| This Country is finished 19:04 - Aug 4 with 9117 views | cressi |
As us older folk remember it half the country don't work half because rhey are better off on pips doing nothing. Our NHS Schools Dr surgery's are all at breaking point. When I was young every town village had kids playing football jumpers for posts.Today it's drugs knife crime and major issues with how to deal with immigration large numbers of British people feeling they come second to people coming in regarding housing dental and doctors. Where does it all go the events going on obviously are wrong But there is pure frustration which then gets fueled by certain individuals and groups. |  | | |  |
| This Country is finished on 19:12 - Aug 4 with 5665 views | Zx1988 |
So you're just saying that you have Very Real Concerns? | |
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| This Country is finished on 19:16 - Aug 4 with 5614 views | NedPlimpton |
It's almost like 14 years of underfunded public services has taken its toll |  | | |
| This Country is finished on 19:18 - Aug 4 with 5575 views | factual_blue |
| This Country is finished on 19:12 - Aug 4 by Zx1988 |
So you're just saying that you have Very Real Concerns? |
Real concerns, but ignorance of the way to create proper sentences by using commas.
Right-wing attitudes always seem to be linked to a poor command of English. |  |
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| This Country is finished on 19:19 - Aug 4 with 5576 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
Yeah it was so much better when there was a world war, gangs like the Krays ruled things, coppers were bent, people of colour and the Irish weren't allowed in certain shops, football hooliganism was massive etc. etc. etc... [Post edited 4 Aug 2024 19:21]
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| This Country is finished on 19:21 - Aug 4 with 5534 views | gtsb1966 |
| This Country is finished on 19:18 - Aug 4 by factual_blue |
Real concerns, but ignorance of the way to create proper sentences by using commas.
Right-wing attitudes always seem to be linked to a poor command of English. |
How is that a right wing attitude. The post is correct. |  | | |
| This Country is finished on 19:22 - Aug 4 with 5513 views | Lamp |
| This Country is finished on 19:16 - Aug 4 by NedPlimpton |
It's almost like 14 years of underfunded public services has taken its toll |
+ ministers of state (I’m looking at you Suella Braverman) normalising and mimicking the same language and talking points used by these far right instigators. All to try and make some liberals cry in some great political game. |  | | |
| This Country is finished on 19:46 - Aug 4 with 5228 views | Ryorry |
I'm in my 70s; don't you dare include me in your rant.
It was 14 years of scumbag tory government 'austerity' & siphoning off of taxpayers' money into their & their mates' pockets instead of investing it in training, renewing infrastructure etc. that's the problem. That includes youth clubs having to close for lack of funds, probation service calamitously privatised, NHS & police services cut to the bone etc.
As for supposedly 'workshy' ppl, it's on public record that the last govt's agency declared some of them "fit for work", only for them to die of their conditions a few days later. [Post edited 4 Aug 2024 19:49]
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| This Country is finished on 19:52 - Aug 4 with 5166 views | gtsb1966 |
| This Country is finished on 19:46 - Aug 4 by Ryorry |
I'm in my 70s; don't you dare include me in your rant.
It was 14 years of scumbag tory government 'austerity' & siphoning off of taxpayers' money into their & their mates' pockets instead of investing it in training, renewing infrastructure etc. that's the problem. That includes youth clubs having to close for lack of funds, probation service calamitously privatised, NHS & police services cut to the bone etc.
As for supposedly 'workshy' ppl, it's on public record that the last govt's agency declared some of them "fit for work", only for them to die of their conditions a few days later. [Post edited 4 Aug 2024 19:49]
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Think about it though. I would hazard a guess that at least 50% of the people on this forum know either directly or indirectly someone who could work but doesn't. Replicate that throughout the country and it's a lot of people. | | | |
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| This Country is finished on 19:55 - Aug 4 with 5092 views | Zx1988 |
| This Country is finished on 19:52 - Aug 4 by gtsb1966 |
Think about it though. I would hazard a guess that at least 50% of the people on this forum know either directly or indirectly someone who could work but doesn't. Replicate that throughout the country and it's a lot of people. |
None of the current situation this country is in has anything to do with those on state benefits.
It's just another piece of culture war BS designed to distract from the actual causes.
The Government actually saves more money in unclaimed benefits, than it loses in benefit fraud. | |
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| This Country is finished on 19:56 - Aug 4 with 5078 views | NedPlimpton |
| This Country is finished on 19:52 - Aug 4 by gtsb1966 |
Think about it though. I would hazard a guess that at least 50% of the people on this forum know either directly or indirectly someone who could work but doesn't. Replicate that throughout the country and it's a lot of people. |
You can't just invent numbers and claim something to be true | | | |
| This Country is finished on 19:57 - Aug 4 with 5078 views | Ryorry |
| This Country is finished on 19:52 - Aug 4 by gtsb1966 |
Think about it though. I would hazard a guess that at least 50% of the people on this forum know either directly or indirectly someone who could work but doesn't. Replicate that throughout the country and it's a lot of people. |
I certainly don't, quite the opposite in fact. Some I know have been working 2 or even 3 jobs to try & make ends meet. Perhaps you should put up a poll to get some idea of the reality. | |
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| This Country is finished on 20:00 - Aug 4 with 5040 views | NeedhamChris |
My favourite part of this post is the first sentence, and that's only because it's the incomprehensible bit. | |
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| This Country is finished on 20:03 - Aug 4 with 4953 views | Lamp |
| This Country is finished on 19:52 - Aug 4 by gtsb1966 |
Think about it though. I would hazard a guess that at least 50% of the people on this forum know either directly or indirectly someone who could work but doesn't. Replicate that throughout the country and it's a lot of people. |
Anecdotes are not evidence. | | | |
| This Country is finished on 20:04 - Aug 4 with 4934 views | NeedhamChris |
| This Country is finished on 19:52 - Aug 4 by gtsb1966 |
Think about it though. I would hazard a guess that at least 50% of the people on this forum know either directly or indirectly someone who could work but doesn't. Replicate that throughout the country and it's a lot of people. |
Seems unfair to bring pensioners into this. | |
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| This Country is finished on 20:12 - Aug 4 with 4807 views | Meadowlark |
Us older folk remember Thatcher destroying the country, but even she was not as bad as the most recent Tory government that used propaganda and lies to demonise minorities and steal from the public purse.
