| More ticketing move balls ups 17:54 - Jun 10 with 24272 views | textbackup |
This time the pioneer movers
Having a mare aren’t they. But don’t you dare moan. |  |
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| But where else are they going to put the press box? on 20:29 - Jun 10 with 3835 views | unstableblue |
And a tip for those being moved.. the Upper North and Upper Churchmans provide far superior views, far superior legroom and far superior concourse facilities.
I’ve sat in that area of the Pioneer Upper and you can’t even see the touchline!
The sight lines from the upper stands give you that full view of the pitch dimensions that a side seat also has the advantage of.
The legroom in both the Cobbold Upper and Pioneer are terrible. |  |
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| More ticketing move balls ups on 20:31 - Jun 10 with 3822 views | yesjohn99 |
| More ticketing move balls ups on 18:25 - Jun 10 by Pinewoodblue |
The necessary moves were clearly predictable the moment promotion was gained.
While it is OK to sympathise with those directly affected there really isn't anything to moan about. |
Daft. |  | | |
| More ticketing move balls ups on 20:38 - Jun 10 with 3759 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| More ticketing move balls ups on 19:34 - Jun 10 by Swansea_Blue |
If they don’t want a ST there are plenty of other people who do |
Honestly, don't some people understand this is just business. I mean, as if individuals matter. |  |
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| More ticketing move balls ups on 20:41 - Jun 10 with 3748 views | LankHenners |
They really have messed this up and it's pretty poor in all honesty.
Appreciate he was trying to protect staff to a degree but thought Ashton got the whole tone wrong from the start with his 'don't complain, get on with it' comments. He approached it with his coldhearted, corporate hat on rather than the human touch which was obviously going to be necessary.
He likes to go on about how much the history of the club matters and how important the fans are, but clearly no thought was given to the fact a lot of the people in the affected areas will be long-standing ST holders and/or older people more likely to get a bit confused and stuck with an abrupt 'choose a new seat tomorrow or miss out' type of email. |  |
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| How have they messed this up? on 20:50 - Jun 10 with 3678 views | unstableblue |
| More ticketing move balls ups on 20:41 - Jun 10 by LankHenners |
They really have messed this up and it's pretty poor in all honesty.
Appreciate he was trying to protect staff to a degree but thought Ashton got the whole tone wrong from the start with his 'don't complain, get on with it' comments. He approached it with his coldhearted, corporate hat on rather than the human touch which was obviously going to be necessary.
He likes to go on about how much the history of the club matters and how important the fans are, but clearly no thought was given to the fact a lot of the people in the affected areas will be long-standing ST holders and/or older people more likely to get a bit confused and stuck with an abrupt 'choose a new seat tomorrow or miss out' type of email. |
I’m really struggling to see how the club has messed up this difficult challenge.
They can’t help if some photos were leaked prior to them getting their comms to seatholders released.
Also Ashton just had to be blunt, because unfortunately people were going to be inconvenienced. The away fans had to take up half the Cobbold upper and the press box had to be moved.
This I’m afraid is the price of the Premier League updgrade. We can stay in the Championship if that makes people stay in their legacy seats.
But of course everyone sympathises. Your long term season ticket position is a real emotional connection. And I think the D block superiors seat move is a real challenge.
But as I said in another post, the upper tiers behind the goal proved brilliant views and great legroom. | |
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| More ticketing move balls ups on 20:54 - Jun 10 with 3642 views | unstableblue |
| More ticketing move balls ups on 20:03 - Jun 10 by southnorfolkblue |
How bad are those restricted views at the back of the West stand? I’ve always preferred sitting side on but am now thinking that I may need to go behind the goal to get a better view |
Trust me the views in the upper north… are superior to the pioneer upper, they’re unrestricted. The pioneer upper means you don’t really see the near touch line.
And the sight lines I general are poor.
Upper North is a great view.
