| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen 09:27 - May 21 with 47756 views | itfcjoe |
Rob Edwards seems to be the only name mentioned yet so presume there is something in that
If we want the most continuity I would be doing what it takes to get Michael Carrick out of Boro, he signed a new deal a week or so back and very bought into the project there but I really like him too. Very tough deal to do I imagine.
I think the Pl may be a step too far, but had we stayed down I'd have been all over Danny Rohl, he strikes me as the most McKenna like as a career coach, great experience and done a fantastic job at Sheff Weds, really impressive and seems to 'get it' judging by their fan base.
Also, another name not seen mentioned much is Steve Cooper, did really well in the mad house that is Nottingham Forest, great developer of young players and good PL experience.
I've seen a few say Graham Potter but he feels unrealistic when you see the jobs linked with, is still being paid an exorbitant amount by Chelsea so not sure we'd have the clout to attract him |  |
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| You do know that Brighton..... on 13:28 - May 21 with 2218 views | N2_Blue |
| You do know that Brighton..... on 13:20 - May 21 by Bloots |
....got to the last 16 of the Europa League this season don't you?
One of the main reasons cited that they didn't push on this year was due to the additional games in Europe.
They will be wanting to push on next season to get back into Europe.
They are miles ahead of us at the moment, and as I have said previously KM is not an Ipswich supporter, he's a professional football manager that will look at things with a far more balanced perspective than we will. |
Yes i do.
Fulham, Wolves have all done Europe and struggled to kick on. I don't see Brighton being a club that will manage to do what they haven't.
Why do you think De Zerbi left? |  |
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| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:28 - May 21 with 2225 views | baxterbasics |
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| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:29 - May 21 with 2199 views | Guthrum |
| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:16 - May 21 by portmanking |
But Phil, he's 38! Why does he NEED to do that right now? Any sane owner would still be smitten with him if, heaven forbid, we go down next season. He's still going to be attractive. Yet by sticking with us next season, he has a chance to immortalise himself with us, carry on working with a squad that will already run through brick walls for him and continue building an elite infrastructure here in his mould.
With Brighton, he could take them from 11th to what... 8th at best? Is that really going to move the dial for a United or Chelsea? Hell, if Chelsea have him on their hit-list already without even managing a game in the Prem, why would relegation be an issue?! |
Maybe he wants to do 20+ years at ManU and exceed even Ferguson's record? |  |
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| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:30 - May 21 with 2184 views | portmanking |
| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:29 - May 21 by Guthrum |
Maybe he wants to do 20+ years at ManU and exceed even Ferguson's record? |
If United were to put their faith in him right now, I'd accept that. You'd have to. A chance to build a dynasty at the club he's supported since a boy.
A couple of years at Brighton won't change how United's hierarchy feel about him though. |  | | |
| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:31 - May 21 with 2172 views | NthQldITFC |
| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:28 - May 21 by baxterbasics |
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Who is this Sam C cat? (I can't get on Twitter at the moment as I refuse to abide by it's desire to track my ass.) |  |
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| You do know that Brighton..... on 13:32 - May 21 with 2166 views | GlasgowBlue |
| You do know that Brighton..... on 13:28 - May 21 by N2_Blue |
Yes i do.
Fulham, Wolves have all done Europe and struggled to kick on. I don't see Brighton being a club that will manage to do what they haven't.
Why do you think De Zerbi left? |
He also has to weigh up whether Erik ten Hag has another season left in hm at United. If he does then Keiran would have a year's experience in the Premier League and be perfectly positioned to get the job there.
He'd look too much like Steve Bruce if he went to Brighton then jumped to United a year later. |  |
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| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:33 - May 21 with 2151 views | pointofblue |
| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:31 - May 21 by NthQldITFC |
Who is this Sam C cat? (I can't get on Twitter at the moment as I refuse to abide by it's desire to track my ass.) |
Manchester United journalist by the looks of it. Interesting if true, as it makes it clear to McKenna that he isn’t Brighton’s first choice. | |
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| You do know that Brighton..... on 13:33 - May 21 with 2149 views | glasso |
| You do know that Brighton..... on 13:32 - May 21 by GlasgowBlue |
He also has to weigh up whether Erik ten Hag has another season left in hm at United. If he does then Keiran would have a year's experience in the Premier League and be perfectly positioned to get the job there.
He'd look too much like Steve Bruce if he went to Brighton then jumped to United a year later. |
That'd really put his nose out of joint. | | | |
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| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:34 - May 21 with 2138 views | PhilTWTD |
| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:16 - May 21 by portmanking |
But Phil, he's 38! Why does he NEED to do that right now? Any sane owner would still be smitten with him if, heaven forbid, we go down next season. He's still going to be attractive. Yet by sticking with us next season, he has a chance to immortalise himself with us, carry on working with a squad that will already run through brick walls for him and continue building an elite infrastructure here in his mould.
