| This Country is finished 19:04 - Aug 4 with 9514 views | cressi |
As us older folk remember it half the country don't work half because rhey are better off on pips doing nothing. Our NHS Schools Dr surgery's are all at breaking point. When I was young every town village had kids playing football jumpers for posts.Today it's drugs knife crime and major issues with how to deal with immigration large numbers of British people feeling they come second to people coming in regarding housing dental and doctors. Where does it all go the events going on obviously are wrong But there is pure frustration which then gets fueled by certain individuals and groups. |  | | |  |
| This Country is finished on 21:07 - Aug 4 with 2478 views | Vaughan8 |
| This Country is finished on 19:52 - Aug 4 by gtsb1966 |
Think about it though. I would hazard a guess that at least 50% of the people on this forum know either directly or indirectly someone who could work but doesn't. Replicate that throughout the country and it's a lot of people. |
I don't directly know anyone who doesn't work and can, but certainly there are a few ladies at my work who can't work over a certain amount of hours because the lose part of their benefits.
Therefore when we are busy, despite them wanting to help and work overtime, its not financially viable for them.
To be honest, i don't understand the whole benefits scheme because thankfully I haven't had to use it (other than child benefit), but to stop people working ad hoc extra hours as it'll affect their benefits the next month, seems a bit silly.
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| This Country is finished on 21:14 - Aug 4 with 2416 views | jaykay |
| This Country is finished on 19:52 - Aug 4 by gtsb1966 |
Think about it though. I would hazard a guess that at least 50% of the people on this forum know either directly or indirectly someone who could work but doesn't. Replicate that throughout the country and it's a lot of people. |
i see the tory propaganda has worked. blame the poor , while the rich can get away with tax avoidance etc |  |
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| This Country is finished on 21:26 - Aug 4 with 2352 views | blueasfook |
| This Country is finished on 20:12 - Aug 4 by Meadowlark |
Us older folk remember Thatcher destroying the country, but even she was not as bad as the most recent Tory government that used propaganda and lies to demonise minorities and steal from the public purse.
You have fallen for these Tory lies perpetrated by the right wing press. |
Are you kidding? Thatcher times were far worse. 3 million unemployed. The miners strikes. Police militarised and told to go out and crack people's heads. Nothing in modern times even comes close to the misery of the Thatcher years. |  |
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| This Country is finished on 21:35 - Aug 4 with 2329 views | Ryorry |
| This Country is finished on 20:15 - Aug 4 by cressi |
I've never voted Tory been a union rep and a Labour Councillor so wind your neck in. |
Some union rep & Labour councillor you must have been, telling other Labour members to "wind (their) necks in bcos they pulled you up on your thoroughly ill-founded comments.
Which way you voted is irrelevant to the convo - apart from a Labour councillor not just being, but choosing to remain so ignorant being rather shocking. The LP run education & training courses, it's a shame you didn't avail yourself of any. |  |
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| This Country is finished on 21:40 - Aug 4 with 2270 views | Ryorry |
| This Country is finished on 21:26 - Aug 4 by blueasfook |
Are you kidding? Thatcher times were far worse. 3 million unemployed. The miners strikes. Police militarised and told to go out and crack people's heads. Nothing in modern times even comes close to the misery of the Thatcher years. |
Thatcher sowed the seeds; Johnson, Truss et al spread human sewage on them to enable that crop to grow to monster proportions. | |
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| This Country is finished on 21:46 - Aug 4 with 2231 views | NBVJohn |
| This Country is finished on 20:13 - Aug 4 by cressi |
I'm sure commas don't change the way the country is , I did not reliase this was a English class. |
An English class. | | | |
| This Country is finished on 21:48 - Aug 4 with 2229 views | factual_blue |
| This Country is finished on 19:52 - Aug 4 by gtsb1966 |
Think about it though. I would hazard a guess that at least 50% of the people on this forum know either directly or indirectly someone who could work but doesn't. Replicate that throughout the country and it's a lot of people. |
The overwhelming majority of those in the 18-64 age group (ie those of working age) are those who have retired, students, the long-term sick, and carers.
