| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen 09:27 - May 21 with 48734 views | itfcjoe |
Rob Edwards seems to be the only name mentioned yet so presume there is something in that
If we want the most continuity I would be doing what it takes to get Michael Carrick out of Boro, he signed a new deal a week or so back and very bought into the project there but I really like him too. Very tough deal to do I imagine.
I think the Pl may be a step too far, but had we stayed down I'd have been all over Danny Rohl, he strikes me as the most McKenna like as a career coach, great experience and done a fantastic job at Sheff Weds, really impressive and seems to 'get it' judging by their fan base.
Also, another name not seen mentioned much is Steve Cooper, did really well in the mad house that is Nottingham Forest, great developer of young players and good PL experience.
I've seen a few say Graham Potter but he feels unrealistic when you see the jobs linked with, is still being paid an exorbitant amount by Chelsea so not sure we'd have the clout to attract him |  |
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| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 12:59 - May 21 with 2549 views | PhilTWTD |
| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 12:54 - May 21 by N2_Blue |
"Brighton appear confident". Of course they have to appear confident. They're not going to appear otherwise.
Thats massivley differnt to indications coming directly from Mckenna or his team.
I'm more conident he's staying if this info is just coming from the Brighton side. |
A lot of the info seems to be coming from Brighton, how much is them pushing their agenda rather than leaks I'm not sure. But I know from sources closer to home that the Brighton situation is real and far from just rumours. |  | | |
| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:01 - May 21 with 2505 views | PhilTWTD |
| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 12:59 - May 21 by N2_Blue |
Why do you make it out that he's desperate to get out. Oh so United and chelsea don't want me, ok i'll go with the Brighton option then.
To be honest i'm starting to find your comments making less and less sense. |
That's not what I meant. I meant that's something else to be taken into consideration and I'm sure his people are advising along those lines.
I'm sure Kieran is far from desperate to move on, he would move with a heavy heart, I'm sure. | | | |
| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:02 - May 21 with 2483 views | PhilTWTD |
| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 12:57 - May 21 by leitrimblue |
I just called his family hotel an booked a room for the last weekend in August. I said to the women on the phone that I'm only booking it if Kieran is still Ipswich manager at the time. She answered in a lovely Fermanagh accent 'surely, why wouldn't he be'..
Think that confirms he's staying. |
First person to go on the record! | | | |
| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:02 - May 21 with 2461 views | Hipsterectomy |
| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 12:56 - May 21 by PhilTWTD |
Sorry! Was pretty much resigned to it being definite until conversation I had this morning, which suggested might not be quite so close.
Obviously, there's also the element of Man U and Chelsea being more attractive propositions. Not sure there's anything real in the Man U links but there is with Chelsea, albeit only one on a list of potential replacements if Poch moves on. If I were in KMc's position, I'd probably want to make sure that he's not a serious contender for that before making a decision to go to Brighton. |
Obviously any decisions he makes are going to be primarily what’s best for him and his family and require thinking, but I would hope he has enough respect and love for our club that he would make a decision as soon as he can. It sounds like he wants to leave based on all the noise, even if, somehow, he ends up staying, it may not be due to a desire to stay here |  |
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| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:04 - May 21 with 2421 views | midastouch |
I believe we should seek a progressive manager who aims to play expansive football, like Mick Megson.
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| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:04 - May 21 with 2419 views | hype313 |
| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:01 - May 21 by PhilTWTD |
That's not what I meant. I meant that's something else to be taken into consideration and I'm sure his people are advising along those lines.
I'm sure Kieran is far from desperate to move on, he would move with a heavy heart, I'm sure. |
I personally think if it was Chelsea or Utd then we wouldn't begrudge him that opportunity, with Brighton the upside is they are established, but does trying to improve from 10th to maybe 8th or 7th really push the boat out? far more upside potentially here, and if he does well here next season the world will be his oyster.
Just can't see Brighton being a huge pull. |  |
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| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:04 - May 21 with 2419 views | Guthrum |
| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 12:59 - May 21 by N2_Blue |
Why do you make it out that he's desperate to get out. Oh so United and chelsea don't want me, ok i'll go with the Brighton option then.
