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Elephant's now pitched up on the Star website 11:36 - Jun 28 with 9016 viewshype313

Rupert Bear
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One for the miss column - of which there are rather more than a few given the right on stats-led approach of the gnomes sitting at the revolving door. All very well when they are jobbing footballers at the fag end of the league where the franchise successfully money doped their way upward - but the franchise is now shopping for overpaid, overindulged mercenaries expecting what might euphemistically called a minimum of half a Kieran just to turn up. As that expert in club destruction you interviewed the other day might have told you a sub 50% success rate is not just ruinously expensive - it threatens the clubs added value and has the aging prog rocker reaching for his ulcer medication.

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Elephant's now pitched up on the Star website on 14:08 - Jun 28 with 2588 viewshomer_123

Elephant's now pitched up on the Star website on 14:04 - Jun 28 by MK1

He's harmless.


If tedious.

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He knows exactly what he's doing on 14:13 - Jun 28 with 2575 viewsDyland

He knows exactly what he's doing on 13:52 - Jun 28 by Churchman

Agree entirely. Not one optimistic or happy post about anything ever. Nothing. It’s depressing.

I freely admit that I bite more than I should. I do not share his view of the past or the present and doubt he’s an ITFC follower. There’s enough information out there to write on any aspect of the club, past or present, without being a supporter, in my view.


He is, or rather was, an ITFC supporter. This is an unequivocal fact. He's been posting here for well over twenty years and was most vocal about administration and local businesses being screwed.

Whether his M/O is enervating, annoying, depressing or not is of course subjective, I get that.

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He knows exactly what he's doing on 14:17 - Jun 28 with 2570 viewsSteve_M

He knows exactly what he's doing on 12:51 - Jun 28 by Dyland

It's part genuine anger and righteous bitterness towards the modern game, framed by ITFC's admin etc., and part trolling. I don't really understand the levels of annoyance he receives tbh.

I doubt that Star poster is the same person. Nerdy is more articulate and less abusive.
[Post edited 28 Jun 2024 12:59]


Yeah, a genuine frustration with the modern game taken to an extreme position. It's fairly easy to tell which posts from him contain at least a kernel of truth and which don't too.

Nerdy Know All/ Pundit/ Elephant....

I'm sure there's another one in there I can't remember at the moment.

(And Newmy was definitely not the same person).

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He knows exactly what he's doing on 14:18 - Jun 28 with 2560 viewsITFC_Forever

He knows exactly what he's doing on 14:17 - Jun 28 by Steve_M

Yeah, a genuine frustration with the modern game taken to an extreme position. It's fairly easy to tell which posts from him contain at least a kernel of truth and which don't too.

Nerdy Know All/ Pundit/ Elephant....

I'm sure there's another one in there I can't remember at the moment.

(And Newmy was definitely not the same person).


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He knows exactly what he's doing on 14:19 - Jun 28 with 2555 viewsSteve_M

He knows exactly what he's doing on 13:13 - Jun 28 by Ryorry

"I don't really understand the levels of annoyance he receives tbh."

It's because he posts nothing but negativity re ITFC, regularly - not one single positive thing ever, despite this being the best time we've had in over 20 years. You can start the day feeling top of the world about that - then read one of his posts & immediately find yourself groaning, & mood lowered. He's a drag-you-down.


Yes, he is seemingly unable to take any pleasure from two excellent seasons but there is also a thing with a lot of Town fans at the moment whereby, because things are going so well in general, then any criticism is unwelcome.

The Norwich fiasco and the post-season seat moves being two cases in point. Our transfer record post-takeover has also been far more mixed than many allow.

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He knows exactly what he's doing on 14:25 - Jun 28 with 2528 viewshomer_123

He knows exactly what he's doing on 14:19 - Jun 28 by Steve_M

Yes, he is seemingly unable to take any pleasure from two excellent seasons but there is also a thing with a lot of Town fans at the moment whereby, because things are going so well in general, then any criticism is unwelcome.

The Norwich fiasco and the post-season seat moves being two cases in point. Our transfer record post-takeover has also been far more mixed than many allow.


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Elephant's now pitched up on the Star website on 15:20 - Jun 28 with 2436 viewsSheffordBlue

Elephant's now pitched up on the Star website on 12:00 - Jun 28 by MattinLondon

He hasn’t been banned as he isn’t at all abusive.


Not abusive but some of his comments, particularly the ones using terms such as 'Ponzi scheme' are sailing close to the wind of being libellous. If these comments were to be an article in a newspaper you would imagine the owners would probably be asking their lawyers to have a look.

You can argue whether this countries libel laws are too strict or not but as the law stands I think some of what he posts about specific people within the club are very close to the current mark.

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He knows exactly what he's doing on 15:28 - Jun 28 with 2406 viewsEwan_Oozami

He knows exactly what he's doing on 14:13 - Jun 28 by Dyland

He is, or rather was, an ITFC supporter. This is an unequivocal fact. He's been posting here for well over twenty years and was most vocal about administration and local businesses being screwed.

Whether his M/O is enervating, annoying, depressing or not is of course subjective, I get that.


