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I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad 22:06 - Aug 4 with 23341 viewsThe_Romford_Blue

This whole week with the stuff on the news is really just awful.

I’m seeing video after video after video of gangs of 100+ scum looking for random people of colour, or Asians or anyone they believe isn’t one of their own.

These people are scum. We know that. Tommy Robinson/Yaxley Lennon should be serving time for inciting this. I’d say he’s the most dangerous person in England right now and his followers are akin to a cult. Likewise the hundreds of others in recent terms who have stoked this fire should be in a cell. Suella Braverman, Pritti Patel, Dan Wootton, Nigel Farage. All of them. We have politicians saying this response is ‘politically justified’. We’ve MPs voted in fairly and squarely actively encouraging this.its abhorrent that this is now normal that it’s not an isolated incident. It’s actually now the norm to hear a politician being openly racist to gain support of the far right. It’s the norm to see thugs chanting about wanting their country back. It’s the norm to see migrants being targeted. It’s the norm to see people being abused for the colour of the skin. I can’t help but be overwhelmed with pure anger and hatred for what those with influence and power have allowed to happen for what would be normal everyday people turning a blind eye to what is happening right now on our streets to let these thugs get away with doing this.

But what is horribly horribly sad is that there are so many innocent people now getting attacked on the street. Just today I’ve seen a car smashed in because the driver was Asian, a black guy attacked by 20+ blokes for asking why he’s being racially abused, an Asian guy with his earphones in punched in the face when minding his own business, a taxi driver crying that he’s being abused every day this week and then at the end of the interview that actually happens to him again, a hotel set on fire with children in and a mob blocking the road and only letting white people drive through. That’s just today.

I’ve said before my best mate is from Kuwait and the thought of her sitting at home today and not going on her family walk that they’ve gone on for years and years (of which I’ve joined on dozens of occasions) across the nicer parts of greater Manchester just because ‘it’s not worth risking it’ makes me feel ashamed to be English. I know it’s a minority acting like this. But if this was happening in Hungary or Poland or whatever we would watch on the news in disgust and wonder how did it happen on mass. And yet now it’s happening daily across England.

I could just turn off the news, twitter etc but that won’t change anything other than make me oblivious. But what is happening right now in my opinion is the lowest point in the history of ‘Great’ Britain. It’s terribly sad.

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I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 09:03 - Aug 5 with 1598 viewsMercian

I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 09:01 - Aug 5 by SitfcB

So it’s ok to run amok through city centres with machetes?

I’d say that’s not ok whatever colour, race, religion, nationality, shoe size you are.


I agree it's not OK but there are degrees of not OK. It is not OK to shoplift a Mars Bar nor is it OK to rob a bank.
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I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 09:04 - Aug 5 with 1592 viewsPendejo

I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 08:45 - Aug 5 by chicoazul

I’m really scared about the state of our country so I think I’ll go loot a Greggs and smash up someone else’s car.


It's the only sensible response!

None of this new woke law & order stuff, due process, piecing together all the evidence etc.

What amazes me is that in these days where those not participating in this mayhem are de facto photo journalists posting pictures on line that will be used later for the convictions... that people aren't doing more to hide their faces

And that camera phone clarity is way better than your average shop CCTV image

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I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 09:09 - Aug 5 with 1535 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 09:01 - Aug 5 by SitfcB

So it’s ok to run amok through city centres with machetes?

I’d say that’s not ok whatever colour, race, religion, nationality, shoe size you are.


Haha, where have I said or suggested that? You said they're all as bad as each other. There are 1000s more from the far right, across multiple cities up and down the country, who started all this let's not forget. No-one's saying carrying machetes is right but it's not equal with the far right nutjobs who have instigated this disorder.

Sounding very close to "actually ALL lives matter"!

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Greggs sausage rolls are…. on 09:12 - Aug 5 with 1519 viewsBloots

I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 08:45 - Aug 5 by chicoazul

I’m really scared about the state of our country so I think I’ll go loot a Greggs and smash up someone else’s car.


