Elephant's now pitched up on the Star website 11:36 - Jun 28 with 8654 views | hype313 | Rupert Bear 3 hrs ago One for the miss column - of which there are rather more than a few given the right on stats-led approach of the gnomes sitting at the revolving door. All very well when they are jobbing footballers at the fag end of the league where the franchise successfully money doped their way upward - but the franchise is now shopping for overpaid, overindulged mercenaries expecting what might euphemistically called a minimum of half a Kieran just to turn up. As that expert in club destruction you interviewed the other day might have told you a sub 50% success rate is not just ruinously expensive - it threatens the clubs added value and has the aging prog rocker reaching for his ulcer medication. |  |
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Elephant's now pitched up on the Star website on 19:59 - Jun 28 with 1274 views | wkj |
Elephant's now pitched up on the Star website on 19:47 - Jun 28 by FullerFlavour | Ah....Pundit/Rupert....my number one fan on the EADT website for nine months of the year. Usual recurrence on a weekly basis = Column goes live, Rupert trolls often within the hour, and is offensive. Then repeats for the other EADT writers and columnist too. To want to live a life like this is just so sad, especially knowing what I do about him now... |
Excellent work last year, I thought your article on McKenna was a great read and possibly galvanised the town fans who were starting to get very tetchy about KM. |  |
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Elephant's now pitched up on the Star website on 20:01 - Jun 28 with 1263 views | FullerFlavour |
Elephant's now pitched up on the Star website on 19:59 - Jun 28 by wkj | Excellent work last year, I thought your article on McKenna was a great read and possibly galvanised the town fans who were starting to get very tetchy about KM. |
Thank you. Much appreciated. |  | |  |
Elephant's now pitched up on the Star website on 20:05 - Jun 28 with 1236 views | DecageBruce | They are definitely (imo) the same poster that used to post in ‘pundit’ or something involving pundit. Hold on to a few key phrase (eg, ‘franchise’ in this case amongst others) and relates the to and repeats them in every comment. |  | |  |
He knows exactly what he's doing on 20:28 - Jun 28 with 1194 views | Bigalhunter |
He knows exactly what he's doing on 14:19 - Jun 28 by Steve_M | Yes, he is seemingly unable to take any pleasure from two excellent seasons but there is also a thing with a lot of Town fans at the moment whereby, because things are going so well in general, then any criticism is unwelcome. The Norwich fiasco and the post-season seat moves being two cases in point. Our transfer record post-takeover has also been far more mixed than many allow. |
He’s sort of turned into a guilty pleasure for me. I know he’s not going to have anything positive to say, but if I’m prepared for a dose of misery and pessimism, I love the way he puts it into words. He’ll have no effect on the way things ultimately pan out at PR and it doesn’t dampen, for me anyway, the utter childlike joy of the last two seasons. My wife told me the other day that, if she had a pound for every time she heard me say ‘Do you know what, I think we’re actually gonna fckin do this’ she’d have enough money to dump me for a younger, fitter version. [Post edited 28 Jun 2024 20:40]
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He knows exactly what he's doing on 20:45 - Jun 28 with 1153 views | Trequartista |
He knows exactly what he's doing on 14:18 - Jun 28 by ITFC_Forever | Voice of Reason is the one you're missing... |
There was another one before that something like NoxiousOpinion |  |
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He knows exactly what he's doing on 22:04 - Jun 28 with 1069 views | Vegtablue |
He knows exactly what he's doing on 19:52 - Jun 28 by Ryorry | That would certainly explain a lot, if correct. |
Current model clubs… by ElephantintheRoom 1 Jun 2023 16:42I think ‘business model’ is part of the problem - football should be a competitive sport. So the problem lies with the way football has been hijacked by spivs, opportunists, gangsters and oil states - and is no longer a competitive sport.
When Sheepshanks destroyed the club I argued for a fan ownership type model à la Barcelona. At the time there were one or two wealthy individuals on the board who could have helped get that off the ground. The risible response to the ill-thought out share issue put the kibosh on that - and Sheepshanks was anxious to get his money back - so the club became what I çan only presume was a money-laundering vehicle. Now it’s a franchise - fronted by a couple of professional football parasites dusting down the model flogged to Bristol City. I
I don’t think you have to look too far for the way to run a local football club. Cambridge United and Luton have both effectively been saved from rogue ownership by fan ownership. Luton even managed to be a tad ethical and ignore the betting shilling on the way back
I don’t think the Cobbolds put any money in - quite the contrary they saw themselves as custodians of the club. I seem to remember the shares were sort of in a trust. to my mind some benevolent local businessmen made a far better ‘front of house’ than some owners who aren’t really the owners - let alone the gurning head honcho who looks and sounds like a comedy character.