With Brighton, he could take them from 11th to what... 8th at best? Is that really going to move the dial for a United or Chelsea? Hell, if Chelsea have him on their hit-list already without even managing a game in the Prem, why would relegation be an issue?! |
As Mick McCarthy used to put it, you go from god to dog very quickly in football management. Opportunities which come up now might not in the future. Remember, George Burley went from Manager of the Year to being sacked with Town floundering in the second tier in less than 18 months. |  | | |
| You do know that Brighton..... on 13:35 - May 21 with 2126 views | N2_Blue |
| You do know that Brighton..... on 13:32 - May 21 by GlasgowBlue |
He also has to weigh up whether Erik ten Hag has another season left in hm at United. If he does then Keiran would have a year's experience in the Premier League and be perfectly positioned to get the job there.
He'd look too much like Steve Bruce if he went to Brighton then jumped to United a year later. |
If United stick with ETH they are a lost cause as a club....so i geunitely hope they do.
Probably the worst mangerial performance there has been in the Premiership era. The analysis Sky do of his in game management is eye opening. ETH the fraud. | |
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| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:37 - May 21 with 2088 views | StokieBlue |
| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:26 - May 21 by RedX |
It would be a selfish move. |
That's unbelievably harsh.
Quite a few on this thread need to step back a bit and take another look at what they are posting.
We all want him to stay but some of the stuff being posted is pretty ridiculous. We can only assume these posters would never move on from their current jobs if what they perceived as a better offer arises.
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| He's a "Football News Aggregator"... on 13:38 - May 21 with 2078 views | Bloots |
| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:31 - May 21 by NthQldITFC |
Who is this Sam C cat? (I can't get on Twitter at the moment as I refuse to abide by it's desire to track my ass.) |
....so basically he just retweets/reports gossip that he reads on the internet. |  |
| "He's been a really positive influence on my life, I think he's a great man" - TWTD User (May 2025) |
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| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:38 - May 21 with 2071 views | NthQldITFC |
| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:33 - May 21 by pointofblue |
Manchester United journalist by the looks of it. Interesting if true, as it makes it clear to McKenna that he isn’t Brighton’s first choice. |
Isn't that more saying that Brighton isn't McKenna's first choice? | |
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| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:39 - May 21 with 2068 views | N2_Blue |
| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:34 - May 21 by PhilTWTD |
As Mick McCarthy used to put it, you go from god to dog very quickly in football management. Opportunities which come up now might not in the future. Remember, George Burley went from Manager of the Year to being sacked with Town floundering in the second tier in less than 18 months. |
I think Mckenna is a different beast. He backs himself. I think he'll genuinely think he can keep us up net year and that's why he'll stay.
If he does leave for Brighton, i think it will be as much as indication that even he doesn't believe he could keep Town in the Premier League which would be a real shame and show that maybe were not prepared to make as good fist of it as the fans believe. But i don't thiink that is going to be the case. He'll end up staying because he believes he is the man that can do it. | |
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| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:40 - May 21 with 2034 views | pointofblue |
| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:37 - May 21 by StokieBlue |
That's unbelievably harsh.
Quite a few on this thread need to step back a bit and take another look at what they are posting.
We all want him to stay but some of the stuff being posted is pretty ridiculous. We can only assume these posters would never move on from their current jobs if what they perceived as a better offer arises.
SB. |
Agreed. But football is a, albeit unfairly, different entity to usual jobs due to the passion and emotion of fans. It’s the same as players - the expectation is for them to remain loyal to a club, especially if they’ve come through the ranks, but if they lose form then fans don’t hesitate to call for them to be dropped or released/sold. | |
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| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:40 - May 21 with 2030 views | portmanking |
| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:39 - May 21 by N2_Blue |
I think Mckenna is a different beast. He backs himself. I think he'll genuinely think he can keep us up net year and that's why he'll stay.
If he does leave for Brighton, i think it will be as much as indication that even he doesn't believe he could keep Town in the Premier League which would be a real shame and show that maybe were not prepared to make as good fist of it as the fans believe. But i don't thiink that is going to be the case. He'll end up staying because he believes he is the man that can do it. |
100%. McKenna is a different beast to McCarthy and Burley. Anyone can see that.
Someone with his level of football IQ and man management skills won't just fall off the radar of PL sporting directors in 6-12 months' time. | | | |
| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:41 - May 21 with 2010 views | NedPlimpton |
| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:39 - May 21 by N2_Blue |
I think Mckenna is a different beast. He backs himself. I think he'll genuinely think he can keep us up net year and that's why he'll stay.
