| I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad 22:06 - Aug 4 with 23295 views | The_Romford_Blue |
This whole week with the stuff on the news is really just awful.
I’m seeing video after video after video of gangs of 100+ scum looking for random people of colour, or Asians or anyone they believe isn’t one of their own.
These people are scum. We know that. Tommy Robinson/Yaxley Lennon should be serving time for inciting this. I’d say he’s the most dangerous person in England right now and his followers are akin to a cult. Likewise the hundreds of others in recent terms who have stoked this fire should be in a cell. Suella Braverman, Pritti Patel, Dan Wootton, Nigel Farage. All of them. We have politicians saying this response is ‘politically justified’. We’ve MPs voted in fairly and squarely actively encouraging this.its abhorrent that this is now normal that it’s not an isolated incident. It’s actually now the norm to hear a politician being openly racist to gain support of the far right. It’s the norm to see thugs chanting about wanting their country back. It’s the norm to see migrants being targeted. It’s the norm to see people being abused for the colour of the skin. I can’t help but be overwhelmed with pure anger and hatred for what those with influence and power have allowed to happen for what would be normal everyday people turning a blind eye to what is happening right now on our streets to let these thugs get away with doing this.
But what is horribly horribly sad is that there are so many innocent people now getting attacked on the street. Just today I’ve seen a car smashed in because the driver was Asian, a black guy attacked by 20+ blokes for asking why he’s being racially abused, an Asian guy with his earphones in punched in the face when minding his own business, a taxi driver crying that he’s being abused every day this week and then at the end of the interview that actually happens to him again, a hotel set on fire with children in and a mob blocking the road and only letting white people drive through. That’s just today.
I’ve said before my best mate is from Kuwait and the thought of her sitting at home today and not going on her family walk that they’ve gone on for years and years (of which I’ve joined on dozens of occasions) across the nicer parts of greater Manchester just because ‘it’s not worth risking it’ makes me feel ashamed to be English. I know it’s a minority acting like this. But if this was happening in Hungary or Poland or whatever we would watch on the news in disgust and wonder how did it happen on mass. And yet now it’s happening daily across England.
I could just turn off the news, twitter etc but that won’t change anything other than make me oblivious. But what is happening right now in my opinion is the lowest point in the history of ‘Great’ Britain. It’s terribly sad. |  |
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| I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 23:15 - Aug 4 with 2272 views | lowhouseblue |
| I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 22:52 - Aug 4 by BanksterDebtSlave |
All you can think about but yet apparently not!! Drip...drip....drip.
Elite!! |
looks like your lot are out flying the flag:
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/c263/live/e1698950-52ab-11ef-8d95-75 |  |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 23:15 - Aug 4 with 2260 views | textbackup |
| I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 23:10 - Aug 4 by reusersfreekicks |
Pls stop digging |
Just stop reading if you don’t like it. |  |
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| I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 23:19 - Aug 4 with 2203 views | NeedhamChris |
| I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 23:10 - Aug 4 by redrickstuhaart |
Nothing has changed, bar some far right shi t sitters feeling emboldened by the likes of Farage and Braverman |
Oh no, not Sitters too. |  |
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| I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 23:23 - Aug 4 with 2166 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 22:58 - Aug 4 by textbackup |
You know fck all I’ve what I’m thinking.
Pointing out there is scum on the streets from the other side really seems to rattle a few cages. I don’t know why. |
That'll teach me to read your words. You say all you can think of is innocent victims and yet you have gone on to do nothing but repeat and defend your thinking about "sides." |  |
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| I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 23:23 - Aug 4 with 2159 views | NeedhamChris |
| I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 22:54 - Aug 4 by textbackup |
To confirm, it’s ok to take to the streets, armed, in any situation? |
To be clear, if a group of racists were trying to burn some of your community alive, you'd do nothing?