Some people seem quite pleased with what the club has become - kind of depends when you became invested in the club I guess. I’m rooted in the 60s - the music was better then too. I've very likely embellished his involvement but this is the thread. He engages with others in this one, rather than just leaving a dump. Honestly I sympathise with much of his position, just not the choice to post 💩 through the letterbox most days since the divorce well over a decade ago. That's oddball behaviour. |  | |  |
He knows exactly what he's doing on 22:39 - Jun 28 with 1016 views | Churchman |
He knows exactly what he's doing on 22:04 - Jun 28 by Vegtablue | Current model clubs… by ElephantintheRoom 1 Jun 2023 16:42I think ‘business model’ is part of the problem - football should be a competitive sport. So the problem lies with the way football has been hijacked by spivs, opportunists, gangsters and oil states - and is no longer a competitive sport.
When Sheepshanks destroyed the club I argued for a fan ownership type model à la Barcelona. At the time there were one or two wealthy individuals on the board who could have helped get that off the ground. The risible response to the ill-thought out share issue put the kibosh on that - and Sheepshanks was anxious to get his money back - so the club became what I çan only presume was a money-laundering vehicle. Now it’s a franchise - fronted by a couple of professional football parasites dusting down the model flogged to Bristol City. I
I don’t think you have to look too far for the way to run a local football club. Cambridge United and Luton have both effectively been saved from rogue ownership by fan ownership. Luton even managed to be a tad ethical and ignore the betting shilling on the way back
I don’t think the Cobbolds put any money in - quite the contrary they saw themselves as custodians of the club. I seem to remember the shares were sort of in a trust. to my mind some benevolent local businessmen made a far better ‘front of house’ than some owners who aren’t really the owners - let alone the gurning head honcho who looks and sounds like a comedy character.
Some people seem quite pleased with what the club has become - kind of depends when you became invested in the club I guess. I’m rooted in the 60s - the music was better then too. I've very likely embellished his involvement but this is the thread. He engages with others in this one, rather than just leaving a dump. Honestly I sympathise with much of his position, just not the choice to post 💩 through the letterbox most days since the divorce well over a decade ago. That's oddball behaviour. |
I challenged several aspects of this post in 2023. I thought it was full of holes and still do. Interesting that Cambridge are put on a pedestal. Luton too, who were light years ahead of us while CU were just in the league below. A year on? Well CU just avoided relegation, Luton didn’t. Crumbling a bit, that pedestal? Utopian incorrect visions of how football and indeed society was in the ‘good ole days’ is great - for dreams. Football today is what it is. Few bar the big six like the way it operates, but we have no control or say over that. Our club has striven, with great support from the owners, to be as good as it can be. Sometimes you have to take and enjoy what’s there for as long as it lasts. I’ve enjoyed the best two seasons since Burley’s time and an individual that seems to offer nothing but relentless negativity won’t change that. My only regret is that my dad was not able to see it. [Post edited 28 Jun 2024 22:42]
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He knows exactly what he's doing on 22:49 - Jun 28 with 982 views | wkj |
He knows exactly what he's doing on 22:39 - Jun 28 by Churchman | I challenged several aspects of this post in 2023. I thought it was full of holes and still do. Interesting that Cambridge are put on a pedestal. Luton too, who were light years ahead of us while CU were just in the league below. A year on? Well CU just avoided relegation, Luton didn’t. Crumbling a bit, that pedestal? Utopian incorrect visions of how football and indeed society was in the ‘good ole days’ is great - for dreams. Football today is what it is. Few bar the big six like the way it operates, but we have no control or say over that. Our club has striven, with great support from the owners, to be as good as it can be. Sometimes you have to take and enjoy what’s there for as long as it lasts. I’ve enjoyed the best two seasons since Burley’s time and an individual that seems to offer nothing but relentless negativity won’t change that. My only regret is that my dad was not able to see it. [Post edited 28 Jun 2024 22:42]