….massively over rated anyway.

Surely the only reason they are so popular is because they are the only readily available warm sausage rolls on every high street.

I’m here to discuss all the important issues.

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I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 09:13 - Aug 5 with 1503 viewsMercian

I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 09:04 - Aug 5 by Pendejo

It's the only sensible response!

None of this new woke law & order stuff, due process, piecing together all the evidence etc.

What amazes me is that in these days where those not participating in this mayhem are de facto photo journalists posting pictures on line that will be used later for the convictions... that people aren't doing more to hide their faces

And that camera phone clarity is way better than your average shop CCTV image


Right. These people are supportive of the police when they stamp on someones head or break up a peaceful pro Gaza protest. When the police do something they don't like they throw bricks at them and burn their panda cars.
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Greggs sausage rolls are…. on 09:17 - Aug 5 with 1452 viewsMercian

Greggs sausage rolls are…. on 09:12 - Aug 5 by Bloots

….massively over rated anyway.

Surely the only reason they are so popular is because they are the only readily available warm sausage rolls on every high street.

I’m here to discuss all the important issues.


They do not remove the hot food VAT from the price when the sausage rolls go cold. Very important.
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Broken Britain (n/t) on 09:20 - Aug 5 with 1417 viewsBloots

Greggs sausage rolls are…. on 09:17 - Aug 5 by Mercian

They do not remove the hot food VAT from the price when the sausage rolls go cold. Very important.
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I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 09:24 - Aug 5 with 1414 viewstextbackup

I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 08:21 - Aug 5 by The_Flashing_Smile

"To confirm, it’s ok to take to the streets, armed, in any situation?"


Did he not say within his home?

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I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 09:26 - Aug 5 with 1394 viewstextbackup

I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 08:21 - Aug 5 by PassionNotAnger

Your first sentence was to say “have you seen the other side”. From the very start it was whataboutery, making an equivalence between the EDL racists in loads of cities to the videos you have apparently seen.

Your agenda is clear, you may not own it but it looks very clear which “side” you have most sympathy with


You really are one wet old sod aren’t you.
How many times do I need to say the bad on both sides of this are pure scum, in no order of one above the other. Jesus

Of course, my shadow believes me to be wrong in saying the bad on both sides are scum. I should focus my hate at only the ‘far right’… might have avoided a downvote then 😂
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I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 09:30 - Aug 5 with 1365 viewstextbackup

I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 08:57 - Aug 5 by Mercian

I can't be bothered to look right now but was Textbackup one those who thought the motorway protestors got off lightly a couple of weeks ago? The ones that did not burn cars or hotels or attack the police and random non white people?
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I have no idea what you are on about.

If you’re going to try and make something up atleast try a bit harder

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Greggs sausage rolls are…. on 09:34 - Aug 5 with 1341 viewsDanTheMan

Greggs sausage rolls are…. on 09:12 - Aug 5 by Bloots

….massively over rated anyway.

Surely the only reason they are so popular is because they are the only readily available warm sausage rolls on every high street.

I’m here to discuss all the important issues.


Also they are very cheap. They are nicer than the ones my local co-op does.

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I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 09:36 - Aug 5 with 1328 viewswitchdoctor

it wouldn’t happen in Poland…not sure about Hungary…
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I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 09:37 - Aug 5 with 1316 viewsPassionNotAnger

I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 09:26 - Aug 5 by textbackup

You really are one wet old sod aren’t you.
How many times do I need to say the bad on both sides of this are pure scum, in no order of one above the other. Jesus

Of course, my shadow believes me to be wrong in saying the bad on both sides are scum. I should focus my hate at only the ‘far right’… might have avoided a downvote then 😂
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The fact that you are trying to make a horrific surge in violence and demonstrations that means many non-white people are wary of going about their business equivalent to some random unverified videos in your echo chamber twitter feed says it all

I’d rather be “wet” than a racist
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I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 09:40 - Aug 5 with 1283 viewsJakeITFC

I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 09:26 - Aug 5 by textbackup

