| The Silence is Deafening. 08:18 - May 24 with 6275 views | OldFart71 |
With all this speculation regarding McKenna the silence from the club is deafening. In my humble opinion they should be issuing a statement saying it as it is. This, after all the euphoria of Promotion has really kicked the guts out of the excitement. Put the club in a bad light and reading the comments not done McKenna any favours either. Of course he should have time and a deserved holiday and his achievements will forever be regarded as some of the best in the history of ITFC. But we need to know what is happening otherwise the speculation will continue and certainly take the gloss off recent achievements. |  | | |  |
| The Silence is Deafening. on 11:28 - May 24 with 1468 views | Herbivore |
| The Silence is Deafening. on 11:18 - May 24 by trncbluearmy |
Exactly
Sure I'm not the only to have from the guys a god and can do no wrong to don't trust him hope he goes
He needs to put a stop to this now and if there really is a fantastic offer on the table sign it.
Not exactly the end of the world is it?! [Post edited 24 May 2024 11:19]
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If you genuinely hope he goes that is absolutely insane. He's one of the best young managers in Europe and has worked minor miracles here. As Phil has said, he clearly has a lot of affection for the club and isn't desperate to move but he can't help the fact there's interest in him, it's inevitable after what he's achieved here. Some of our fans could do with toughening up a bit to be honest, there's been an awful lot of heads gone very quickly as soon as a bit of speculation has started up. |  |
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| The Silence is Deafening. on 11:28 - May 24 with 1470 views | Guthrum |
| The Silence is Deafening. on 11:18 - May 24 by trncbluearmy |
Exactly
Sure I'm not the only to have from the guys a god and can do no wrong to don't trust him hope he goes
He needs to put a stop to this now and if there really is a fantastic offer on the table sign it.
Not exactly the end of the world is it?! [Post edited 24 May 2024 11:19]
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Reports seem to concur that none of the suitors have actually made offers yet. There's nothing to sign, or to turn down. |  |
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| The Silence is Deafening. on 11:29 - May 24 with 1448 views | cressi |
| The Silence is Deafening. on 11:18 - May 24 by trncbluearmy |
Exactly
Sure I'm not the only to have from the guys a god and can do no wrong to don't trust him hope he goes
He needs to put a stop to this now and if there really is a fantastic offer on the table sign it.
Not exactly the end of the world is it?! [Post edited 24 May 2024 11:19]
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Without been racist his Not from India and having a arranged managers job he holds the cards Not his agent. He obviously is involved in all of this carry ons. | | | |
| The Silence is Deafening. on 11:32 - May 24 with 1423 views | Leaky |
| The Silence is Deafening. on 11:03 - May 24 by PhilTWTD |
As far as I'm aware, if he left here it would be with a heavy heart, he's far from desperate to move on. Opportunities evidently being explored by his representatives, who I think may be less keen on him staying here than he is. |
Surely that's the tail wagging the dog. If you use an Estate Agent to buy a house you wouldn't want him telling which house to buy. |  | | |
| The Silence is Deafening. on 11:35 - May 24 with 1407 views | Guthrum |
| The Silence is Deafening. on 11:15 - May 24 by bluesbrothers |
How does this work in reality though? Surely they are in constant communication and he is the client and so he has authority over them to act as he wants? |
Are they in constant communication (any more than solicitors when you're trying to get them to sort something out)? Given McKenna has a pretty involved job already, has he the time to keep on at them?
Are they just doing things the way agents do, but we're not used to the situation (of having our manager courted) so see it as a great betrayal? The media attention just being a consequence of ITFC's new high profile and that of the suitors? | |
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| The Silence is Deafening. on 11:37 - May 24 with 1385 views | itfc1108 |
| The Silence is Deafening. on 11:32 - May 24 by Leaky |
Surely that's the tail wagging the dog. If you use an Estate Agent to buy a house you wouldn't want him telling which house to buy. |
They try to though. | | | |
| The Silence is Deafening. on 11:38 - May 24 with 1372 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| The Silence is Deafening. on 11:18 - May 24 by trncbluearmy |
Exactly
Sure I'm not the only to have from the guys a god and can do no wrong to don't trust him hope he goes
He needs to put a stop to this now and if there really is a fantastic offer on the table sign it.
Not exactly the end of the world is it?! [Post edited 24 May 2024 11:19]
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At a wild guess, his agents are on some sort of a retainer, and the contract with McKenna gives them autonomy to act on his behalf.