Obviously by being higher you do lose some connection with the pitch, but it’s minor. Plus the atmosphere is superior. And the carpeted bars either end eclipse the cramped bars in the pioneer upper. | |
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| More ticketing move balls ups on 21:03 - Jun 10 with 3582 views | southnorfolkblue |
| More ticketing move balls ups on 20:54 - Jun 10 by unstableblue |
Trust me the views in the upper north… are superior to the pioneer upper, they’re unrestricted. The pioneer upper means you don’t really see the near touch line.
And the sight lines I general are poor.
Upper North is a great view.
Obviously by being higher you do lose some connection with the pitch, but it’s minor. Plus the atmosphere is superior. And the carpeted bars either end eclipse the cramped bars in the pioneer upper. |
Thanks. It looks like there’s more seats on offer in the Sir Alf so I’m going to pitch for that I think | |
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| More ticketing move balls ups on 21:15 - Jun 10 with 3510 views | stonojnr |
| More ticketing move balls ups on 20:13 - Jun 10 by heavyweight |
Any row from about S backwards means the roof blocks you from seeing the big screen. The pillars aren't that bad but can be annoying when you have to keep moving from side to side to follow the ball. |
I wouldnt have said not being able to see the big screen means restricted view, half of Sir Alf cant see it either. | | | |
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| More ticketing move balls ups on 21:23 - Jun 10 with 3466 views | unstableblue |
| More ticketing move balls ups on 21:03 - Jun 10 by southnorfolkblue |
Thanks. It looks like there’s more seats on offer in the Sir Alf so I’m going to pitch for that I think |
Sounds a good move. You get some good bar options. Large concourses. As stated far far superior leg room. I suggest moving to the side a bit to get as low to the pitch as you can.
I’m more familiar with the upper North, but it’s a good view from up there in the Churchmans upper.
A lot more atmosphere in upper north.
I think you’ll find the move positive. | |
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| More ticketing move balls ups on 21:29 - Jun 10 with 3428 views | unstableblue |
| More ticketing move balls ups on 21:03 - Jun 10 by southnorfolkblue |
Thanks. It looks like there’s more seats on offer in the Sir Alf so I’m going to pitch for that I think |
This photo may be useful for you. To get an idea of view.
I would caution that in your current seat you’re used to see the North Stand second half action in fairly close quarters. You will lose some of that in the Sir Alf Upper… so I would factor that in. As well as approaching and reaching the ground in a new way.
It’s going to be a challenge I’m sure I’m adjusting to the move.
I hope it goes well for you. | |
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| More ticketing move balls ups on 21:50 - Jun 10 with 3343 views | Vegtablue |
| More ticketing move balls ups on 21:29 - Jun 10 by unstableblue |
This photo may be useful for you. To get an idea of view.
I would caution that in your current seat you’re used to see the North Stand second half action in fairly close quarters. You will lose some of that in the Sir Alf Upper… so I would factor that in. As well as approaching and reaching the ground in a new way.
It’s going to be a challenge I’m sure I’m adjusting to the move.
I hope it goes well for you. |
Upper North has very little availability though I think? Apart from the end columns which are off the pitch. | | | |
| More ticketing move balls ups on 22:01 - Jun 10 with 3274 views | southnorfolkblue |
| More ticketing move balls ups on 21:50 - Jun 10 by Vegtablue |
Upper North has very little availability though I think? Apart from the end columns which are off the pitch. |
Certainly less than Sir Alf. It’s mostly seats at the back or at the extreme ends of Blocks 1 and 3, but I’d imagine that there still pretty decent views | |
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| More ticketing move balls ups on 22:20 - Jun 10 with 3156 views | lizzibee |
| More ticketing move balls ups on 18:35 - Jun 10 by Kieran_Knows |
Given the fact we were in top 2/play off contention for pretty much the whole season, which was guaranteed around March time, the communication could’ve come out a lot better than what it has, rather than an email and free for all the next day. |
from what Ashton said, they didn't have the visit until much later | | | |
| More ticketing move balls ups on 22:26 - Jun 10 with 3122 views | lizzibee |
| More ticketing move balls ups on 19:49 - Jun 10 by heavyweight |
That is just a nonsense thing to say. Folk with season tickets for very good seats are now being put behind every other season ticket holder, they have every right to be annoyed.
