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Philogene joining.... 15:40 - Jul 12 with 5166 viewsKieran_Knows

Villa next week.


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Philogene joining.... on 15:42 - Jul 12 with 3425 viewsportmanking

Silly boy.

But, I guess, if we've got £20m+ to spend on another inside forward, there's plenty of good options out there.

The article insinuates our bid only kicked Emery into action to consider re-signing him though, which doesn't smack of a manager that's got a plan to integrate him in the squad and play week in, week out.
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Philogene joining.... on 15:43 - Jul 12 with 3375 viewsburnbudgiesburn

Oh well, we bank Greaves and move on.

Need more sources first though, this writer is a sunday people journo - the Villa athletic correspondent said it looked unlikely a couple of hours ago.

Some of the major papers just regurgitate earlier news and make it seem the latest.
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Philogene joining.... on 15:43 - Jul 12 with 3351 viewsFrimleyBlue

He'll end up back on loan to hull.

I can't see villa wanting him as a first teamer. He'll be on loan to hull hence him training in Turkey.

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Philogene joining.... on 15:44 - Jul 12 with 3288 viewsburnbudgiesburn

Philogene joining.... on 15:43 - Jul 12 by FrimleyBlue

He'll end up back on loan to hull.

I can't see villa wanting him as a first teamer. He'll be on loan to hull hence him training in Turkey.


Makes no sense from a player point of view to end up back in the championship.
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Philogene joining.... on 15:45 - Jul 12 with 3232 viewshype313

Philogene joining.... on 15:43 - Jul 12 by FrimleyBlue

He'll end up back on loan to hull.

I can't see villa wanting him as a first teamer. He'll be on loan to hull hence him training in Turkey.


No chance he goes back into the Championship

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Philogene joining.... on 15:47 - Jul 12 with 3179 views_clive_baker_

Good luck to him if he does go there, its been a right saga and a shame as he's a quality player who I would've loved to see here, but life goes on.

We want people here that really fancy it, we've got Johnson, Hutchinson, Greaves and Delap over the line (seemingly). £50m spent, presumably a fair amount more to bring in another 4 or 5.
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Philogene joining.... on 15:47 - Jul 12 with 3149 viewsBarcaBlue

Philogene joining.... on 15:43 - Jul 12 by FrimleyBlue

He'll end up back on loan to hull.

I can't see villa wanting him as a first teamer. He'll be on loan to hull hence him training in Turkey.


Why would Villa sell him for 5 million buy him back for 18 million just to put him back where he was and over 10 million down on the deals?
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Philogene joining.... on 15:48 - Jul 12 with 3113 viewsBseaBlue

Let's crack on with Whittaker then!
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Philogene joining.... on 15:50 - Jul 12 with 2989 viewsFrimleyBlue

Philogene joining.... on 15:47 - Jul 12 by BarcaBlue

Why would Villa sell him for 5 million buy him back for 18 million just to put him back where he was and over 10 million down on the deals?


Because they achieved what they wanted too last summer by selling him.

And now they have the opportunity to do it all over again.

I don't know but I just can't see him being a first teamer at villa yet. Maybe a loan abroad instead. I dunno.
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Philogene joining.... on 15:51 - Jul 12 with 2962 viewswkj

Philogene joining.... on 15:45 - Jul 12 by hype313

No chance he goes back into the Championship


His only option in the PL will be Aston Villa. So, its either beat the current talent to the call, go to the Championship or a foreign league.

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Philogene joining.... on 15:52 - Jul 12 with 2881 viewsBarcaBlue

Philogene joining.... on 15:50 - Jul 12 by FrimleyBlue

Because they achieved what they wanted too last summer by selling him.

And now they have the opportunity to do it all over again.

I don't know but I just can't see him being a first teamer at villa yet. Maybe a loan abroad instead. I dunno.
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That makes zero sense.
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Philogene joining.... on 15:55 - Jul 12 with 2792 viewshype313

Philogene joining.... on 15:52 - Jul 12 by BarcaBlue

That makes zero sense.


Glad I'm not the only one who can't understand his logic!

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Philogene joining.... on 15:57 - Jul 12 with 2690 viewsdavblue

Philogene joining.... on 15:48 - Jul 12 by BseaBlue

Let's crack on with Whittaker then!


i'm not overly fussed on Whittaker. Think the Championship is his level. He likes playing on that right hand side and cutting in on his left, so would probably need a little reset from Burns and the left hand side looks the weaker part of the team atm.
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Philogene joining.... on 15:59 - Jul 12 with 2621 viewspointofblue

The fact that Emery has just green lighted the move makes me think the first bid was to either try and force us to increase our fee or flush out the individual amounts for Greaves and Philogene.