I know quite a few people suffered big hits to their small businesses when we went into administration, and people felt that the club should have been more community-minded and prioritised paying local businesses over national corporations (was never going to happen though) - maybe Elephant's one of those? I'm sure there were a couple of posters on here at the time who were affected?

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He knows exactly what he's doing on 15:58 - Jun 28 with 2344 viewsVegtablue

He knows exactly what he's doing on 14:13 - Jun 28 by Dyland

He is, or rather was, an ITFC supporter. This is an unequivocal fact. He's been posting here for well over twenty years and was most vocal about administration and local businesses being screwed.

Whether his M/O is enervating, annoying, depressing or not is of course subjective, I get that.


I (maybe mistakenly) recall him writing recently-ish about his involvement in an alternative ownership bid around the mid-2000s, either some time before or in direct challenge to the Evans takeover, and that he's disliked the club ever since.
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Elephant's now pitched up on the Star website on 16:05 - Jun 28 with 2325 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Elephant's now pitched up on the Star website on 12:00 - Jun 28 by MattinLondon

He hasn’t been banned as he isn’t at all abusive.


Except towards McKenna, the players, the owners and pretty much anything positive about the club!

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He knows exactly what he's doing on 16:12 - Jun 28 with 2307 viewsMattinLondon

He knows exactly what he's doing on 15:58 - Jun 28 by Vegtablue

I (maybe mistakenly) recall him writing recently-ish about his involvement in an alternative ownership bid around the mid-2000s, either some time before or in direct challenge to the Evans takeover, and that he's disliked the club ever since.


Quite a long sulk then.
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Elephant's now pitched up on the Star website on 16:18 - Jun 28 with 2295 viewsKropotkin123

Elephant's now pitched up on the Star website on 12:08 - Jun 28 by Cheltenham_Blue

Still a troll.


They have -971 votes. Hopefully Gav has scripted auto banning at -1000.

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He knows exactly what he's doing on 16:27 - Jun 28 with 2278 viewsDyland

He knows exactly what he's doing on 15:28 - Jun 28 by Ewan_Oozami

I know quite a few people suffered big hits to their small businesses when we went into administration, and people felt that the club should have been more community-minded and prioritised paying local businesses over national corporations (was never going to happen though) - maybe Elephant's one of those? I'm sure there were a couple of posters on here at the time who were affected?


When the supporters shares were diluted to zilch recently it reminded me of the people screwed by administration, which was far worse of course. Business innit, and a reminder that professional football is purely that. The balance between an industry driven by fan passion and mere spectacle is at a tipping point...

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He knows exactly what he's doing on 16:29 - Jun 28 with 2266 viewsEwan_Oozami

He knows exactly what he's doing on 15:58 - Jun 28 by Vegtablue

I (maybe mistakenly) recall him writing recently-ish about his involvement in an alternative ownership bid around the mid-2000s, either some time before or in direct challenge to the Evans takeover, and that he's disliked the club ever since.


Ah, yes, that might be what I remember!!!

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He knows exactly what he's doing on 16:45 - Jun 28 with 2230 viewsMattinLondon

He knows exactly what he's doing on 16:27 - Jun 28 by Dyland

When the supporters shares were diluted to zilch recently it reminded me of the people screwed by administration, which was far worse of course. Business innit, and a reminder that professional football is purely that. The balance between an industry driven by fan passion and mere spectacle is at a tipping point...


I might well be wrong but don’t people invest to make a profit? If that what those local businesses were hoping for then I have no sympathy. Play the market and you could get burnt.

If this isn’t what happened then apologies as I can’t remember the circumstances behind it.
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He knows exactly what he's doing on 16:55 - Jun 28 with 2201 viewsChurchman

He knows exactly what he's doing on 14:19 - Jun 28 by Steve_M

Yes, he is seemingly unable to take any pleasure from two excellent seasons but there is also a thing with a lot of Town fans at the moment whereby, because things are going so well in general, then any criticism is unwelcome.

The Norwich fiasco and the post-season seat moves being two cases in point. Our transfer record post-takeover has also been far more mixed than many allow.


I don’t think there is any link between what I presume you are suggesting are ‘happy clapper’ Town fans and Elephant bloke. He was criticising the owners of the club from practically the day they took over. ‘Debt peddlers’ etc.

I also don’t see any ITFC fans criticising the club’s actions as unwelcome at all. People are entitled to their opinions and there’s plenty more to query than the two examples you give. But against whatever grievances people may have has to be weighed context, alternatives or lack of them, fact against guesswork and assumption.

A lot has happened to ITFC in three years. They will not have got everything right. The only people that have a 100% record in getting stuff right are those that do nothing. By and large, the club has got more right than wrong and actually, that includes transfers. They’ve made mistakes on that front, but so has every club since time began. It’s the nature of the beast.