To be honest i'm starting to find your comments making less and less sense. |
If there was a reasonable chance of a somewhat better job and the possiblity of one or two very much better jobs, would you not consider any or all of those, despite the current job being a decent one? Does the current employer not become the worst of the three or four options under those circumstances? |  |
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| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:05 - May 21 with 2398 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 12:59 - May 21 by PhilTWTD |
A lot of the info seems to be coming from Brighton, how much is them pushing their agenda rather than leaks I'm not sure. But I know from sources closer to home that the Brighton situation is real and far from just rumours. |
I would imagine Mark Ashton is moving heaven and earth to offer him a better extended deal and obtaining a bigger transfer budget in order to keep him.
Push comes to shove, what do you think his reasons would be for leaving this project? |  |
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| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:05 - May 21 with 2388 views | tcblue |
| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 12:57 - May 21 by portmanking |
It's right though, isn't it?
If Kieran's head is being turned after back-to-back promotions, an entire county falling in love with him and an ownership group that'll move heaven and earth for him, what's even the point in trying to keep him?
It'll leave a very sour taste in my mouth, personally. 90% of pundits are speaking out saying he should stay, other opportunities will crop up again etc. It's all true. He's 38 FFS, not 58. I hope he doesn't live to regret it if he goes. |
He's not an Ipswich fan like us though.
If a higher prestige club is coming in and offering the same sort of commitment (we're not special in doing that, and it isn't like it has needed to be tested as we've only had success with him), why wouldn't he go? |  | | |
| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:05 - May 21 with 2382 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 12:57 - May 21 by portmanking |
It's right though, isn't it?
If Kieran's head is being turned after back-to-back promotions, an entire county falling in love with him and an ownership group that'll move heaven and earth for him, what's even the point in trying to keep him?
It'll leave a very sour taste in my mouth, personally. 90% of pundits are speaking out saying he should stay, other opportunities will crop up again etc. It's all true. He's 38 FFS, not 58. I hope he doesn't live to regret it if he goes. |
I think comments like these are harsh on KM. Brighton, in the face of it would be a lower risk move than potentially having a relegation on his CV.
Yes it would feel like being dumped, but who here judging him would ever put the desires of their employer before their own career. Not one I’d bet… | | | |
| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:06 - May 21 with 2352 views | N2_Blue |
| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:01 - May 21 by PhilTWTD |
That's not what I meant. I meant that's something else to be taken into consideration and I'm sure his people are advising along those lines.
I'm sure Kieran is far from desperate to move on, he would move with a heavy heart, I'm sure. |
Ok.
I still think it has to be an incredible offer to go to a side that will be hard to push on to the next level under their current model (i.e.) Brighton and leave a project that has ultimately only just reached its most exciting stage (i.e Ipswich)
I think Mckenna is very interested in what Brighton have to offer, but I'll still be astounded if he takes it knowing what i know of Brighton's set up.
De Zerbi couldn't see a way of breaching the next level. I'll be surprised if Mckenna would agree to the constraints that De Zerbi was not willing to endure. [Post edited 21 May 2024 13:08]
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| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:08 - May 21 with 2287 views | pointofblue |
| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 12:57 - May 21 by portmanking |
It's right though, isn't it?
If Kieran's head is being turned after back-to-back promotions, an entire county falling in love with him and an ownership group that'll move heaven and earth for him, what's even the point in trying to keep him?
It'll leave a very sour taste in my mouth, personally. 90% of pundits are speaking out saying he should stay, other opportunities will crop up again etc. It's all true. He's 38 FFS, not 58. I hope he doesn't live to regret it if he goes. |
Your final sentence - the bitter side of me hopes he does. | |
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| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:08 - May 21 with 2286 views | PhilTWTD |
| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:04 - May 21 by hype313 |
I personally think if it was Chelsea or Utd then we wouldn't begrudge him that opportunity, with Brighton the upside is they are established, but does trying to improve from 10th to maybe 8th or 7th really push the boat out? far more upside potentially here, and if he does well here next season the world will be his oyster.