"The undersigned gives us authority to act in their best interests as agents for the afore mentioned party for a period of four years. The agents and the represented party can exit this agreement at anytime for a fee of XYZ percent of the last negotiated contract"
Hence why all these clubs have been in touch with 'his representatives' [Post edited 24 May 2024 11:41]
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| The Silence is Deafening. on 11:40 - May 24 with 1356 views | Herbivore |
| The Silence is Deafening. on 11:32 - May 24 by Leaky |
Surely that's the tail wagging the dog. If you use an Estate Agent to buy a house you wouldn't want him telling which house to buy. |
No, but they would be pushing you to consider making offers rather than staying put so they could get their commission. | |
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| The Silence is Deafening. on 11:40 - May 24 with 1355 views | Guthrum |
| The Silence is Deafening. on 11:32 - May 24 by Leaky |
Surely that's the tail wagging the dog. If you use an Estate Agent to buy a house you wouldn't want him telling which house to buy. |
You don't use estate agents that way. You hire them to sell, but don't put restrictions upon which people are allowed to view the property in case it might upset the neighbours. | |
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| The Silence is Deafening. on 11:42 - May 24 with 1333 views | BseaBlue |
| The Silence is Deafening. on 11:28 - May 24 by Herbivore |
If you genuinely hope he goes that is absolutely insane. He's one of the best young managers in Europe and has worked minor miracles here. As Phil has said, he clearly has a lot of affection for the club and isn't desperate to move but he can't help the fact there's interest in him, it's inevitable after what he's achieved here. Some of our fans could do with toughening up a bit to be honest, there's been an awful lot of heads gone very quickly as soon as a bit of speculation has started up. |
Yeah it seems pretty mental that people are happy to see him gone based on things that might not have even happened.
At the end of the day, if he has a chance to progress his career, he will take it. If the shoe was on the other foot, clubs are just as quick to sack managers so they need to use their stock value whilst they can.
I will be gutted if he goes, but appreciative of how he has turned the club around and will genuinely hope he does really well, as this will only reflect well on the club for giving him a chance! |  | | |
| The Silence is Deafening. on 11:46 - May 24 with 1298 views | Guthrum |
| The Silence is Deafening. on 11:38 - May 24 by Cheltenham_Blue |
At a wild guess, his agents are on some sort of a retainer, and the contract with McKenna gives them autonomy to act on his behalf.
"The undersigned gives us authority to act in their best interests as agents for the afore mentioned party for a period of four years. The agents and the represented party can exit this agreement at anytime for a fee of XYZ percent of the last negotiated contract"
Hence why all these clubs have been in touch with 'his representatives' [Post edited 24 May 2024 11:41]
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Given that agents deal with a lot of other day-to-day stuff which McKenna doesn't have time to do in a high-powered job with lots of travelling and weekend/unsociable hours, then there will definitely be an on-going contract which covers all sorts of things outside recruitment. Including professional filings and dealing with ITFC, the LMA, the FA and so on.
However, job moves are the agency's big pay-day - as well as improving the position of their client. So they are going to put effort into that. | |
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| The Silence is Deafening. on 11:48 - May 24 with 1280 views | 3_5_2 |
I don't think there is much the club can say until it goes one way or another but I do understand how unsettling this is for fans, me included.
My take on it is what will be, will be, deal with it when it comes out
What some fans are putting on social media, having a go at KM before we know the truth, is embarrassing stuff |  |
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| The Silence is Deafening. on 11:52 - May 24 with 1253 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| The Silence is Deafening. on 11:46 - May 24 by Guthrum |
Given that agents deal with a lot of other day-to-day stuff which McKenna doesn't have time to do in a high-powered job with lots of travelling and weekend/unsociable hours, then there will definitely be an on-going contract which covers all sorts of things outside recruitment. Including professional filings and dealing with ITFC, the LMA, the FA and so on.
However, job moves are the agency's big pay-day - as well as improving the position of their client. So they are going to put effort into that. |
…..isn’t than what I said? | |
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| The Silence is Deafening. on 11:52 - May 24 with 1258 views | Guthrum |
| The Silence is Deafening. on 10:27 - May 24 by trncbluearmy |
The "I've been loyal"comment would not have gone unnoticed it sent a clear message, he feels he owes Ipswich nothing.
His reps then tap up and make public contact with various clubs some even having managers in place (I wonder how managers who voted him manager of the year feel about that)
For me he's crossed the line,even if he stays how can he be trusted?
No one is irreplaceable.
Ashton will be aware of this,he's nobodies fool and our true "superpower", he will have replacements lined up ready to take ITFC to the next level [Post edited 24 May 2024 10:28]
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Why are people assuming McKenna's agents made contact with those clubs, not the other way around?
