £10m might not be enough.
Could be wrong, as I know jack. |  |
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| So, £3m and £15k pw for a striker…. on 09:25 - Dec 18 with 2449 views | tractorboy1978 |
| So, £3m and £15k pw for a striker…. on 09:16 - Dec 18 by giant_stow |
Haven't read the thread so apologies if someone's already made this point, but...
It seems to me that now you're up and doing well, it'll be pretty tricky to find a good striker for £3m. Barring finding a hidden gem, much easier to get a good striker for semi-sensible money in League 1 - think it'll take much bigger money now. Even £10m might not be enough.
Could be wrong, as I know jack. |
Assuming the figures are correct, £3m and £15k a week doesn't get you anyone proven at Championship level. I'd be surprised if Hirst is on less than that. Maybe we have someone from abroad lined up... |  | | |
| So, £3m and £15k pw for a striker…. on 09:30 - Dec 18 with 2440 views | DanTheMan |
| So, £3m and £15k pw for a striker…. on 08:58 - Dec 18 by Kieran_Knows |
Yup, was the first player that sprung to mind if that is the budget. |
Whilst I could see him wanting to come, I imagine Pompey would be desperate not to sell given the position they are in. |  |
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| So, £3m and £15k pw for a striker…. on 10:04 - Dec 18 with 2353 views | itfcjoe |
| So, £3m and £15k pw for a striker…. on 09:30 - Dec 18 by DanTheMan |
Whilst I could see him wanting to come, I imagine Pompey would be desperate not to sell given the position they are in. |
Do you send Freddie the other way to soften the blow? | |
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| So, £3m and £15k pw for a striker…. on 10:12 - Dec 18 with 2318 views | Westcountryblue |
If we are shopping for the likes of Colby Bishop, then deary me...we won't have learned from the mistakes of 2014/2015 and 2003/2004 to a lesser extent.
We need to really go for it this window and get some serious quality through the door for McKenna to work with. We cannot let him down or this opportunity pass.
The squad has performed admirably thus far, but we are in need to reinforcements to lighten the load on the likes of Hirst, Chaplin, Morsy and Luongo, who simply aren't droppable currently. [Post edited 18 Dec 2023 10:13]
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| So, £3m and £15k pw for a striker…. on 10:20 - Dec 18 with 2277 views | StokieBlue |
| So, £3m and £15k pw for a striker…. on 10:12 - Dec 18 by Westcountryblue |
If we are shopping for the likes of Colby Bishop, then deary me...we won't have learned from the mistakes of 2014/2015 and 2003/2004 to a lesser extent.
We need to really go for it this window and get some serious quality through the door for McKenna to work with. We cannot let him down or this opportunity pass.
The squad has performed admirably thus far, but we are in need to reinforcements to lighten the load on the likes of Hirst, Chaplin, Morsy and Luongo, who simply aren't droppable currently. [Post edited 18 Dec 2023 10:13]
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Who would you suggest for the discussed budget?
You seem to want multiple players of that kind of value as well.
Needs to be some realism here, it seems unlikely that we will be throwing FFP rules out of the window.
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| So, £3m and £15k pw for a striker…. on 10:30 - Dec 18 with 2221 views | Westcountryblue |
| So, £3m and £15k pw for a striker…. on 10:20 - Dec 18 by StokieBlue |
Who would you suggest for the discussed budget?
You seem to want multiple players of that kind of value as well.
Needs to be some realism here, it seems unlikely that we will be throwing FFP rules out of the window.
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Fair point about FFP, however there is a strong possibility that our commercial revenue is likely to be significantly higher than the likes of Hull and Stoke, who's net transfer spend is much greater than ours. Moreover, we are inevitably going to recieve bids for Davis in the summer and other saleable assets. If promoted, we will be able to reject these, however if not, we can balance the books accordingly.
I think we have to be very careful to bring the right characters in, on wages that will not upset the harmony of the squad. However, we really need to back McKenna this window and get quality though the door that will push us over the line. The likes of Colby Bishop just won't do that.