It seems like the club are not even throwing them a bone - one fixture in one of the new executice boxes would have at least softened the blow. But it seems thd club are completely unapolgetic about the whole process which is very insensitive. |
Whilst I have synopathy to this, why should those with perceived very good seats be put ahead of others? that statement is somewhat elitist saying if you can afford more expensive seats you have more rights. | | | |
| How have they messed this up? on 22:42 - Jun 10 with 3061 views | Illinoisblue |
| How have they messed this up? on 20:50 - Jun 10 by unstableblue |
I’m really struggling to see how the club has messed up this difficult challenge.
They can’t help if some photos were leaked prior to them getting their comms to seatholders released.
Also Ashton just had to be blunt, because unfortunately people were going to be inconvenienced. The away fans had to take up half the Cobbold upper and the press box had to be moved.
This I’m afraid is the price of the Premier League updgrade. We can stay in the Championship if that makes people stay in their legacy seats.
But of course everyone sympathises. Your long term season ticket position is a real emotional connection. And I think the D block superiors seat move is a real challenge.
But as I said in another post, the upper tiers behind the goal proved brilliant views and great legroom. |
He could have been blunt but still wrapped it up an apology of sorts. All the “don’t contact the ticket office” stuff was very much “shut up and don’t complain” |  |
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| More ticketing move balls ups on 22:47 - Jun 10 with 3039 views | mellowblue |
| More ticketing move balls ups on 22:26 - Jun 10 by lizzibee |
Whilst I have synopathy to this, why should those with perceived very good seats be put ahead of others? that statement is somewhat elitist saying if you can afford more expensive seats you have more rights. |
Generally a lot of those fans have had those seats have had them through thick and thin over the decades and for that loyalty have been royally shafted and offered either restricted views if they want West Stand views or really high and far back if behind the goals. It's not about entitlement but fairness. | | | |
| More ticketing move balls ups on 00:11 - Jun 11 with 2924 views | heavyweight |
| More ticketing move balls ups on 22:26 - Jun 10 by lizzibee |
Whilst I have synopathy to this, why should those with perceived very good seats be put ahead of others? that statement is somewhat elitist saying if you can afford more expensive seats you have more rights. |
I don't think I'm saying that. It doesn't seem correct that they have less rights though. | | | |
| More ticketing move balls ups on 01:48 - Jun 11 with 2870 views | itfcsuth |
What’s the issue, haven’t seen anything? |  | | |
| But where else are they going to put the press box? on 07:21 - Jun 11 with 2718 views | Churchman |
| But where else are they going to put the press box? on 20:29 - Jun 10 by unstableblue |
And a tip for those being moved.. the Upper North and Upper Churchmans provide far superior views, far superior legroom and far superior concourse facilities.
I’ve sat in that area of the Pioneer Upper and you can’t even see the touchline!
The sight lines from the upper stands give you that full view of the pitch dimensions that a side seat also has the advantage of.
The legroom in both the Cobbold Upper and Pioneer are terrible. |
In this situation, that’s what I’d do. The Cobbold Stand shows every year of its 53 years. The seating and facilities are poor. Never liked Upper Pioneer, right from the off. For some reason the views from o lot of it are not good and neither is the legroom. I’m not tall and it’s tight.
Upper Churchmans is ok. When I was thrown out of the demolished North Stand, I wish I’d gone there rather than going with the West Stand fossils who told me off for making a noise when we scored and called a steward when I waved off a sent off opposition player.
We are paying for years of neglect. While characterful, the stadium isn’t really fit for purpose. I feel sorry for the people affected. It’s annoying. I also feel sorry for the people working at the club who are no doubt getting dogs abuse from a good number of the 1000 affected. Sorting out 1000 disgruntled people in such a short time with I’m guessing limited staff numbers, space and kit (phones and PC) - not easy.