Which of those should instead be working? |  |
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| This Country is finished on 22:03 - Aug 4 with 2182 views | gtsb1966 |
| This Country is finished on 21:48 - Aug 4 by factual_blue |
The overwhelming majority of those in the 18-64 age group (ie those of working age) are those who have retired, students, the long-term sick, and carers.
Which of those should instead be working? |
Long term sick you say. There are many people who are of working age who have health issues yes just as there are those with lazyitis. |  | | |
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| This Country is finished on 22:16 - Aug 4 with 2155 views | Zx1988 |
| This Country is finished on 22:03 - Aug 4 by gtsb1966 |
Long term sick you say. There are many people who are of working age who have health issues yes just as there are those with lazyitis. |
And I'll ask yet again, given that you seem so intent on ignoring the question...
Precisely how have those on benefits (fraudulently or otherwise) contributed to the current situation? | |
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| This Country is finished on 22:21 - Aug 4 with 2126 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| This Country is finished on 22:03 - Aug 4 by gtsb1966 |
Long term sick you say. There are many people who are of working age who have health issues yes just as there are those with lazyitis. |
It's a tiny amount. Several people have told you this. Someone has even put up a graph. It's really not the issue you've been led to believe. |  |
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| This Country is finished on 22:44 - Aug 4 with 2064 views | Swansea_Blue |
| This Country is finished on 20:15 - Aug 4 by gtsb1966 |
So you don't agree there are a lot of people in this country who could work but chose not to. Fair enough. |
There are quite a few (about 9.2 million). That numbers hasn’t changed a massive amount over the last few decades though. It goes up and down a bit and was higher in the early 2010s and about the same in the early 80s. The population was lower back then, so the rate of economically inactive people would have been higher.
There are all sorts of types of people who make up that category including students (with numbers rising), long-term sick (numbers rising), unpaid carers, the disabled, early retirees who of financially independent and the unemployed. Which ones have you got the hump with? Is it the unemployed, as the unemployment rate is actually pretty low right now. |  |
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| This Country is finished on 22:55 - Aug 4 with 2024 views | factual_blue |
| This Country is finished on 22:03 - Aug 4 by gtsb1966 |
Long term sick you say. There are many people who are of working age who have health issues yes just as there are those with lazyitis. |
Evidence? | |
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| This Country is finished on 22:56 - Aug 4 with 2020 views | reusersfreekicks |
| This Country is finished on 19:52 - Aug 4 by gtsb1966 |
Think about it though. I would hazard a guess that at least 50% of the people on this forum know either directly or indirectly someone who could work but doesn't. Replicate that throughout the country and it's a lot of people. |
Rubbish. |  | | |
| This Country is finished on 23:04 - Aug 4 with 1986 views | factual_blue |
| This Country is finished on 20:15 - Aug 4 by gtsb1966 |
So you don't agree there are a lot of people in this country who could work but chose not to. Fair enough. |
Do you have any actual evidence that supports your opinion?
Or is it what you've read in the mail, or the express?
Or is it what your mate Darren tells you in the Grover & Allen? | |
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| This Country is finished on 08:28 - Aug 5 with 1798 views | BlueNomad |
| This Country is finished on 19:52 - Aug 4 by gtsb1966 |
Think about it though. I would hazard a guess that at least 50% of the people on this forum know either directly or indirectly someone who could work but doesn't. Replicate that throughout the country and it's a lot of people. |
“I would hazard a guess” means I have no empirical evidence. |  | | |
| This Country is finished on 08:56 - Aug 5 with 1772 views | jonbull88 |
| This Country is finished on 20:22 - Aug 4 by KBsSocks |
I'll just pick you up on the "dental and doctors" bit - I am not prevented from obtaining either by anybody else, but by the lack of dentists who will take on new patients on the NHS; and I cannot see my doctor because they have new, "efficient" systems which mean me taking a day off work to make a phone call to maybe get an appointment the same day if I'm lucky.