If it takes 10-15m to bring in 3-4 quality players, then so be it. That's part of the terrority of being a big Championship club. [Post edited 18 Dec 2023 10:42]
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| So, £3m and £15k pw for a striker…. on 10:53 - Dec 18 with 2150 views | DanTheMan |
| So, £3m and £15k pw for a striker…. on 10:04 - Dec 18 by itfcjoe |
Do you send Freddie the other way to soften the blow? |
A nice idea actually, proven goal scorer. Would save us a squad space too. | |
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| So, £3m and £15k pw for a striker…. on 11:26 - Dec 18 with 2062 views | crouchendyachtclub |
| So, £3m and £15k pw for a striker…. on 02:06 - Dec 18 by Westcountryblue |
As previously mentioned in the thread, i think we'll probably end up spending a little more than that. Bottom line is, Gamechanger MUST back McKenna, as the likes of Hirst, Morsy, Luongo and Chaplin are undroppable and desperately need some support. I can see us spending upwards of 15m on 3-4 new players. I'd like to see us go for....
A striker - another all rounder who can provide serious competition to Hirst (won't be cheap !)
A Morsy successor/back up - ideally someone we can develop, but i also wouldn'y mind someone with experience and pedigree like Yokuşlu from West Brom.
Another 10 - an injury to Broadhead and/or Chaplin leaves us in uncertain territory. We need someone who can push them both. I'd like to see us test Plymouth's resolve with a 5-6m bid for Whittaker, or failing that Szmodics. Money talks and i'm sure we could prize away Whittaker.
Wouldn't be against the idea of getting a young full back on loan to cover Davis also.
Don't think we need another CB. Tuanzebe will be a key player for us in the second half of the season, and we are well stocked with adequate back up. |
Surely that doesn't fit inside FFP though?
I can't remember the exact rules but I had the impression when I looked at it in the summer that we had about £3-£4m headroom. If the FFP year runs to June then getting promoted doesn't magically get you inside the maximum losses, you still need to balance the books. Spending £15m would require a guaranteed income, possibly before the transfer window opens.
Happy to be corrected here but we need to be mindful that this is an accounting issue rather than a cash one. Until we sell someone for £15-£20m we are just not going to have that money to spend. | | | |
| So, £3m and £15k pw for a striker…. on 11:29 - Dec 18 with 2045 views | textbackup |
| So, £3m and £15k pw for a striker…. on 08:58 - Dec 18 by Kieran_Knows |
Yup, was the first player that sprung to mind if that is the budget. |
Is he ready to make the step up, and then again (possibly) to the prem?
Our Jan signings 2023 were very much championship ready… wonder if that’s the aim this time round.
Either way, it’s exciting isn’t it |  |
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| So, £3m and £15k pw for a striker…. on 11:30 - Dec 18 with 2039 views | franz_tyson |
| So, £3m and £15k pw for a striker…. on 10:04 - Dec 18 by itfcjoe |
Do you send Freddie the other way to soften the blow? |
"What if" dilemma time: Send Freddie and a young gem ( Humphreys/ Baggott?) the other way to get the deal done? Hunphreys and Baggott likely to have higher ceilings than Bishop.... but can't see them having an impact in the last twenty games of this season and they're way down pecking order.
Can't see Pompey letting Bishop go anyway . but would we go short-termist and sell a young gem to give us that extra push to the PL? | | | |
| So, £3m and £15k pw for a striker…. on 11:31 - Dec 18 with 2033 views | StokieBlue |
| So, £3m and £15k pw for a striker…. on 11:30 - Dec 18 by franz_tyson |
"What if" dilemma time: Send Freddie and a young gem ( Humphreys/ Baggott?) the other way to get the deal done? Hunphreys and Baggott likely to have higher ceilings than Bishop.... but can't see them having an impact in the last twenty games of this season and they're way down pecking order.
Can't see Pompey letting Bishop go anyway . but would we go short-termist and sell a young gem to give us that extra push to the PL? |
Think it would be madness to let them have Baggott - he really looks like he could push on.
