| Poor little rishi 10:39 - Jun 12 with 3715 views | factual_blue |
He didn't have sky tv as a child.
That'll be because your parents (a GP and a pharmacist) sent you to Stroud preparatory school (fees currently around £5k a term) and then to Winchester College (fees around £16k a term), and didn't waste their money on trashy TV.
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| Poor little rishi on 11:32 - Jun 12 with 3233 views | Wacko |
I'm anti-Tory and anti-Sunak, but as someone who went to boarding school from the age of 8, I can assure you it's psychologically brutal in the long term. The Sunaks absolutely didn't have to make any financial sacrifices like millions of people have to do on a daily basis, but in order to maintain a high level of wealth you still need to make society / family sacrifices, which includes buying into this nonsense notion then sending your kid away for half a year each year will "make them into a man" - whereas in reality it's to allow your parents to focus on making even more money. In summary, the patriarchal system is rotten, but it's not just the poor who suffer. |  |
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| Poor little rishi on 11:34 - Jun 12 with 3218 views | nodge_blue |
Considering sky tv when he was a child was £10 a month i doubt the lack of sky was due to financial constraints. |  |
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| Poor little rishi on 11:41 - Jun 12 with 3185 views | nrb1985 |
Of all the things to attack him for this is fairly spurious though. Like when May was asked "what's the worst thing you've ever done?"
His record in govt is appalling and the last 14 years have probably set us back decades. Rightly he should be battered over the head for that but asking him "what did your parents sacrifice" is clickbait nonsense imo. [Post edited 12 Jun 2024 11:42]
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| Poor little rishi on 11:46 - Jun 12 with 3131 views | soupytwist |
| Poor little rishi on 11:32 - Jun 12 by Wacko |
I'm anti-Tory and anti-Sunak, but as someone who went to boarding school from the age of 8, I can assure you it's psychologically brutal in the long term. The Sunaks absolutely didn't have to make any financial sacrifices like millions of people have to do on a daily basis, but in order to maintain a high level of wealth you still need to make society / family sacrifices, which includes buying into this nonsense notion then sending your kid away for half a year each year will "make them into a man" - whereas in reality it's to allow your parents to focus on making even more money. In summary, the patriarchal system is rotten, but it's not just the poor who suffer. |
While I don't doubt the potential, and actual, psychological harm inflicted by sending an 8 year old to boarding school, Stroud Prep that Sunak attended at that age is non-boarding.
Winchester College, where he went afterwards is a boarding school and the youngest pupils there are 13. [Post edited 12 Jun 2024 11:48]
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| Poor little rishi on 11:49 - Jun 12 with 3098 views | Mercian |
| Poor little rishi on 11:41 - Jun 12 by nrb1985 |
Of all the things to attack him for this is fairly spurious though. Like when May was asked "what's the worst thing you've ever done?"
His record in govt is appalling and the last 14 years have probably set us back decades. Rightly he should be battered over the head for that but asking him "what did your parents sacrifice" is clickbait nonsense imo. [Post edited 12 Jun 2024 11:42]
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It's about entitlement and disconnection with reality . It's similar to when Trump was given a "Small financial gift" of $1,000,000 from his father on becoming an adult in the 1960s. Rishi wants to portray that he had a hard childhood when he actually had a privileged one. |  | | |
| Poor little rishi on 11:54 - Jun 12 with 3051 views | nrb1985 |
| Poor little rishi on 11:49 - Jun 12 by Mercian |
It's about entitlement and disconnection with reality . It's similar to when Trump was given a "Small financial gift" of $1,000,000 from his father on becoming an adult in the 1960s. Rishi wants to portray that he had a hard childhood when he actually had a privileged one. |
Totally agree but we all know that already and have done for 5 years.
We've seen the video of him as a kid re working class friends while his Dad sat there smiling and nodding sagely like the Churchill dog.
What is the point of asking him these questions now? I'd like him to be asked
"do you regret now the tactic of lurching the entire party to the right and vacating the centre ground?"
"why did you care more about what Nigel Farage thinks than the other 65m people in this country?"
"you're supposed to be smart, why is it you can't think on your feet?"
"why did you ask a homeless man at a shelter what kind of business he's in?"
"why did you get tackled by a static cone at football training last week?" | | | |
| Poor little rishi on 11:58 - Jun 12 with 3028 views | Dubtractor |
| Poor little rishi on 11:54 - Jun 12 by nrb1985 |
Totally agree but we all know that already and have done for 5 years.