It's not hard to accept there's some nuance here - carrying weapons is not right. Neither is needing to. Even worse by many times over, is the disgusting behaviour of the far right. | |
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| I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 23:24 - Aug 4 with 2141 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
Idiot! | |
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| I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 23:25 - Aug 4 with 2125 views | Bigalhunter |
| I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 22:32 - Aug 4 by textbackup |
Have you not seen the videos of the same number of men (but the other side) armed with weapons?
Hard to miss.
The entire thing is awful.
In all this all I can think about is the parents of those three girls, and the poor damaged girls that were caught up in the events of Southport. Because their memories do not need to have these events associated to them |
We had three wretched viewpoints posted at the beginning of the week, that were charitably described, in view of who posted them, as uncharacteristically naive and ill-judged.
The difference with your post is that, regrettably, it isn’t uncharacteristic, naive or surprising in the slightest. |  |
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| I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 23:29 - Aug 4 with 2060 views | lowhouseblue |
that's not a symbol you recognise? anarchists eh. | |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 23:29 - Aug 4 with 2061 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 23:23 - Aug 4 by NeedhamChris |
To be clear, if a group of racists were trying to burn some of your community alive, you'd do nothing?
It's not hard to accept there's some nuance here - carrying weapons is not right. Neither is needing to. Even worse by many times over, is the disgusting behaviour of the far right. |
Texters is very much from the man up, a little slap never hurt anybody school of thought so I doubt it. | |
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| I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 23:33 - Aug 4 with 2023 views | NeedhamChris |
| I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 23:25 - Aug 4 by Bigalhunter |
We had three wretched viewpoints posted at the beginning of the week, that were charitably described, in view of who posted them, as uncharacteristically naive and ill-judged.
The difference with your post is that, regrettably, it isn’t uncharacteristic, naive or surprising in the slightest. |
Yeah, sadly this isn't an illogical escalation from Texters previous insight into Ipswich being unpleasant now because of all the foreigners. | |
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| I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 23:37 - Aug 4 with 1982 views | textbackup |
| I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 23:23 - Aug 4 by BanksterDebtSlave |
That'll teach me to read your words. You say all you can think of is innocent victims and yet you have gone on to do nothing but repeat and defend your thinking about "sides." |
If I really need to put the things in order for the purpose of those not smart enough then here we go
1) thinking how the poor families must feel seeing this
2) thinking about the poor little girls hurt and likely scared by that forever
3) how absolutely disgusting people have acted in their towns and cities and thoughts with the likes of Romfords friend (suffering through this)
3) why the hell are people on here not fussed that communities are armed to the teeth… and excusing it. | |
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| I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 23:40 - Aug 4 with 1949 views | textbackup |
| I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 23:25 - Aug 4 by Bigalhunter |
We had three wretched viewpoints posted at the beginning of the week, that were charitably described, in view of who posted them, as uncharacteristically naive and ill-judged.
The difference with your post is that, regrettably, it isn’t uncharacteristic, naive or surprising in the slightest. |
And above all, not a single care given. | |
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| I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 23:41 - Aug 4 with 1935 views | Bigalhunter |
| I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 23:19 - Aug 4 by NeedhamChris |
Oh no, not Sitters too. |
In fairness to sitters, he did apologise and seems to have learnt something from this week.
Be interesting to see how deep texters wants to dig his hole before he chucks the spade away and goes for a long, angry think.. | |
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| I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 23:43 - Aug 4 with 1919 views | textbackup |
| I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 23:33 - Aug 4 by NeedhamChris |
Yeah, sadly this isn't an illogical escalation from Texters previous insight into Ipswich being unpleasant now because of all the foreigners. |
Absolutely not down to only the foreigners… and said countless times on here I dislike the lawless country/town we live in.
Everyday is a sht story involving every poxy race.
So try again. | |
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| I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 23:46 - Aug 4 with 1871 views | textbackup |
| I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 23:41 - Aug 4 by Bigalhunter |
In fairness to sitters, he did apologise and seems to have learnt something from this week.
Be interesting to see how deep texters wants to dig his hole before he chucks the spade away and goes for a long, angry think.. |
Won’t be going anywhere big Al.