There's this slightly bizarre narrative that McKenna has been chasing a move rather than simply taking under consideration interest (not yet offers) from elsewhere. [Post edited 24 May 2024 11:53]
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| The Silence is Deafening. on 11:53 - May 24 with 1251 views | Guthrum |
| The Silence is Deafening. on 11:52 - May 24 by Cheltenham_Blue |
…..isn’t than what I said? |
Yes, I was agreeing with you and amplifying the point. | |
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| The Silence is Deafening. on 11:55 - May 24 with 1233 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| The Silence is Deafening. on 11:53 - May 24 by Guthrum |
Yes, I was agreeing with you and amplifying the point. |
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| The Silence is Deafening. on 11:58 - May 24 with 1201 views | Jon_456 |
| The Silence is Deafening. on 11:03 - May 24 by PhilTWTD |
As far as I'm aware, if he left here it would be with a heavy heart, he's far from desperate to move on. Opportunities evidently being explored by his representatives, who I think may be less keen on him staying here than he is. |
This is the problem with agents & representatives. Presumably they make most of their money when their clients move on so they’re always going to be in favour of a player / manager making a move? | | | |
| The Silence is Deafening. on 12:02 - May 24 with 1164 views | Cafe_Newman |
| The Silence is Deafening. on 10:13 - May 24 by ibbleobble |
Never understood that phrase. Silence is peaceful unlike this forum over the last ten days. |
It's the exception which proves the rule... or something. |  | | |
| The Silence is Deafening. on 12:06 - May 24 with 1137 views | OldFart71 |
| The Silence is Deafening. on 08:24 - May 24 by MattinLondon |
The club doesn’t have to say anything as it’s not their responsibility to placate fans or to address rumours.
These rumours are fuelled in part, by activity on here. |
That's not totally true. Yes fan and the like are speculating. But TWTD and EADT plus virtually every other newspaper you pick up or every soccer pundit are all saying similar things. The club don't need to state McKenna is staying or McKenna is going. That no doubt will happen in due course. But if as has been alluded to he or his agent have been directly contacted by whoever then the club could issue a statement to that effect and just say we are doing everything we can to keep Kieran at PR. No, that wouldn't douse speculation totally, but it would stop this insane amount of every man and his dog from writing things that could be very wide of the mark. | | | |
| The Silence is Deafening. on 12:10 - May 24 with 1111 views | Herbivore |
| The Silence is Deafening. on 12:06 - May 24 by OldFart71 |
That's not totally true. Yes fan and the like are speculating. But TWTD and EADT plus virtually every other newspaper you pick up or every soccer pundit are all saying similar things. The club don't need to state McKenna is staying or McKenna is going. That no doubt will happen in due course. But if as has been alluded to he or his agent have been directly contacted by whoever then the club could issue a statement to that effect and just say we are doing everything we can to keep Kieran at PR. No, that wouldn't douse speculation totally, but it would stop this insane amount of every man and his dog from writing things that could be very wide of the mark. |
I really don't see how a club statement saying there is interest in him but we're trying to keep him would be remotely helpful. | |
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| The Silence is Deafening. on 12:22 - May 24 with 1042 views | BondiBlue |
| The Silence is Deafening. on 11:29 - May 24 by cressi |
Without been racist his Not from India and having a arranged managers job he holds the cards Not his agent. He obviously is involved in all of this carry ons. |
Haha 'without being racist'. There were many ways you could have made that point without being anywhere near as racist as you managed to be. | |
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| The Silence is Deafening. on 12:40 - May 24 with 979 views | trncbluearmy |
| The Silence is Deafening. on 11:28 - May 24 by Guthrum |
Reports seem to concur that none of the suitors have actually made offers yet. There's nothing to sign, or to turn down. |
Can't believe Ipswich have not made an offer,would have been crazy not to protect our interest we can only control our side |  | | |
| The Silence is Deafening. on 12:42 - May 24 with 964 views | wkj |
| The Silence is Deafening. on 12:40 - May 24 by trncbluearmy |
Can't believe Ipswich have not made an offer,would have been crazy not to protect our interest we can only control our side |
Who is to say they haven't? |  |
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| The Silence is Deafening. on 12:44 - May 24 with 955 views | trncbluearmy |
| The Silence is Deafening. on 11:52 - May 24 by Guthrum |
Why are people assuming McKenna's agents made contact with those clubs, not the other way around?
There's this slightly bizarre narrative that McKenna has been chasing a move rather than simply taking under consideration interest (not yet offers) from elsewhere. [Post edited 24 May 2024 11:53]
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We don't know the answer to that
But I do know agents are pro active, that's why they are agents | | | |
| The Silence is Deafening. on 12:45 - May 24 with 947 views | wkj |
| The Silence is Deafening. on 12:06 - May 24 by OldFart71 |
That's not totally true. Yes fan and the like are speculating. But TWTD and EADT plus virtually every other newspaper you pick up or every soccer pundit are all saying similar things. The club don't need to state McKenna is staying or McKenna is going. That no doubt will happen in due course. But if as has been alluded to he or his agent have been directly contacted by whoever then the club could issue a statement to that effect and just say we are doing everything we can to keep Kieran at PR. No, that wouldn't douse speculation totally, but it would stop this insane amount of every man and his dog from writing things that could be very wide of the mark. |
They're saying the same things because one place reports it, it gets traction, and everywhere else rehashes that story in their own words, some straight up copy and paste the source article. | |
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