You have fallen for these Tory lies perpetrated by the right wing press. |  | | |
| This Country is finished on 20:13 - Aug 4 with 4800 views | cressi |
| This Country is finished on 19:18 - Aug 4 by factual_blue |
Real concerns, but ignorance of the way to create proper sentences by using commas.
Right-wing attitudes always seem to be linked to a poor command of English. |
I'm sure commas don't change the way the country is , I did not reliase this was a English class. | | | |
| This Country is finished on 20:15 - Aug 4 with 4775 views | cressi |
| This Country is finished on 19:46 - Aug 4 by Ryorry |
I'm in my 70s; don't you dare include me in your rant.
It was 14 years of scumbag tory government 'austerity' & siphoning off of taxpayers' money into their & their mates' pockets instead of investing it in training, renewing infrastructure etc. that's the problem. That includes youth clubs having to close for lack of funds, probation service calamitously privatised, NHS & police services cut to the bone etc.
As for supposedly 'workshy' ppl, it's on public record that the last govt's agency declared some of them "fit for work", only for them to die of their conditions a few days later. [Post edited 4 Aug 2024 19:49]
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I've never voted Tory been a union rep and a Labour Councillor so wind your neck in. | | | |
| This Country is finished on 20:15 - Aug 4 with 4753 views | DropCliffsNotBombs |
| This Country is finished on 20:13 - Aug 4 by cressi |
I'm sure commas don't change the way the country is , I did not reliase this was a English class. |
Beautifully, you have mis-used the comma here.
But you're right. It's not your grammar that's the main issue with your post; it's the grim, ignorant content. |  | | |
| This Country is finished on 20:15 - Aug 4 with 4750 views | gtsb1966 |
| This Country is finished on 19:57 - Aug 4 by Ryorry |
I certainly don't, quite the opposite in fact. Some I know have been working 2 or even 3 jobs to try & make ends meet. Perhaps you should put up a poll to get some idea of the reality. |
So you don't agree there are a lot of people in this country who could work but chose not to. Fair enough. | | | |
| This Country is finished on 20:17 - Aug 4 with 4717 views | Zx1988 |
| This Country is finished on 20:15 - Aug 4 by gtsb1966 |
So you don't agree there are a lot of people in this country who could work but chose not to. Fair enough. |
Care to expand on your comments? Precisely how are benefit claimants responsible for the state of the country? | |
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| This Country is finished on 20:20 - Aug 4 with 4659 views | cressi |
| This Country is finished on 20:15 - Aug 4 by DropCliffsNotBombs |
Beautifully, you have mis-used the comma here.
But you're right. It's not your grammar that's the main issue with your post; it's the grim, ignorant content. |
Well u became involved in the debate  | | | |
| This Country is finished on 20:22 - Aug 4 with 4629 views | KBsSocks |
I'll just pick you up on the "dental and doctors" bit - I am not prevented from obtaining either by anybody else, but by the lack of dentists who will take on new patients on the NHS; and I cannot see my doctor because they have new, "efficient" systems which mean me taking a day off work to make a phone call to maybe get an appointment the same day if I'm lucky.
This is not about any extra people, it's about services being cut to the bone. |  |
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| This Country is finished on 20:26 - Aug 4 with 4531 views | Ftnfwest |
| This Country is finished on 19:18 - Aug 4 by factual_blue |
Real concerns, but ignorance of the way to create proper sentences by using commas.
Right-wing attitudes always seem to be linked to a poor command of English. |
Bloody working class |  | | |
| This Country is finished on 20:30 - Aug 4 with 4491 views | Mullet |
| This Country is finished on 20:15 - Aug 4 by gtsb1966 |
So you don't agree there are a lot of people in this country who could work but chose not to. Fair enough. |
I don’t think the Tory majority exists any more in fairness. |  |
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| This Country is finished on 20:57 - Aug 4 with 4386 views | BarcaBlue |
| This Country is finished on 19:55 - Aug 4 by Zx1988 |
None of the current situation this country is in has anything to do with those on state benefits.
It's just another piece of culture war BS designed to distract from the actual causes.
The Government actually saves more money in unclaimed benefits, than it loses in benefit fraud. |
Creating these bogeymen has been Tory strategy for yonks. The EU, immigrants, the work-shy, problems inherited from the last Labour govt. etc. etc. etc. The right wing press all run with it and a lot of fools are taken in. It's so obvious it's embarassing that people lap it up and repeat it believing the nonsense like it was hard cold fact.
Now the UK public is paying the price of years of divisiveness. Nutters are emboldened by years of Tory bigoted rhetoric and the apologists are popping up on every thread here. |  | | |
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