Nothing I’ve said needs to be apologised for. And I’m happy him the following views
- the rioting is awful pathetic behaviour
- attacking innocent people (see above)
- arming yourselves with bats and knives (as above)
If you don’t agree, that’s on you old chap | |
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| I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 00:20 - Aug 5 with 1761 views | NewcyBlue |
| I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 23:08 - Aug 4 by textbackup |
The final part is exactly what I was saying, both sides have absolute wronguns associated to them, hell bent on causing division and hate.
Regardless of if the ‘far right’ were out in force, I’m not entirely sure anyone should arm themselves with bats and knifes. This seems to be ok on here tho. Who on here owns a sword? Not me, so why have some found it so easy to get their hands on them.
Highly doubt that would be the view point if a Villa fan (for example) was caught with a knife at PR, and we went to Villa park mob handed with knives in return. [Post edited 4 Aug 2024 23:13]
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I’ve got a mixed race Mrs and kids. Seeing far right r-soles, Nazis, and anyone associated with them running riot in Sunderland which is on my door step, is more than worrying. The Mrs and kids were in a queue at a local bakery and some old guy remarked how the area is full of “coons” nowadays. She was glad I wasn’t there as I would have probably been arrested.
I get home on Tuesday, if the extremists get closer, I will have no hesitation at taking my bat to them.
I’m done with talking. |  |
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| I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 00:25 - Aug 5 with 1740 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 00:20 - Aug 5 by NewcyBlue |
I’ve got a mixed race Mrs and kids. Seeing far right r-soles, Nazis, and anyone associated with them running riot in Sunderland which is on my door step, is more than worrying. The Mrs and kids were in a queue at a local bakery and some old guy remarked how the area is full of “coons” nowadays. She was glad I wasn’t there as I would have probably been arrested.
I get home on Tuesday, if the extremists get closer, I will have no hesitation at taking my bat to them.
I’m done with talking. |
Awful to hear.And sorry your wife had to hear that.
This both sides nonsense is straight out the Trump play book. It is only said to divert attention away from the the clear problem, which is far right, racist, violent criminals. Farage and co will be along in a bit as well to says it is people on both sides. disgusting. |  |
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| I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 00:29 - Aug 5 with 1709 views | textbackup |
| I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 00:20 - Aug 5 by NewcyBlue |
I’ve got a mixed race Mrs and kids. Seeing far right r-soles, Nazis, and anyone associated with them running riot in Sunderland which is on my door step, is more than worrying. The Mrs and kids were in a queue at a local bakery and some old guy remarked how the area is full of “coons” nowadays. She was glad I wasn’t there as I would have probably been arrested.
I get home on Tuesday, if the extremists get closer, I will have no hesitation at taking my bat to them.
I’m done with talking. |
I’d certainly be backing you in the instance you speak of. | |
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| I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 00:36 - Aug 5 with 1690 views | NewcyBlue |
| I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 00:29 - Aug 5 by textbackup |
I’d certainly be backing you in the instance you speak of. |
I know you would.
I know what you’re saying. It’s frightening seeing tooled up people on the streets. It’s frightening to have to brandish a weapon for safety too.
Yes there will be an element using it as an excuse to act upon their hatred.
Unfortunately the extremes on both sides are seeing an opportunity. Unfortunately people that feel like they have to protect themselves are going to do so in whatever way they can. | |
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| I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 00:46 - Aug 5 with 1677 views | NewcyBlue |
| I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 00:25 - Aug 5 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
Awful to hear.And sorry your wife had to hear that.
This both sides nonsense is straight out the Trump play book. It is only said to divert attention away from the the clear problem, which is far right, racist, violent criminals. Farage and co will be along in a bit as well to says it is people on both sides. disgusting. |
I don’t believe Texters meant any ill, I don’t think he meant it to come across as “but both sides”, rather showing dismay that anyone feels the need to brandish weapons.
