Presser 14:11 - Feb 9 with 4811 views | PhilTWTD | No new injuries, just those we were already aware of. Had apology from officials from first two goals last week. | | | | |
Presser on 14:12 - Feb 9 with 3040 views | Swansea_Blue | Thanks Phil. Who did it, what with Kieran obviously being at Palace reading through his new contract? | |
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Presser on 14:13 - Feb 9 with 3007 views | PhilTWTD | Asked about Palace betting, full focus on Town. Doesn't pay attention to the speculation. | | | |
Presser on 14:14 - Feb 9 with 2982 views | portmanking | WTF does an apology do, though? Tens, if not hundreds, of millions on the line, and we're supposed to just suck it up and say, 'I appreciate your honesty' and move on 3 points worse off? The Championship should have VAR for offsides at the very least - I know there's an automated offside tech being trialled currently elsewhere. | | | |
Presser on 14:15 - Feb 9 with 2954 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
Presser on 14:13 - Feb 9 by PhilTWTD | Asked about Palace betting, full focus on Town. Doesn't pay attention to the speculation. |
Maybe Ivan Toney has just had a busy day… | | | |
Presser on 14:16 - Feb 9 with 2923 views | RobTheMonk | Gees, you know the officials have had a bad day when they apologise twice! | | | |
Presser on 14:16 - Feb 9 with 2918 views | SitfcB | Hope Graham Scott is struck off, c unit. | |
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Presser on 14:16 - Feb 9 with 2918 views | Aviator |
Presser on 14:13 - Feb 9 by PhilTWTD | Asked about Palace betting, full focus on Town. Doesn't pay attention to the speculation. |
So not a denial, then? | | | |
Presser on 14:17 - Feb 9 with 2910 views | Swansea_Blue | Also, there should be more than apologies. They need to be held to account, just as managers, players and clubs are. They'd be very quick to fine the clubs £10s of thousands if there were player disturbances or crowd trouble, so let's have them sending some compensation the other way when they mess up. It might focus their minds on trying to get decisions correct. I've seen these retrospective apologies a fair few times this season and don't think it goes any where near far enough. Even if compo isn't involved, they should at least be transparent about what went wrong and outline how they plan to address the issue to reduce the chance of it happening again. | |
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Presser on 14:22 - Feb 9 with 2774 views | portmanking |
Presser on 14:17 - Feb 9 by Swansea_Blue | Also, there should be more than apologies. They need to be held to account, just as managers, players and clubs are. They'd be very quick to fine the clubs £10s of thousands if there were player disturbances or crowd trouble, so let's have them sending some compensation the other way when they mess up. It might focus their minds on trying to get decisions correct. I've seen these retrospective apologies a fair few times this season and don't think it goes any where near far enough. Even if compo isn't involved, they should at least be transparent about what went wrong and outline how they plan to address the issue to reduce the chance of it happening again. |
Even at Championship level, we've got a league where there's tens of millions in money sloshing around, yet we're supposed to just accept clear and obvious errors. It's not good enough by a long way. The technology is there and the EFL have the money in their own kitty to ensure all Championship grounds at least had offside technology. I can slightly accept referee decisions on the first goal, as the foul on Morsy is subjective - even though it was very clear - but offside decisions are simply black and white. There's no need for teams to have to suffer for them. | | | |
Presser on 14:23 - Feb 9 with 2742 views | Swansea_Blue |
Presser on 14:16 - Feb 9 by SitfcB | Hope Graham Scott is struck off, c unit. |
Isn't he in the PL Select Group of referees too? 🥴 That's twice this season we've had him isn't it? And he's fked up both times. Rotherham away where he missed an obvious pen appeal and Saturday's debacle. | |
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Presser on 14:25 - Feb 9 with 2690 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
Presser on 14:16 - Feb 9 by Aviator | So not a denial, then? |
What's he doing giving an Ipswich press conference if he's "in advanced talks with Palace"? | |
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Presser on 14:26 - Feb 9 with 2677 views | Swansea_Blue |
Presser on 14:22 - Feb 9 by portmanking | Even at Championship level, we've got a league where there's tens of millions in money sloshing around, yet we're supposed to just accept clear and obvious errors. It's not good enough by a long way. The technology is there and the EFL have the money in their own kitty to ensure all Championship grounds at least had offside technology. I can slightly accept referee decisions on the first goal, as the foul on Morsy is subjective - even though it was very clear - but offside decisions are simply black and white. There's no need for teams to have to suffer for them. |
Absolutely. When you're at the top end, there's something like £170M at risk if you miss out on promotion by only 1 or 2 points, isn't there. Of course, the other way to make bad decisions far less consequential is to tackle the obscene financial inequality in the game. But that's not going to happen - far too much greed involved. | |
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Presser on 14:29 - Feb 9 with 2604 views | berkstractorboy |
Presser on 14:22 - Feb 9 by portmanking | Even at Championship level, we've got a league where there's tens of millions in money sloshing around, yet we're supposed to just accept clear and obvious errors. It's not good enough by a long way. The technology is there and the EFL have the money in their own kitty to ensure all Championship grounds at least had offside technology. I can slightly accept referee decisions on the first goal, as the foul on Morsy is subjective - even though it was very clear - but offside decisions are simply black and white. There's no need for teams to have to suffer for them. |
There are close offside calls like the 1st Rowe goal where you can have sympathy with the lino trying to make a call as its marginal. The offside last Sat wasn't close, very clear gap with the attacker having daylight between him and the Ipswich defender. Those can't be mistakes that you just shrug off. | | | |