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There is a lot about modern day football ownership that is scary, for example, what comes after GC20. However, to turn it all in on Ipswich Town is the biggest hole there is - its the state of the game. I think a fan consortium would have been a disaster for town after Sheepshanks and moreso after Evans, owing to the fact on both occasions we needed some serious financial / infrastructure gaps to be filled. Right now we seem to have a board who are aware there is a disdain towards betting companies being sponsor, and who understand that our infrastructure improvements can add a hell of a lot of value to the club both on and off the field. We have it hell of a lot better than other clubs who have had erratic ownership, and this is why I think we are blessed, even if the anxiety of the sell-on date is there in the shadows. Coventry, Blackburn, Sheffield Wednesday and Reading are clubs that come to mind who are recovering or injured because of crap ownership and to this end I thank our lucky stars that "The Franchise of Cowboys and Indians" chose Suffolk to land on. |  |
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He knows exactly what he's doing on 23:07 - Jun 28 with 952 views | Churchman |
He knows exactly what he's doing on 22:49 - Jun 28 by wkj | There is a lot about modern day football ownership that is scary, for example, what comes after GC20. However, to turn it all in on Ipswich Town is the biggest hole there is - its the state of the game. I think a fan consortium would have been a disaster for town after Sheepshanks and moreso after Evans, owing to the fact on both occasions we needed some serious financial / infrastructure gaps to be filled. Right now we seem to have a board who are aware there is a disdain towards betting companies being sponsor, and who understand that our infrastructure improvements can add a hell of a lot of value to the club both on and off the field. We have it hell of a lot better than other clubs who have had erratic ownership, and this is why I think we are blessed, even if the anxiety of the sell-on date is there in the shadows. Coventry, Blackburn, Sheffield Wednesday and Reading are clubs that come to mind who are recovering or injured because of crap ownership and to this end I thank our lucky stars that "The Franchise of Cowboys and Indians" chose Suffolk to land on. |
Yes, what happens when the owners move on is a big concern. When GC20 turned up I wondered if they were for real. Was there anything behind the talk? If there was, my hope was they’d rebuild at least some of the infrastructure of the club and elevate it to the point where the likelihood of going down to even lower leagues/out of business was reduced. I didn’t care where the money came from or what their interest was. My club was in intensive care. It became clear in no time they were organised, serious, had a plan and actually some strong ethics. It is clear even now that when they move on this club will be in a different place to Feb 2021. Am I concerned about who next? Yes. But not today or tomorrow. We’ve just seen the most remarkable of seasons. I’m struggling still to get my head around it. I watched Hutchinson’s highlight reel. That alone was more exciting than anything and everything I saw all the way back to 2001, bar Shefki’s celebration! How can you put a price on that? Sometimes you have to seize the moment. |  | |  |
Elephant's now pitched up on the Star website on 06:54 - Jun 29 with 851 views | BlueandTruesince82 | How dies this get to 3 pages? |  |
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He knows exactly what he's doing on 16:38 - Jun 29 with 717 views | Sharkey |
He knows exactly what he's doing on 22:39 - Jun 28 by Churchman | I challenged several aspects of this post in 2023. I thought it was full of holes and still do. Interesting that Cambridge are put on a pedestal. Luton too, who were light years ahead of us while CU were just in the league below. A year on? Well CU just avoided relegation, Luton didn’t. Crumbling a bit, that pedestal? Utopian incorrect visions of how football and indeed society was in the ‘good ole days’ is great - for dreams. Football today is what it is. Few bar the big six like the way it operates, but we have no control or say over that. Our club has striven, with great support from the owners, to be as good as it can be. Sometimes you have to take and enjoy what’s there for as long as it lasts. I’ve enjoyed the best two seasons since Burley’s time and an individual that seems to offer nothing but relentless negativity won’t change that. My only regret is that my dad was not able to see it. [Post edited 28 Jun 2024 22:42]
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I don't see that Luton's 'pedestal has crumbled' at all in the last year. |  | |  |
He knows exactly what he's doing on 17:28 - Jun 29 with 641 views | Churchman |
He knows exactly what he's doing on 16:38 - Jun 29 by Sharkey | I don't see that Luton's 'pedestal has crumbled' at all in the last year. |
Fine. Maybe it hasn’t. But are they in as good a place as 12 months ago? More importantly, as they prepare for life in the Championship, would you swap places with them? |  | |  |
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