We've seen the video of him as a kid re working class friends while his Dad sat there smiling and nodding sagely like the Churchill dog.
What is the point of asking him these questions now? I'd like him to be asked
"do you regret now the tactic of lurching the entire party to the right and vacating the centre ground?"
"why did you care more about what Nigel Farage thinks than the other 65m people in this country?"
"you're supposed to be smart, why is it you can't think on your feet?"
"why did you ask a homeless man at a shelter what kind of business he's in?"
"why did you get tackled by a static cone at football training last week?" |
The issue for me isn't that he had a privileged childhood (of course he did, as did lots of politicians), it's that he is utterly unable to relate to normal people, or as you say to think on his feet.
He is hopeless at being a politician. |  |
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| Poor little rishi on 12:02 - Jun 12 with 3002 views | _clive_baker_ |
It's an odd comment for him to come out with, very desperate attempt to seem like 'one of the people' as much as possible, while we all know how far removed he is from that. We see it across all parties in an attempt to be relatable, apparently Starmer's dad was a toolmaker, I'm surprised he hasn't mentioned that.
That said I do feel quite passionately about not judging people on what they're born in to. He had no say in it, in the same respect anyone at the other end of the societal wealth spectrum didn't either. Its important to judge people on their actions and how they conduct themselves. In his case, he's a complete flop of a PM leading a complete flop of a party that will rightly be obliterated at the GE. |  | | |
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| Poor little rishi on 12:09 - Jun 12 with 2962 views | Wacko |
| Poor little rishi on 11:46 - Jun 12 by soupytwist |
While I don't doubt the potential, and actual, psychological harm inflicted by sending an 8 year old to boarding school, Stroud Prep that Sunak attended at that age is non-boarding.
Winchester College, where he went afterwards is a boarding school and the youngest pupils there are 13. [Post edited 12 Jun 2024 11:48]
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True, but even at 13, entering puberty, living in dorms with 12 other boys is tough. On most weekends Winchester doesn't even let you home for a night so you can only see your parents for a few hours on Sunday (if like Sunak you're lucky and they live nearby) | |
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| Poor little rishi on 12:11 - Jun 12 with 2941 views | chicoazul |
What’s the worst thing to do to your child if you have money, send them to private school or not let them have Sky? It’s actually a tough one. |  |
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| Poor little rishi on 13:13 - Jun 12 with 2762 views | stonojnr |
| Poor little rishi on 11:34 - Jun 12 by nodge_blue |
Considering sky tv when he was a child was £10 a month i doubt the lack of sky was due to financial constraints. |
It was about £250 for a box and the install though, which is about £800 in relative terms today.
Back when it was like £5 to watch Town
I might be older than Sunak but I do remember Sky was very much a luxury when it started, i think Sugar/Amstrad then flooded market with cheap boxes and installs and thats how it took off. But I'd never claim not having it meant you were somehow less privileged in your upbringing as a result. | | | |
| Poor little rishi on 13:29 - Jun 12 with 2702 views | mellowblue |
| Poor little rishi on 13:13 - Jun 12 by stonojnr |
It was about £250 for a box and the install though, which is about £800 in relative terms today.
Back when it was like £5 to watch Town
I might be older than Sunak but I do remember Sky was very much a luxury when it started, i think Sugar/Amstrad then flooded market with cheap boxes and installs and thats how it took off. But I'd never claim not having it meant you were somehow less privileged in your upbringing as a result. |
We had 2 channels on our black and white tv evening to midnight service only and were probably lucky to have a tv. What you never had, you never missed.
Poor old Rish is trying so hard to be as one with the "common man", it is painful viewing. | | | |
| Poor little rishi on 13:43 - Jun 12 with 2643 views | Oldsmoker |
| Poor little rishi on 13:29 - Jun 12 by mellowblue |
We had 2 channels on our black and white tv evening to midnight service only and were probably lucky to have a tv. What you never had, you never missed.
Poor old Rish is trying so hard to be as one with the "common man", it is painful viewing. |
Luxury.
We used to huddle round the back of the TV to get the warmth from the valves. |  |
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| Poor little rishi on 15:11 - Jun 12 with 2516 views | Churchman |
| Poor little rishi on 13:43 - Jun 12 by Oldsmoker |
Luxury.