There is an awful lot to take pleasure from in the past three years. If people can’t then maybe football is not for them. If, for whatever reason, they view literally everything in an entirely negative way fine. That’s for them to enjoy. I just find reading it year in year out unnecessary.
[Post edited 28 Jun 2024 16:56]
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Elephant's now pitched up on the Star website on 16:57 - Jun 28 with 2197 viewswkj

Elephant's now pitched up on the Star website on 12:00 - Jun 28 by MattinLondon

He hasn’t been banned as he isn’t at all abusive.


Jack Lankaster by ElephantintheRoom 28 Jun 2024 8:20
A certain degree of determination was needed to break through Town’s indifference to their own youth ´system’. The one who stands out for me is Flynn Downes - sent to Luton rather than given a chance and head butted (allegedly) out of the revolving door.

I was having a drink at a pub in Duxford with some friends a few years back and a young bloke and his dad joined us. Turned out it was a certain now ex Town protégée and his dad who mentioned that they’d just had to pay for the operation that a specialist recommended - with Town picking up the bill if it worked. He was one of three players who had had to pay for their own healthcare - which is perhaps a stark example of how far wrong Town went… it wasn’t just a lack of white paint for the pitches.

I don’t think many of the current bunch of glory seekers care overmuch about home grown players. Hence the excitement around yet more signings.



Maybe not abusive, but offensive is a matter of opinion. Calling the current crop of fans "glory hunters" is something that irks me as the club are trying to rebuild their ties to the supporters and a new generation.

Personally, I wouldn't miss seeing them on a vacation if this 'glory hunters' rhetoric continues.

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Nope on 17:34 - Jun 28 with 2131 viewsDyland

He knows exactly what he's doing on 16:45 - Jun 28 by MattinLondon

I might well be wrong but don’t people invest to make a profit? If that what those local businesses were hoping for then I have no sympathy. Play the market and you could get burnt.

If this isn’t what happened then apologies as I can’t remember the circumstances behind it.


It was local suppliers who were screwed on outstanding payments, as they weren't first in line creditors, like staff etc. I'm not suggesting these businesses should have been first in line with the administrators, of course, but that's another topic!

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Put him on ignore Churchers! on 17:36 - Jun 28 with 2129 viewsDyland

He knows exactly what he's doing on 16:55 - Jun 28 by Churchman

I don’t think there is any link between what I presume you are suggesting are ‘happy clapper’ Town fans and Elephant bloke. He was criticising the owners of the club from practically the day they took over. ‘Debt peddlers’ etc.

I also don’t see any ITFC fans criticising the club’s actions as unwelcome at all. People are entitled to their opinions and there’s plenty more to query than the two examples you give. But against whatever grievances people may have has to be weighed context, alternatives or lack of them, fact against guesswork and assumption.

A lot has happened to ITFC in three years. They will not have got everything right. The only people that have a 100% record in getting stuff right are those that do nothing. By and large, the club has got more right than wrong and actually, that includes transfers. They’ve made mistakes on that front, but so has every club since time began. It’s the nature of the beast.

There is an awful lot to take pleasure from in the past three years. If people can’t then maybe football is not for them. If, for whatever reason, they view literally everything in an entirely negative way fine. That’s for them to enjoy. I just find reading it year in year out unnecessary.
[Post edited 28 Jun 2024 16:56]


Nerdy (elephantman), not Steve :)

I like reading his posts tbh.

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He knows exactly what he's doing on 17:43 - Jun 28 with 2104 viewsOldsmoker

He knows exactly what he's doing on 14:13 - Jun 28 by Dyland

He is, or rather was, an ITFC supporter. This is an unequivocal fact. He's been posting here for well over twenty years and was most vocal about administration and local businesses being screwed.

Whether his M/O is enervating, annoying, depressing or not is of course subjective, I get that.


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Elephant's now pitched up on the Star website on 17:43 - Jun 28 with 2097 viewsKieran_Knows

Legend.

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Put him on ignore Churchers! on 18:06 - Jun 28 with 2053 viewsChurchman

Put him on ignore Churchers! on 17:36 - Jun 28 by Dyland

Nerdy (elephantman), not Steve :)

I like reading his posts tbh.


I’m confused now! I like Steve’s posts too. Always interesting.
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Elephant's now pitched up on the Star website on 19:44 - Jun 28 with 1976 viewsEireannach_gorm

Elephant's now pitched up on the Star website on 11:39 - Jun 28 by CaptainAhab

Well that's quite the word salad


Clearly AI generated.
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Elephant's now pitched up on the Star website on 19:47 - Jun 28 with 1961 viewsFullerFlavour

Ah....Pundit/Rupert....my number one fan on the EADT website for nine months of the year. Usual recurrence on a weekly basis = Column goes live, Rupert trolls often within the hour, and is offensive.

Then repeats for the other EADT writers and columnist too.

To want to live a life like this is just so sad, especially knowing what I do about him now...
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He knows exactly what he's doing on 19:52 - Jun 28 with 1950 viewsRyorry

He knows exactly what he's doing on 15:58 - Jun 28 by Vegtablue

I (maybe mistakenly) recall him writing recently-ish about his involvement in an alternative ownership bid around the mid-2000s, either some time before or in direct challenge to the Evans takeover, and that he's disliked the club ever since.


That would certainly explain a lot, if correct.

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