This is not about any extra people, it's about services being cut to the bone. |
Nail on head. Lack of proper funding for a long time is the major issue here and the cost of certain things like houses that distort everything. I feel we are getting to point where we’ve got to accept we are going to have to borrow a heck of a lot of money and spend bit in every part of the country to try and repair decades of decay, however it’s not going to be ok overnight and every government is scared to actually do something about it imo. | | | |
| This Country is finished on 09:03 - Aug 5 with 1741 views | goperryrevs |
The OP is correct - This Country is finished. Series three aired in 2020, and Daisy May Cooper has gone on to have a very successful career since then. | | | |
| Yes, good work….. on 09:09 - Aug 5 with 1710 views | Bloots |
| This Country is finished on 09:03 - Aug 5 by goperryrevs |
The OP is correct - This Country is finished. Series three aired in 2020, and Daisy May Cooper has gone on to have a very successful career since then. |
….this is the type of thing we need to see more of. |  |
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| This Country is finished on 09:37 - Aug 5 with 1669 views | Swansea_Blue |
| This Country is finished on 20:22 - Aug 4 by KBsSocks |
I'll just pick you up on the "dental and doctors" bit - I am not prevented from obtaining either by anybody else, but by the lack of dentists who will take on new patients on the NHS; and I cannot see my doctor because they have new, "efficient" systems which mean me taking a day off work to make a phone call to maybe get an appointment the same day if I'm lucky.
This is not about any extra people, it's about services being cut to the bone. |
Yep, services being cut to the bone and political choices. We can get GP appointments the same day where we live, no problem at all. Normally just a quick ping on the app and it's confirmed within minutes. | |
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| This Country is finished on 09:43 - Aug 5 with 1645 views | Horsham |
Point of order. People on PIP are eligible to claim when they are in work. There are people who need help because of their disabilities to get into work. Mate, I read you were a union rep, surprised your singling out the sick and disabled as part of what’s wrong with this country. Or maybe I’m reading you wrong. |  | | |
| This Country is finished on 10:46 - Aug 5 with 1559 views | wkj |
You mention PIP- that is MASSIVLY unfair. PIP is not a means tested benefit and some of the people it helps to be able to actually work rather than avoid it.
As for kids playing football, well, the whole world gave in to consumerism. The government didn't do that but people like you and me did that. Our kids bought up with a smart phone in their hand with may too much information (or misinformation) there to nurture them. The 'norm' was created by the public, not for the public. |  |
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| This Country is finished on 11:25 - Aug 5 with 1478 views | Whos_blue |
| This Country is finished on 20:15 - Aug 4 by cressi |
I've never voted Tory been a union rep and a Labour Councillor so wind your neck in. |
30p Lee was a Labour councillor.
Jim Fitzpatrick was a Fire Brigades Union rep. He became a Labour MP and tried to screw the firefighters during the 2002/3 pay dispute.
Not sure what point you're making here. |  |
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| This Country is finished on 13:08 - Aug 5 with 1417 views | Buhrer |
"As us older folk remember it half the country don't work half because rhey are better off on pips doing nothing."
U wot chump? Div listed. |  | | |
| This Country is finished on 13:27 - Aug 5 with 1353 views | HotShotHamish |
| This Country is finished on 19:18 - Aug 4 by factual_blue |
Real concerns, but ignorance of the way to create proper sentences by using commas.
Right-wing attitudes always seem to be linked to a poor command of English. |
It is exactly this type of sneering attitude that helped get us here in the 1st place.
Please highlight what was right-wing in the original statement? | | | |
| This Country is finished on 16:21 - Aug 5 with 1225 views | KBsSocks |
| This Country is finished on 13:27 - Aug 5 by HotShotHamish |
It is exactly this type of sneering attitude that helped get us here in the 1st place.
Please highlight what was right-wing in the original statement? |
"immigration" and "British people coming second" are two big clues https://www.twtd.co.uk/members/HotShotHamishe |  |
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