The problem is in fact pretty much insurmountable. I’ve seen plenty of suggestions about what should have been done, none of which make practical sense to me. Have the club committed to squeezing those affected into an undersized stadium? Yes. Has the club promised priority for those affected when the East Stand is rebuilt? I hope so. It should. Has the club looked at best options for dealing with this problem? For their own sanity, my guess is yes. |  | | |
| More ticketing move balls ups on 09:16 - Jun 11 with 2560 views | lizzibee |
| More ticketing move balls ups on 22:47 - Jun 10 by mellowblue |
Generally a lot of those fans have had those seats have had them through thick and thin over the decades and for that loyalty have been royally shafted and offered either restricted views if they want West Stand views or really high and far back if behind the goals. It's not about entitlement but fairness. |
The problem is that is the only place to put away fans which we have to to meet PL requirements - we have no choice. And with season ticket sales as they are, there are limited seats elsewhere. They can't move those existing ST holders elsewhere. The price of success. | | | |
| More ticketing move balls ups on 09:27 - Jun 11 with 2512 views | southnorfolkblue |
| More ticketing move balls ups on 09:16 - Jun 11 by lizzibee |
The problem is that is the only place to put away fans which we have to to meet PL requirements - we have no choice. And with season ticket sales as they are, there are limited seats elsewhere. They can't move those existing ST holders elsewhere. The price of success. |
Why can’t they move existing ST holders elsewhere?
What’s wrong with saying to someone who has had a ticket for 2 years sorry you need to move to accommodate someone who has had one for 30?
Genuine question. Why can’t they do that? | |
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| More ticketing move balls ups on 09:49 - Jun 11 with 2428 views | Churchman |
| More ticketing move balls ups on 09:27 - Jun 11 by southnorfolkblue |
Why can’t they move existing ST holders elsewhere?
What’s wrong with saying to someone who has had a ticket for 2 years sorry you need to move to accommodate someone who has had one for 30?
Genuine question. Why can’t they do that? |
What if circumstances have prevented those people who’ve had a ST for two straight years because of not being able to go for a couple of seasons but had a ST decades before that? What if they were there standing every week in the days of black and white? Define entitled beyond one’s own personal wants and you are in a world of trouble. Where do you draw the line?
It all sounds a bit privilege/elitist to me. All a bit ‘I’ve had my cushion and milky drink for 40 years and that entitles me to push out everyone else because I’m special’. All a bit ‘I pay £900 which means if some pleb who pays £360 is shoved behind a pillar or into the road, so be it - I come first’.
No you don’t. People have a season ticket. A ticket for a seat. They should be left alone. If circumstances mean your seat has to go, you will be accommodated in a spare seat somewhere else in the stadium. Simple and as fair as it gets in an impossible situation.
On a practical level, people are moaning about lack of contact etc, suggesting the club drafts in additional bodies you name it, and this suggestion of pushing out others out for the privileged just doubles or triples the workload. Their in lies madness to me.
If I wind up next season with say a father and son either side, I will swap with one of them. If the club asked me to do that up front, no problem. If I was asked to move to another block because a load of relocated fogeys who sat in the same group for 40 years wanted my space, I’d say no. Not a chance. | | | |
| More ticketing move balls ups on 10:01 - Jun 11 with 2409 views | itfcjoe |
Easy to say but feels like it would have been best giving the away fans the block nearest to them in the Sir Alf Ramsey upper tier. The people who would have needed to be relocated for that would have much more 'similar' seats as the upper corners in the other block, plus the top tier of North upper would have better availability and seats
Plus those moved from the good side on seats in the West Stand could move to the East Stand (maybe even extend D Block to cater for that) |  |
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| More ticketing move balls ups on 10:09 - Jun 11 with 2353 views | lizzibee |
| More ticketing move balls ups on 09:27 - Jun 11 by southnorfolkblue |
Why can’t they move existing ST holders elsewhere?
What’s wrong with saying to someone who has had a ticket for 2 years sorry you need to move to accommodate someone who has had one for 30?
Genuine question. Why can’t they do that? |
its a logistical nightmare, but why would that be fair. They have a season ticket - should not matter how long - those who have had longer have no more right and those who may say more have no greater rights. And at what year would you draw the line? | | | |
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