We used to huddle round the back of the TV to get the warmth from the valves. |
You were lucky!
We had to huddle round a single swan vesta match for the evening for warmth. Two matches would have been an extravagance. |  | | |
| Poor little rishi on 15:14 - Jun 12 with 2490 views | Rocky |
| Poor little rishi on 15:11 - Jun 12 by Churchman |
You were lucky!
We had to huddle round a single swan vesta match for the evening for warmth. Two matches would have been an extravagance. |
My dad used to suck a polo and we warmed our hands on his cheeks. |  | | |
| Poor little rishi on 15:19 - Jun 12 with 2464 views | Mercian |
| Poor little rishi on 13:29 - Jun 12 by mellowblue |
We had 2 channels on our black and white tv evening to midnight service only and were probably lucky to have a tv. What you never had, you never missed.
Poor old Rish is trying so hard to be as one with the "common man", it is painful viewing. |
My mum said exactly the same thing this morning and added she had had to make do with a transistor radio for her 11th birthday. My mum was born in 1951. That is what TV was like when she was a little girl and transistor radios in the early 60s were at the forefront of technology. I was bought up in a relatively privileged skilled working class background and was lucky enough to get a ZX Spectrum for Xmas 82. It was amazing. 40 odd years on a smart phone is more powerful than a Spectrum, all the Spectrums ever built combined that is. Technology moves one. [Post edited 12 Jun 2024 15:25]
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| Poor little rishi on 15:42 - Jun 12 with 2413 views | Churchman |
With regard to Boarding School, I did a short spell of it at the end of my school time so know what it looks like - well the 70s version anyway. For me, because I was 17 when I went (my dad’s job moved them away), it was ok.
The boarding house was an old rambling Victorian building. Heating hit and miss, food terrible (ever drunk tepid scrambled egg from a mug?), wooden floors with rugs and curfew times - later for us older boys. As prefects, we would oversee (rota) the younger boys while they did their homework and looked after quite a lot of the discipline. In return they’d clean your shoes/take your laundry to where it was dealt with and other odd jobs.
There was a tv with a terrible reception in a damp old room in the basement. Sofas with stuffing coming out, faded rugs, peeling paint, a damp feel - but it was comfy.
It was a hard environment but a very inclusive one. If somebody had a problem, the older lads would sort it out. Nobody in the boarding houses were bullied! In terms of seeing family, we didn’t. Half term sometimes, end of term. The boys’ parents were military, diplomatic or moved away like mine.
For me, I retained my ‘day boy’ chums and added the lads from the boarding house plus the others from the other two houses. How I managed A Levels at all with that social life was a miracle. You were allowed one possession. Mine was my racing bike. My transport. Another lad had a record player and two records. A Stevie Wonder album and Aladdin Sane. I still like them to this day.
Some of the younger boys (youngest age 11) got terribly homesick, despite the excellent, lovely wife of the housemaster, but by and large everyone got on. I would not advocate it for anyone under the age of 14. And for some boys, it just doesn’t work.
For many though it’s a reasonably positive experience. I learned an awful lot, especially in terms of how to live with others. | | | |
| Poor little rishi on 15:45 - Jun 12 with 2394 views | Zx1988 |
I'm hoping that somewhere in the offices of the Mirror/Guardian, a junior reporter is searching through local authority records for the early 90s, about to discover that the only reason the Sunaks didn't have Sky was because the Listed Buildings Officer wouldn't give them Listed Building Consent for the dish. | |
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| Poor little rishi on 16:29 - Jun 12 with 2332 views | mellowblue |
| Poor little rishi on 15:42 - Jun 12 by Churchman |
With regard to Boarding School, I did a short spell of it at the end of my school time so know what it looks like - well the 70s version anyway. For me, because I was 17 when I went (my dad’s job moved them away), it was ok.
The boarding house was an old rambling Victorian building. Heating hit and miss, food terrible (ever drunk tepid scrambled egg from a mug?), wooden floors with rugs and curfew times - later for us older boys. As prefects, we would oversee (rota) the younger boys while they did their homework and looked after quite a lot of the discipline. In return they’d clean your shoes/take your laundry to where it was dealt with and other odd jobs.
There was a tv with a terrible reception in a damp old room in the basement. Sofas with stuffing coming out, faded rugs, peeling paint, a damp feel - but it was comfy.