If he does leave for Brighton, i think it will be as much as indication that even he doesn't believe he could keep Town in the Premier League which would be a real shame and show that maybe were not prepared to make as good fist of it as the fans believe. But i don't thiink that is going to be the case. He'll end up staying because he believes he is the man that can do it. |
Not sure why it would indicate he doesn't think he could keep us up
Maybe he backs himself enoug to think he can get Brighton into Europe? |  | | |
| De Zerbi left because.... on 13:42 - May 21 with 1996 views | Bloots |
| You do know that Brighton..... on 13:28 - May 21 by N2_Blue |
Yes i do.
Fulham, Wolves have all done Europe and struggled to kick on. I don't see Brighton being a club that will manage to do what they haven't.
Why do you think De Zerbi left? |
....he wanted more say in the recruitment process.
Tony Bloom uses his analytical model for all player recruitment.
That's why he left. | |
| "He's been a really positive influence on my life, I think he's a great man" - TWTD User (May 2025) |
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| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:43 - May 21 with 1981 views | IP4_Blue |
| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:39 - May 21 by N2_Blue |
I think Mckenna is a different beast. He backs himself. I think he'll genuinely think he can keep us up net year and that's why he'll stay.
If he does leave for Brighton, i think it will be as much as indication that even he doesn't believe he could keep Town in the Premier League which would be a real shame and show that maybe were not prepared to make as good fist of it as the fans believe. But i don't thiink that is going to be the case. He'll end up staying because he believes he is the man that can do it. |
My gut is he leaves which will be gutting but I can't see how people don't see Brighton as an upgrade at the moment, they are 5 years ahead of us, it is the next step for McKenna to then go for real top jobs. I think we will catch Brighton but will take few years, which I don't think McKenna will want to wait | | | |
| Yeah, that's the impression I'm getting.... on 13:44 - May 21 with 1964 views | Bloots |
| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:38 - May 21 by NthQldITFC |
Isn't that more saying that Brighton isn't McKenna's first choice? |
....I reckon he fancies the Chelsea job and he wants to wait and see if Poch gets binned.
None of this potential waiting is great news for us. | |
| "He's been a really positive influence on my life, I think he's a great man" - TWTD User (May 2025) |
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| De Zerbi left because.... on 13:45 - May 21 with 1934 views | N2_Blue |
| De Zerbi left because.... on 13:42 - May 21 by Bloots |
....he wanted more say in the recruitment process.
Tony Bloom uses his analytical model for all player recruitment.
That's why he left. |
Yes i know..it was a rhetorical question! And that is one of the reasons i don't think McKenna will take the job. | |
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| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:46 - May 21 with 1897 views | BiGDonnie |
The infamous banner some nobbers took to the Amex is going to come back and bite us, isn't it! |  |
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| Farioli's odds have.... on 13:47 - May 21 with 1894 views | Bloots |
| De Zerbi left because.... on 13:45 - May 21 by N2_Blue |
Yes i know..it was a rhetorical question! And that is one of the reasons i don't think McKenna will take the job. |
plummeted over the last couple of hours.
There's still hope! | |
| "He's been a really positive influence on my life, I think he's a great man" - TWTD User (May 2025) |
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| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:47 - May 21 with 1887 views | Parky |
| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:08 - May 21 by PhilTWTD |
I think here there's a risk of relegation and putting his career path - with the ultimate aim getting a club like Man U or Chelsea - back a step or two. At Brighton, where they're established in the Premier League and with a well-set infrastructure at that level - someone said to me earlier that their analytics platform is as good as it gets - so the chance of performing to a level which might get him one of those big jobs is greater. That doesn't mean it's impossible with Town, of course. |
Fully get what you’re saying and know it won’t be an easy decision for McKenna, but the ‘established’ tag always annoys me. We start the season on the exact same amount of points as Brighton, ‘established’ teams are not guaranteed to do well.
I’ll put my neck on the line here and say the Brighton move just makes no sense to me, they’ve hit their ceiling, a selling club and McKenna would have no real say in transfers (believe that’s partly why De Zerbi left). He’s essentially built a club up here, even had a say in our training ground, he isn’t getting that at Brighton, a bad start and their fans would quickly turn.
Would obviously love him to stay and continue this journey he’s started, but if he wants to jump ship for Brighton before our journey has finished, then so be it. (FWIW, I’d have no qualms if he left for Chelsea or Man United, but I really don’t see the big appeal with Brighton. [Post edited 21 May 2024 13:55]
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| Yeah, that's the impression I'm getting.... on 13:49 - May 21 with 1867 views | itfcjoe |
| Yeah, that's the impression I'm getting.... on 13:44 - May 21 by Bloots |
....I reckon he fancies the Chelsea job and he wants to wait and see if Poch gets binned.
None of this potential waiting is great news for us. |
In 3 weeks time when Chelsea randomly bin off Poch we are going to wish he'd gone to Brighton  | |
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