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| So, £3m and £15k pw for a striker…. on 11:31 - Dec 18 with 2029 views | Kieran_Knows |
| So, £3m and £15k pw for a striker…. on 11:29 - Dec 18 by textbackup |
Is he ready to make the step up, and then again (possibly) to the prem?
Our Jan signings 2023 were very much championship ready… wonder if that’s the aim this time round.
Either way, it’s exciting isn’t it |
All I know was he was someone we targeted in the summer (2 bids), but were quoted silly money from Portsmouth at the time. Must've felt like he could make the step up, but obviously things have gone a lot better than planned and the quality of our targets might have got better!
But you're not wrong, just hope we can have a good start to the window like this January and let everyone else faff around come the end of the month! | |
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| So, £3m and £15k pw for a striker…. on 11:36 - Dec 18 with 2013 views | textbackup |
| So, £3m and £15k pw for a striker…. on 11:31 - Dec 18 by Kieran_Knows |
All I know was he was someone we targeted in the summer (2 bids), but were quoted silly money from Portsmouth at the time. Must've felt like he could make the step up, but obviously things have gone a lot better than planned and the quality of our targets might have got better!
But you're not wrong, just hope we can have a good start to the window like this January and let everyone else faff around come the end of the month! |
All I keep thinking is we’ve taken 10 points for 4 games in our hardest (on paper) month in the season so far…
Any extra help we get in come Jan is just going to be a massive boost to an already great feeling | |
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| So, £3m and £15k pw for a striker…. on 11:57 - Dec 18 with 1921 views | ipswichtillidie |
| So, £3m and £15k pw for a striker…. on 11:08 - Dec 17 by tractorboy1978 |
Chelsea paid £5m for him. |
Chelsea will also need to balance the books soon as well… |  |
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| So, £3m and £15k pw for a striker…. on 12:09 - Dec 18 with 1842 views | Herbivore |
| So, £3m and £15k pw for a striker…. on 11:30 - Dec 18 by franz_tyson |
"What if" dilemma time: Send Freddie and a young gem ( Humphreys/ Baggott?) the other way to get the deal done? Hunphreys and Baggott likely to have higher ceilings than Bishop.... but can't see them having an impact in the last twenty games of this season and they're way down pecking order.
Can't see Pompey letting Bishop go anyway . but would we go short-termist and sell a young gem to give us that extra push to the PL? |
Letting them have Humphreys or Baggott for Bishop would be absolutely mental. |  |
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| So, £3m and £15k pw for a striker…. on 12:32 - Dec 18 with 1772 views | WeWereZombies |
| So, £3m and £15k pw for a striker…. on 11:57 - Dec 18 by ipswichtillidie |
Chelsea will also need to balance the books soon as well… |
True, especially as their prospects of decent European football in 2024/25 are looking more remote with every weekend that passes. |  |
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| So, £3m and £15k pw for a striker…. on 14:59 - Dec 18 with 1639 views | bluesbrothers |
| So, £3m and £15k pw for a striker…. on 11:31 - Dec 18 by Kieran_Knows |
All I know was he was someone we targeted in the summer (2 bids), but were quoted silly money from Portsmouth at the time. Must've felt like he could make the step up, but obviously things have gone a lot better than planned and the quality of our targets might have got better!
But you're not wrong, just hope we can have a good start to the window like this January and let everyone else faff around come the end of the month! |
Our sights are/will be higher than him now.
Have heard a couple of bits about a chap Brentford have been linked with | | | |
| So, £3m and £15k pw for a striker…. on 14:59 - Dec 18 with 1637 views | tractorboy1978 |
| So, £3m and £15k pw for a striker…. on 14:59 - Dec 18 by bluesbrothers |
Our sights are/will be higher than him now.
Have heard a couple of bits about a chap Brentford have been linked with |
Vazquez? | | | |
| So, £3m and £15k pw for a striker…. on 15:11 - Dec 18 with 1584 views | bluesbrothers |
| So, £3m and £15k pw for a striker…. on 14:59 - Dec 18 by tractorboy1978 |
Vazquez? |
Yeh, but far more on the speculation end of the spectrum rather than solid info was my impression | | | |
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