| Plot twist.. coming here again now … couldn’t make it up 11:05 - Jul 9 with 4349 views | ipswichtillidie |
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| Plot twist.. coming here again now … couldn’t make it up on 11:06 - Jul 9 with 3942 views | itfckenty |
I want to shoot myself in the head. haha |  | | |
| Plot twist.. coming here again now … couldn’t make it up on 11:08 - Jul 9 with 3865 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
hahahaha.
This is a belter |  |
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| Plot twist.. coming here again now … couldn’t make it up on 11:09 - Jul 9 with 3825 views | itfcjoe |
Hull want to sell him to us, and us only because of the double deal |  |
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| Plot twist.. coming here again now … couldn’t make it up on 11:09 - Jul 9 with 3813 views | LankHenners |
So essentially the Hull lot think he's coming here, the Everton guys think he's going to them, and we just have to sit and wait for all this nonsense to blow over. |  |
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| Plot twist.. coming here again now … couldn’t make it up on 11:11 - Jul 9 with 3740 views | ipswichtillidie |
| Plot twist.. coming here again now … couldn’t make it up on 11:06 - Jul 9 by itfckenty |
I want to shoot myself in the head. haha |
Much like Phil said. Everything coming from the Hull side is we are getting him. Everything from Philogenes side (agent) is Everton are. Hull appear financially better off if we do the deal. With that in mind I do hope the player is 100% committed. Just speculation on my part obviously. | |
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| Plot twist.. coming here again now … couldn’t make it up on 11:11 - Jul 9 with 3717 views | Trequartista |
Seems obvious now that a £16m bid accepted wasn't true, if we've needed to bid £20m (Or however much the value is from the double deal - it's certainly more than £16m as Greaves is not £24m!) [Post edited 9 Jul 2024 11:12]
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| Plot twist.. coming here again now … couldn’t make it up on 11:12 - Jul 9 with 3649 views | DanTheMan |
Conspiracy: Phil is at the root of all these rumours to drive more clicks to TWTD. |  |
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| Plot twist.. coming here again now … couldn’t make it up on 11:12 - Jul 9 with 3624 views | Metal_Hacker |
Just had a read about Philogene’s move from Villa to Hull and to see how that concluded
I know it happens but low and behold “Southampton came in with a last minute bid but needed more time “
Just sounds like agent’s work once again to me |  |
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| Plot twist.. coming here again now … couldn’t make it up on 11:13 - Jul 9 with 3598 views | ipswichtillidie |
| Plot twist.. coming here again now … couldn’t make it up on 11:09 - Jul 9 by itfcjoe |
Hull want to sell him to us, and us only because of the double deal |
I do hope we can agree a deal for just Greaves if double falls through. He would be the key player in this deal imo. | |
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| Plot twist.. coming here again now … couldn’t make it up on 11:13 - Jul 9 with 3559 views | vilanovablue |
| Plot twist.. coming here again now … couldn’t make it up on 11:09 - Jul 9 by itfcjoe |
Hull want to sell him to us, and us only because of the double deal |
I have to say that whilst I having nothing to back it up that is my hunch too. |  | | |
| Plot twist.. coming here again now … couldn’t make it up on 11:14 - Jul 9 with 3503 views | Superblue95 |
| Plot twist.. coming here again now … couldn’t make it up on 11:09 - Jul 9 by itfcjoe |
Hull want to sell him to us, and us only because of the double deal |
Exactly. The double deal means Greaves fee can be inflated so that they don’t have to give Villa as much of a sell on fee and also Greaves classes as pure profit due to being from the academy |  |
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| Plot twist.. coming here again now … couldn’t make it up on 11:15 - Jul 9 with 3469 views | ITFCBlues |
| Plot twist.. coming here again now … couldn’t make it up on 11:09 - Jul 9 by itfcjoe |
Hull want to sell him to us, and us only because of the double deal |
Makes no sense that his agents going to Everton then? |  |
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| Plot twist.. coming here again now … couldn’t make it up on 11:16 - Jul 9 with 3418 views | portmanking |
| Plot twist.. coming here again now … couldn’t make it up on 11:15 - Jul 9 by ITFCBlues |
Makes no sense that his agents going to Everton then? |
Because *Hull* want to sell them to us. JP's agent can probably coin it in a bit more from Everton... |  | | |
| Plot twist.. coming here again now … couldn’t make it up on 11:17 - Jul 9 with 3353 views | itfckenty |
| Plot twist.. coming here again now … couldn’t make it up on 11:11 - Jul 9 by ipswichtillidie |
Much like Phil said. Everything coming from the Hull side is we are getting him. Everything from Philogenes side (agent) is Everton are. Hull appear financially better off if we do the deal. With that in mind I do hope the player is 100% committed. Just speculation on my part obviously. |
that's it, all smoke and daggers currently. aslong as he wants to wear our badge with pride. thats all that matters. | | | |
| Plot twist.. coming here again now … couldn’t make it up on 11:17 - Jul 9 with 3343 views | LankHenners |
| Plot twist.. coming here again now … couldn’t make it up on 11:15 - Jul 9 by ITFCBlues |
Makes no sense that his agents going to Everton then? |
Some internet sleuths saying the pictures of him there were taken a few days ago so could well be being posted now to try and create 'late drama' to force us to give Philogene (and therefore himself) a better deal. | |
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| Plot twist.. coming here again now … couldn’t make it up on 11:19 - Jul 9 with 3247 views | ipswichtillidie |
| Plot twist.. coming here again now … couldn’t make it up on 11:14 - Jul 9 by Superblue95 |
Exactly. The double deal means Greaves fee can be inflated so that they don’t have to give Villa as much of a sell on fee and also Greaves classes as pure profit due to being from the academy |
Yes this is the key. Clever by us but I do hope the player wants in here. Obviously he’s been spoken to by management. 16 million is interesting considering Hull sources are saying 40 (both) I suspect Hull need money for financial fair play reasons and are inflating the price to appease and justify sale to fans. [Post edited 9 Jul 2024 11:20]
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| Plot twist.. coming here again now … couldn’t make it up on 11:20 - Jul 9 with 3163 views | RegencyBlue |
| Plot twist.. coming here again now … couldn’t make it up on 11:12 - Jul 9 by Metal_Hacker |
Just had a read about Philogene’s move from Villa to Hull and to see how that concluded
I know it happens but low and behold “Southampton came in with a last minute bid but needed more time “
Just sounds like agent’s work once again to me |
I’ll use the same argument I used with the previous hoohah over McKenna, the agent works for the client and if the client isn’t happy with what the agent is doing then it doesn’t happen.