Just can't see Brighton being a huge pull. |
I think here there's a risk of relegation and putting his career path - with the ultimate aim getting a club like Man U or Chelsea - back a step or two. At Brighton, where they're established in the Premier League and with a well-set infrastructure at that level - someone said to me earlier that their analytics platform is as good as it gets - so the chance of performing to a level which might get him one of those big jobs is greater. That doesn't mean it's impossible with Town, of course. | | | |
| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:11 - May 21 with 2220 views | PhilTWTD |
| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:05 - May 21 by GlasgowBlue |
I would imagine Mark Ashton is moving heaven and earth to offer him a better extended deal and obtaining a bigger transfer budget in order to keep him.
Push comes to shove, what do you think his reasons would be for leaving this project? |
I'm sure Town will do everything in their power to keep him here.
As per the above, if he goes I would assume he sees Brighton, at this point, as a better bet to take him forward in his career development. | | | |
| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:13 - May 21 with 2146 views | brogansnose |
| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 10:22 - May 21 by textbackup |
Carrick I think for me. That draw at PR vs his Boro team was (IMO) a really good game with two clearly very well coached teams.
But Potter would be the wow signing [Post edited 21 May 2024 10:22]
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Carrick is probably the nearest manager to McK there is out there. Both times we played them it was almost like a game of chess between two young masters. |  | | |
| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:15 - May 21 with 2119 views | N2_Blue |
| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:08 - May 21 by PhilTWTD |
I think here there's a risk of relegation and putting his career path - with the ultimate aim getting a club like Man U or Chelsea - back a step or two. At Brighton, where they're established in the Premier League and with a well-set infrastructure at that level - someone said to me earlier that their analytics platform is as good as it gets - so the chance of performing to a level which might get him one of those big jobs is greater. That doesn't mean it's impossible with Town, of course. |
I don't see how his career path can go backwards even if Town finish bottom.
Finishing lower half with Brighton would be more average and non-descript than finishing bottom with Ipswich.
Also a set back in his career path. He's 38!!! not 50.
Also risk of thinsg change when you leave a club as with what happened to Potter. It's just the strangest time possible to leave something on a masive upwards trajectory to not move up a huge level and may have already got as far as it can. Moving to a top eight team I'd get, Brighton...no although I get the anlalytics side of things would be the sort of thing that could pull Mckenna if Brighton's really is ahead of the game. [Post edited 21 May 2024 13:16]
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| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:16 - May 21 with 2083 views | portmanking |
| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:11 - May 21 by PhilTWTD |
I'm sure Town will do everything in their power to keep him here.
As per the above, if he goes I would assume he sees Brighton, at this point, as a better bet to take him forward in his career development. |
But Phil, he's 38! Why does he NEED to do that right now? Any sane owner would still be smitten with him if, heaven forbid, we go down next season. He's still going to be attractive. Yet by sticking with us next season, he has a chance to immortalise himself with us, carry on working with a squad that will already run through brick walls for him and continue building an elite infrastructure here in his mould.
With Brighton, he could take them from 11th to what... 8th at best? Is that really going to move the dial for a United or Chelsea? Hell, if Chelsea have him on their hit-list already without even managing a game in the Prem, why would relegation be an issue?! | | | |
| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:20 - May 21 with 2023 views | nodge_blue |
| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:11 - May 21 by PhilTWTD |
I'm sure Town will do everything in their power to keep him here.
As per the above, if he goes I would assume he sees Brighton, at this point, as a better bet to take him forward in his career development. |
Im going to be so disappointed in KM if he goes to Brighton for all the reasons ive put in another thread.
And it feels like a real kick in the teeth to us as fans and his players. Its like i cant keep you lot up for the next couple of years and just cant risk my career on it.
It will make it that much harder for us to survive next season too for numerous reasons. |  |
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| You do know that Brighton..... on 13:20 - May 21 with 2011 views | Bloots |
| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:15 - May 21 by N2_Blue |
I don't see how his career path can go backwards even if Town finish bottom.