The fact we're now seemingly getting Greaves for £15m+£3m whilst before it was him and Philogene for a reported £40m... I think we've done well out of this.

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Philogene joining.... on 16:00 - Jul 12 with 2616 viewsportmanking

Philogene joining.... on 15:57 - Jul 12 by davblue

i'm not overly fussed on Whittaker. Think the Championship is his level. He likes playing on that right hand side and cutting in on his left, so would probably need a little reset from Burns and the left hand side looks the weaker part of the team atm.


For me, the next move has to be Jack Clarke. Another slippery customer who can play on the left and either cut in or go to the byline.

I believe they slapped an £18m price tag on him earlier in the summer, but I wonder if there's a deal to be done around the £15m mark.
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Philogene joining.... on 16:00 - Jul 12 with 2588 viewsFrimleyBlue

Philogene joining.... on 15:52 - Jul 12 by BarcaBlue

That makes zero sense.


I know. I'm not explaining it very well.

Basically. I think villa want him for future. But if ipswich sign him then they've lost the opportunity to buy him at this value due to their match fee clause with hull.

So they sign him back on. Loan him back out and carry on.

It works for philogene as he now has a bumper pay rise. Goes back to the club he enjoyed football with last season and then cracks on as a villa player in 2025/26.

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Philogene joining.... on 16:01 - Jul 12 with 2581 viewsberkstractorboy

Philogene joining.... on 15:48 - Jul 12 by BseaBlue

Let's crack on with Whittaker then!


No way not a PL player IMO. Schumacher seems to be te only manager to get a real tune out of him so far. We need much better IMO
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Philogene joining.... on 16:01 - Jul 12 with 2549 viewsITFCBlues

Strange because other sources reporting that they're not as interested as is being made out!

If it is true, time to move on!

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Philogene joining.... on 16:04 - Jul 12 with 2390 viewsVaughan8

So VIlla basically loan him for a year paying Hull £18m-whatever they received haha

Let's put it this way, i'm glad we've got Hutchinson more than this guy. At leasty its the end. As soon as it said earlier a separate deal has been done for Greaves you knew this was the outcome.

However, you can't blame him for going back to a club in the Champions League and who he knows, despite probably not much playing time next season.
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Philogene joining.... on 16:05 - Jul 12 with 2377 viewsKieran_Knows


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Philogene joining.... on 16:05 - Jul 12 with 2373 viewsHighgateBlue

Philogene joining.... on 15:43 - Jul 12 by FrimleyBlue

He'll end up back on loan to hull.

I can't see villa wanting him as a first teamer. He'll be on loan to hull hence him training in Turkey.


I very much doubt Villa would spend that money and then offload him on loan. But if they did, there would be a Premier League taker I'm sure. Maybe even Town. But I'm sure that's not the plan.

It's a shame, but this was the one that I always thought looked the most ambitious from our point of view. Nothing wrong with a bit of ambition, but I always thought it would be crazy for a player like him with bags of confidence to turn down a crack at the Champions League.
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Philogene joining.... on 16:08 - Jul 12 with 2287 viewsMetal_Hacker

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Philogene joining.... on 16:10 - Jul 12 with 2236 viewspointofblue

Philogene joining.... on 16:05 - Jul 12 by HighgateBlue

I very much doubt Villa would spend that money and then offload him on loan. But if they did, there would be a Premier League taker I'm sure. Maybe even Town. But I'm sure that's not the plan.

It's a shame, but this was the one that I always thought looked the most ambitious from our point of view. Nothing wrong with a bit of ambition, but I always thought it would be crazy for a player like him with bags of confidence to turn down a crack at the Champions League.


They can't send him out to another Premier team in the same window IIRC.

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Philogene joining.... on 16:10 - Jul 12 with 2229 viewsportmanking

Philogene joining.... on 16:01 - Jul 12 by ITFCBlues

Strange because other sources reporting that they're not as interested as is being made out!

If it is true, time to move on!


It's done. Just seen a photo of him leaving Hull's training camp in Turkey to fly back to Birmingham.
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Philogene joining.... on 16:11 - Jul 12 with 2179 viewsberkstractorboy

Philogene joining.... on 16:05 - Jul 12 by HighgateBlue

I very much doubt Villa would spend that money and then offload him on loan. But if they did, there would be a Premier League taker I'm sure. Maybe even Town. But I'm sure that's not the plan.

It's a shame, but this was the one that I always thought looked the most ambitious from our point of view. Nothing wrong with a bit of ambition, but I always thought it would be crazy for a player like him with bags of confidence to turn down a crack at the Champions League.


He can't join another PL club (sale or loan) in the same transfer window he was purchased.
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