Farage and co will use anything they can to stoke up the hatred. As will any person of influence with extremist opinions.
Social media is a disease, the more I see videos of white middle aged bald men (much like myself in description) setting fire to things, chanting racist ideals, and looting, the less I feel using my bat on them would weigh on conscience. | |
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| I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 00:47 - Aug 5 with 1681 views | textbackup |
| I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 00:36 - Aug 5 by NewcyBlue |
I know you would.
I know what you’re saying. It’s frightening seeing tooled up people on the streets. It’s frightening to have to brandish a weapon for safety too.
Yes there will be an element using it as an excuse to act upon their hatred.
Unfortunately the extremes on both sides are seeing an opportunity. Unfortunately people that feel like they have to protect themselves are going to do so in whatever way they can. |
What worries me, in sleepy Suffolk, is a very vocal ITFC fan based in Wolverhampton, has called on others to arm themselves wherever they travel.
He’ll be at PR on August 17th, sat in the same stand as children.
Genuinely should the club be made aware of this threat?
Considering the rioting is Merseyside based (as well as other locations) said individual might feel it necessary to ‘protect’ himself.
Everything else aside on this thread, that really doesn’t sit well with me. | |
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| I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 00:57 - Aug 5 with 1669 views | Illinoisblue |
This is not the main concern given the severity of what’s going on, but if football fans get jailed for what are often no more than mild scuffles dressed up as violent disorder, some of these rioters should be looking at 10+ years in prison. |  |
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| I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 01:16 - Aug 5 with 1628 views | NewcyBlue |
| I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 00:47 - Aug 5 by textbackup |
What worries me, in sleepy Suffolk, is a very vocal ITFC fan based in Wolverhampton, has called on others to arm themselves wherever they travel.
He’ll be at PR on August 17th, sat in the same stand as children.
Genuinely should the club be made aware of this threat?
Considering the rioting is Merseyside based (as well as other locations) said individual might feel it necessary to ‘protect’ himself.
Everything else aside on this thread, that really doesn’t sit well with me. |
If the club were to believe he was carrying something that could be used as an offensive weapon then they reserve the right to deny him entry.
If somebody doesn’t feel safe enough going to places without a weapon I would suggest not going.
My Mrs would love to take the kids to the open air cinema in Newcastle city centre, but it’s not going to be a risk worth taking.
Unfortunately when someone has been on the end of racism all their life, and they see these attacks, they’re going to either keep low and hope it passes quickly, or they’re going to be seen and heard and protect themselves.
I’ve said I’m done with talking with these people, I won’t be actively going out and bashing heads. But I’m going to make sure my family are safe, whether we are out enjoying ourselves or at home.
As for our friend in Wolverhampton, I hope he stays safe and doesn’t do anything he will regret. When the dust settles, there will be a lot of people caught up in this sitting in front of a judge regretting their decision, probably one little moment that will change their life forever.
If you genuinely believe his tweets calling on people to protect themselves to be concerning enough that the club should know about it, I would definitely highlight it to the club. They have a duty of care to all supporters to ensure they are safe. If the club aren’t thinking of security procedures for entry for all supporters then I would be surprised and disappointed. | |
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| I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 01:20 - Aug 5 with 1612 views | noggin |
| I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 22:58 - Aug 4 by textbackup |
You know fck all I’ve what I’m thinking.
Pointing out there is scum on the streets from the other side really seems to rattle a few cages. I don’t know why. |
Because "the other side " weren't there until the racists started attacking their community. |  |
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| I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 01:28 - Aug 5 with 1583 views | noggin |
| I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 23:46 - Aug 4 by textbackup |
Won’t be going anywhere big Al.
Nothing I’ve said needs to be apologised for. And I’m happy him the following views
- the rioting is awful pathetic behaviour
- attacking innocent people (see above)
- arming yourselves with bats and knives (as above)
If you don’t agree, that’s on you old chap |
'Israel has the right to defend itself.' What's the difference? [Post edited 5 Aug 2024 1:32]
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