Finishing lower half with Brighton would be more average and non-descript than finishing bottom with Ipswich.
Also a set back in his career path. He's 38!!! not 50.
Also risk of thinsg change when you leave a club as with what happened to Potter. It's just the strangest time possible to leave something on a masive upwards trajectory to not move up a huge level and may have already got as far as it can. Moving to a top eight team I'd get, Brighton...no although I get the anlalytics side of things would be the sort of thing that could pull Mckenna if Brighton's really is ahead of the game. [Post edited 21 May 2024 13:16]
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....got to the last 16 of the Europa League this season don't you?
One of the main reasons cited that they didn't push on this year was due to the additional games in Europe.
They will be wanting to push on next season to get back into Europe.
They are miles ahead of us at the moment, and as I have said previously KM is not an Ipswich supporter, he's a professional football manager that will look at things with a far more balanced perspective than we will. |  |
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| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:21 - May 21 with 2004 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:11 - May 21 by PhilTWTD |
I'm sure Town will do everything in their power to keep him here.
As per the above, if he goes I would assume he sees Brighton, at this point, as a better bet to take him forward in his career development. |
I would hope that he is also getting advice similar to that given by Simon Jordan. | |
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| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:23 - May 21 with 1989 views | NedPlimpton |
| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:16 - May 21 by portmanking |
But Phil, he's 38! Why does he NEED to do that right now? Any sane owner would still be smitten with him if, heaven forbid, we go down next season. He's still going to be attractive. Yet by sticking with us next season, he has a chance to immortalise himself with us, carry on working with a squad that will already run through brick walls for him and continue building an elite infrastructure here in his mould.
With Brighton, he could take them from 11th to what... 8th at best? Is that really going to move the dial for a United or Chelsea? Hell, if Chelsea have him on their hit-list already without even managing a game in the Prem, why would relegation be an issue?! |
He might not NEED to but he may well want to
I know I'd love to get to the pinnacle of my career as quickly as possible. Otherwise, who knows what could happen in the future scupper that |  | | |
| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:24 - May 21 with 1951 views | portmanking |
| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:20 - May 21 by nodge_blue |
Im going to be so disappointed in KM if he goes to Brighton for all the reasons ive put in another thread.
And it feels like a real kick in the teeth to us as fans and his players. Its like i cant keep you lot up for the next couple of years and just cant risk my career on it.
It will make it that much harder for us to survive next season too for numerous reasons. |
On your second paragraph - it really does feel like that doesn't it?
'I don't want to risk people stopping talking about me, so I'm going now'. I really think that couldn't be further from the case though. His attributes and approach to the game would attract any sane PL owner, survival or no survival next season. | | | |
| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:26 - May 21 with 1909 views | RedX |
| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:20 - May 21 by nodge_blue |
Im going to be so disappointed in KM if he goes to Brighton for all the reasons ive put in another thread.
And it feels like a real kick in the teeth to us as fans and his players. Its like i cant keep you lot up for the next couple of years and just cant risk my career on it.
It will make it that much harder for us to survive next season too for numerous reasons. |
It would be a selfish move. |  | | |
| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:26 - May 21 with 1894 views | hype313 |
| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:08 - May 21 by PhilTWTD |
I think here there's a risk of relegation and putting his career path - with the ultimate aim getting a club like Man U or Chelsea - back a step or two. At Brighton, where they're established in the Premier League and with a well-set infrastructure at that level - someone said to me earlier that their analytics platform is as good as it gets - so the chance of performing to a level which might get him one of those big jobs is greater. That doesn't mean it's impossible with Town, of course. |
Fair point and we're all looking at this through blue tinted specs, he's very much a data driven manager and if Brighton are best in class then can see the positives in that.
Still believe, taking off my blue tinted specs, that he has the keys to the kingdom here and the club will move mountains for him, the opportunities under this ownership are limitless.
Time will tell. | |
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| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 13:27 - May 21 with 1859 views | Parky |
| Potential next manager market if the worst was to happen on 11:14 - May 21 by Hackneyblueboy |
Are we getting to a stage where needing to start approaching managers? |
Already started. | | | |
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