I might be in a minority here but I’m not getting the impression that the player is sold on coming to us in which case I d rather he didn’t! |  | | |
| Plot twist.. coming here again now … couldn’t make it up on 11:25 - Jul 9 with 2864 views | homer_123 |
| Plot twist.. coming here again now … couldn’t make it up on 11:20 - Jul 9 by RegencyBlue |
I’ll use the same argument I used with the previous hoohah over McKenna, the agent works for the client and if the client isn’t happy with what the agent is doing then it doesn’t happen.
I might be in a minority here but I’m not getting the impression that the player is sold on coming to us in which case I d rather he didn’t! |
There's absolutely nothing from the player to suggest he doesn't want to come here.
He has aspirations, which is fine. Because if he plays for us like he wants a move to Barca, that can only be a good thing for us. |  |
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| Plot twist.. coming here again now … couldn’t make it up on 11:29 - Jul 9 with 2724 views | ipswichtillidie |
| Plot twist.. coming here again now … couldn’t make it up on 11:25 - Jul 9 by homer_123 |
There's absolutely nothing from the player to suggest he doesn't want to come here.
He has aspirations, which is fine. Because if he plays for us like he wants a move to Barca, that can only be a good thing for us. |
I read it as he wants premier league football. Probably would prefer Everton, but Hull need the money. Double sale financially better for them. They can inflate Greaves price so smaller sell on to Villa. We are probably saying will only deal when both complete. Hence delay. Suspect he’ll come here in the end as Everton won’t agree a fee with Hull. Ultimately the selling club has the power. | |
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| Plot twist.. coming here again now … couldn’t make it up on 11:31 - Jul 9 with 2671 views | le2blue |
| Plot twist.. coming here again now … couldn’t make it up on 11:09 - Jul 9 by itfcjoe |
Hull want to sell him to us, and us only because of the double deal |
His agent met with Everton 3 days ago, he's been trying to engineer a bidding war to increase what he can earn from a deal. The way Ipswich have constructed the double deal I'm not sure Everton would be able to compete given their PSR limitations at the moment. Smart move by Ashton. |  | | |
| Plot twist.. coming here again now … couldn’t make it up on 12:36 - Jul 9 with 2257 views | SmithersJones |
| Plot twist.. coming here again now … couldn’t make it up on 11:14 - Jul 9 by Superblue95 |
Exactly. The double deal means Greaves fee can be inflated so that they don’t have to give Villa as much of a sell on fee and also Greaves classes as pure profit due to being from the academy |
It makes no difference from a FFP point of view. Extra profit on one deal is balanced by less on the other. Would make a difference re the sell on clause though.
However if Villa have matching rights for Philogene then Hull won’t want to deflate the price if we could still pull out of the Greaves deal. | | | |
| Plot twist.. coming here again now … couldn’t make it up on 12:43 - Jul 9 with 2136 views | wkj |
I await the news that he's fired his agent once we sign him. |  |
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| Plot twist.. coming here again now … couldn’t make it up on 12:54 - Jul 9 with 1935 views | PhilTWTD |
| Plot twist.. coming here again now … couldn’t make it up on 11:12 - Jul 9 by DanTheMan |
Conspiracy: Phil is at the root of all these rumours to drive more clicks to TWTD. |
Indeed, I can confirm that's the case. And that Philogene doesn't even exist. I made him up. The clue is in the name. |  | | |
| Plot twist.. coming here again now … couldn’t make it up on 12:55 - Jul 9 with 1900 views | tonybied |
| Plot twist.. coming here again now … couldn’t make it up on 12:54 - Jul 9 by PhilTWTD |
Indeed, I can confirm that's the case. And that Philogene doesn't even exist. I made him up. The clue is in the name. |
Have you been working for Reform on the side? |  | | |
| Plot twist.. coming here again now … couldn’t make it up on 13:06 - Jul 9 with 1754 views | DanTheMan |
| Plot twist.. coming here again now … couldn’t make it up on 12:54 - Jul 9 by PhilTWTD |
Indeed, I can confirm that's the case. And that Philogene doesn't even exist. I made him up. The clue is in the name. |
You're really playing the long game with this one. Premium hobknobs supply for the year out of this one. | |
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