It was a hard environment but a very inclusive one. If somebody had a problem, the older lads would sort it out. Nobody in the boarding houses were bullied! In terms of seeing family, we didn’t. Half term sometimes, end of term. The boys’ parents were military, diplomatic or moved away like mine.
For me, I retained my ‘day boy’ chums and added the lads from the boarding house plus the others from the other two houses. How I managed A Levels at all with that social life was a miracle. You were allowed one possession. Mine was my racing bike. My transport. Another lad had a record player and two records. A Stevie Wonder album and Aladdin Sane. I still like them to this day.
Some of the younger boys (youngest age 11) got terribly homesick, despite the excellent, lovely wife of the housemaster, but by and large everyone got on. I would not advocate it for anyone under the age of 14. And for some boys, it just doesn’t work.
For many though it’s a reasonably positive experience. I learned an awful lot, especially in terms of how to live with others. |
Bit of a mirror of some of my school life. They do say that the best preparation for the army or prison-life is a boarding school. You have to be pretty self-reliant and know how to mix in with people and whatever is going on. | | | |
| Poor little rishi on 17:05 - Jun 12 with 2261 views | _clive_baker_ |
| Poor little rishi on 11:32 - Jun 12 by Wacko |
I'm anti-Tory and anti-Sunak, but as someone who went to boarding school from the age of 8, I can assure you it's psychologically brutal in the long term. The Sunaks absolutely didn't have to make any financial sacrifices like millions of people have to do on a daily basis, but in order to maintain a high level of wealth you still need to make society / family sacrifices, which includes buying into this nonsense notion then sending your kid away for half a year each year will "make them into a man" - whereas in reality it's to allow your parents to focus on making even more money. In summary, the patriarchal system is rotten, but it's not just the poor who suffer. |
Alright Tom Brown.
TBH I make you right. I didn't go to boarding school, but I was a day student at a private school that had some boarders. Mostly international and kept themselves to themselves really, even at the time at a young age I recognised how difficult it must've been for them. 10 year olds packed off overseas to school, it blows my mind really. As a parent now I can't comprehend that. [Post edited 12 Jun 2024 17:07]
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| Poor little rishi on 17:16 - Jun 12 with 2215 views | mutters |
That was probably a better way to spend their money considering where he has got to [Post edited 12 Jun 2024 17:17]
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| Poor little rishi on 17:27 - Jun 12 with 2175 views | Churchman |
| Poor little rishi on 17:05 - Jun 12 by _clive_baker_ |
Alright Tom Brown.
TBH I make you right. I didn't go to boarding school, but I was a day student at a private school that had some boarders. Mostly international and kept themselves to themselves really, even at the time at a young age I recognised how difficult it must've been for them. 10 year olds packed off overseas to school, it blows my mind really. As a parent now I can't comprehend that. [Post edited 12 Jun 2024 17:07]
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It’s amazing how children adjust though. It’s a different world now, but then it was accepted. Military and diplomatic kids were used to it/accepted it. For reasons I won’t bore the forum with I wasn’t at home a great deal from age 16 and that was absolutely fine with me. I’d first travelled abroad on my own at 14 and loved independence for as long as I could ever remember.
Times change. In this respect - probably for the better. | | | |
| Poor little rishi on 17:31 - Jun 12 with 2160 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Poor little rishi on 11:49 - Jun 12 by Mercian |
It's about entitlement and disconnection with reality . It's similar to when Trump was given a "Small financial gift" of $1,000,000 from his father on becoming an adult in the 1960s. Rishi wants to portray that he had a hard childhood when he actually had a privileged one. |
Indeed.
He was asserting that he knew what it was like to go without out, and when pushed, this was his best example. He genuinely appears not to realise how privileged he has been and what reall life is like for many decent people. | | | |
| Poor little rishi on 18:19 - Jun 12 with 2065 views | mellowblue |
| Poor little rishi on 17:27 - Jun 12 by Churchman |
It’s amazing how children adjust though. It’s a different world now, but then it was accepted. Military and diplomatic kids were used to it/accepted it. For reasons I won’t bore the forum with I wasn’t at home a great deal from age 16 and that was absolutely fine with me. I’d first travelled abroad on my own at 14 and loved independence for as long as I could ever remember.
Times change. In this respect - probably for the better. |
I wouldn't wish it on children today, but I enjoyed it, but found home life too constrained. Probably became too independant to adhere to family life and rules. | | | |
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