Presser on 14:31 - Feb 9 with 2538 views | FrimleyBlue |
Presser on 14:25 - Feb 9 by The_Flashing_Smile | What's he doing giving an Ipswich press conference if he's "in advanced talks with Palace"? |
Quite easily be joining them end of season couldn't he be? | |
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Presser on 14:32 - Feb 9 with 2546 views | itfcjoe |
Presser on 14:23 - Feb 9 by Swansea_Blue | Isn't he in the PL Select Group of referees too? 🥴 That's twice this season we've had him isn't it? And he's fked up both times. Rotherham away where he missed an obvious pen appeal and Saturday's debacle. |
Select group refs forget to ref the game and just allow on VAR to get them out of any major errors | |
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Presser on 14:33 - Feb 9 with 2510 views | portmanking |
Presser on 14:32 - Feb 9 by itfcjoe | Select group refs forget to ref the game and just allow on VAR to get them out of any major errors |
This is the problem with them dropping down into games in the EFL. The Select Group Refs have essentially been de-skilled and are arguably worse at their job than those reffing consistently at Champ level. | | | |
Presser on 14:37 - Feb 9 with 2382 views | tractorboy1978 |
Presser on 14:33 - Feb 9 by portmanking | This is the problem with them dropping down into games in the EFL. The Select Group Refs have essentially been de-skilled and are arguably worse at their job than those reffing consistently at Champ level. |
We've got another one tomorrow too. David Coote. Presumably he made a big mistake last weekend. | | | |
Presser on 14:38 - Feb 9 with 2372 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
Presser on 14:31 - Feb 9 by FrimleyBlue | Quite easily be joining them end of season couldn't he be? |
No. It's just nonsense Frimmers. How would a manager motivate players when they all know he's off? Why would Gamechanger allow someone to manage all the millions involved with this club when they know his heart and head are elsewhere? | |
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Presser on 14:39 - Feb 9 with 2367 views | Swansea_Blue |
Presser on 14:31 - Feb 9 by FrimleyBlue | Quite easily be joining them end of season couldn't he be? |
He could. Although: (a) I'm not sure why he'd make that decision now given the position we're in, as we have a higher ceiling than palace IF we get into the PL, (b) he seems fully invested into the 'project' here and things are going well, and (c) his ceiling is potentially a lot higher than Palace (no disrespect to them, but if he can have a successful season in the PL I'd expect the top 6-8 to be sniffing around). Palace would be guaranteed PL experience now of course, but will it still be come the end of the season? Probably, but they're not too far above the drop zone. | |
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Presser on 14:40 - Feb 9 with 2351 views | mutters |
Presser on 14:22 - Feb 9 by portmanking | Even at Championship level, we've got a league where there's tens of millions in money sloshing around, yet we're supposed to just accept clear and obvious errors. It's not good enough by a long way. The technology is there and the EFL have the money in their own kitty to ensure all Championship grounds at least had offside technology. I can slightly accept referee decisions on the first goal, as the foul on Morsy is subjective - even though it was very clear - but offside decisions are simply black and white. There's no need for teams to have to suffer for them. |
Its an interesting point. The technology and money are there, but I am not sure the public would want the interruption to the game. If you look at the NFL, there are 7 umpires/ referees on the pitch and a team of officials in the stadium and @ HQ in New York to mitigate such issues. They rarely get it wrong, and the times they do are often down to personal interpretation rather than flat-out getting it wrong. The game is very stop start in its nature. Would football fans be happy to wait a couple of minutes each time one of these decisions is referred for further analysis? All scoring incidents should be reviewed by default but again this comes at the cost of slowly down a free-flowing game. | |
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Presser on 14:40 - Feb 9 with 2344 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
Presser on 14:16 - Feb 9 by Aviator | So not a denial, then? |
I'm not sure being the best Frimmers tribute act since Chris_Makin is a good look. [Post edited 9 Feb 14:41]
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Presser on 14:45 - Feb 9 with 2256 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
Presser on 14:37 - Feb 9 by tractorboy1978 | We've got another one tomorrow too. David Coote. Presumably he made a big mistake last weekend. |
His last game was Spurs v Brentford on Jan 31st. Lost control of the game in the first half if I remember rightly. | |
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Presser on 14:46 - Feb 9 with 2228 views | FrimleyBlue |
Presser on 14:40 - Feb 9 by Cheltenham_Blue | I'm not sure being the best Frimmers tribute act since Chris_Makin is a good look. [Post edited 9 Feb 14:41]
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Presser on 14:48 - Feb 9 with 2200 views | portmanking |
Presser on 14:40 - Feb 9 by mutters | Its an interesting point. The technology and money are there, but I am not sure the public would want the interruption to the game. If you look at the NFL, there are 7 umpires/ referees on the pitch and a team of officials in the stadium and @ HQ in New York to mitigate such issues. They rarely get it wrong, and the times they do are often down to personal interpretation rather than flat-out getting it wrong. The game is very stop start in its nature. Would football fans be happy to wait a couple of minutes each time one of these decisions is referred for further analysis? All scoring incidents should be reviewed by default but again this comes at the cost of slowly down a free-flowing game. |
What interruption would be required for offsides? It's as black and white as the goal line technology that Championship refs already have at their disposal. | | | |
Presser on 14:48 - Feb 9 with 2192 views | HarleydavidsonBlue | Thanks for the info Phil. I guess the officials think that an apology puts it all right !! | | | |
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