You really are one wet old sod aren’t you.
How many times do I need to say the bad on both sides of this are pure scum, in no order of one above the other. Jesus

Of course, my shadow believes me to be wrong in saying the bad on both sides are scum. I should focus my hate at only the ‘far right’… might have avoided a downvote then 😂
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I think the problem with both siding it is that it reads as though what the rioters are trying to do (attack mosques, burn down hotels, general smashing up of the place) is somehow justified and I don't think that is the case.
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Yeah, they are fine…. on 09:44 - Aug 5 with 1237 viewsBloots

Greggs sausage rolls are…. on 09:34 - Aug 5 by DanTheMan

Also they are very cheap. They are nicer than the ones my local co-op does.


….but they don’t deserve the cult status they have.

My missus loves them.

But she’s originally from Croydon.

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I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 09:46 - Aug 5 with 1230 viewstextbackup

I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 09:37 - Aug 5 by PassionNotAnger

The fact that you are trying to make a horrific surge in violence and demonstrations that means many non-white people are wary of going about their business equivalent to some random unverified videos in your echo chamber twitter feed says it all

I’d rather be “wet” than a racist


There are many things I’d rather be than racist, that includes wet too. So we firmly agree on something 👍

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I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 09:52 - Aug 5 with 1195 viewsPassionNotAnger

I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 09:46 - Aug 5 by textbackup

There are many things I’d rather be than racist, that includes wet too. So we firmly agree on something 👍


I suppose it isn’t suprising that someone who thinks Ipswich is “too full of foreigners” doesn’t see being racist as the worst thing to be.

Almost owning it now, some progress so that everyone can see you true colours
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I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 09:59 - Aug 5 with 1158 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 09:24 - Aug 5 by textbackup

Did he not say within his home?


Nope.

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I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 10:04 - Aug 5 with 1111 viewsdavblue

I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 09:03 - Aug 5 by The_Flashing_Smile

Jesus, if you're going to loot anywhere and get your face all over social media so you're easily identified, why would you choose a place that sells cheap pasties, sarnies and sausage rolls?! What a dimwit.


erm they are 'PATRIOTS'.
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I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 10:06 - Aug 5 with 1097 viewstextbackup

I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 09:52 - Aug 5 by PassionNotAnger

I suppose it isn’t suprising that someone who thinks Ipswich is “too full of foreigners” doesn’t see being racist as the worst thing to be.

Almost owning it now, some progress so that everyone can see you true colours
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lol when did I say either of those things you lemon?

Stop trying to force this. It’s embarrassing.
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I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 10:06 - Aug 5 with 1080 viewstextbackup

I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 09:59 - Aug 5 by The_Flashing_Smile

Nope.


My bad, Twas late and I thought I’d read that.

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I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 10:11 - Aug 5 with 1029 viewsPinewoodblue

I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 09:52 - Aug 5 by PassionNotAnger

I suppose it isn’t suprising that someone who thinks Ipswich is “too full of foreigners” doesn’t see being racist as the worst thing to be.

Almost owning it now, some progress so that everyone can see you true colours
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You really don’t understand do you.

Counter protests get in the way of Police dealing with the original problem. Enough is Enough and stand up to racism both cause problems for law enforcement.

Not sure where this “ I am offended and have a right to make feeling known by protesting “ attitude comes from. Instead of dealing directly with the initial problem Police resources are stretched trying to keep two sets of idiots apart.

There is no cure for stupidity.

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I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 10:17 - Aug 5 with 974 viewseireblue

I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 09:59 - Aug 5 by The_Flashing_Smile

Nope.


It is purely tactics we are talking about here.

Let’s talk in football terms, you could stay at home, e.g. wait for an attack, or employ a very high press KMK tactics, or sometimes a low block.

If you are in a Muslim area, and in a shop/mosque/asylum centre and there are reports of an attack coming, sure you could just wait for the shot. A bit intimidating for a person in a shop.

Or you could employ a low block, i.e. stand outside in a group, or employee a high press, i.e. meet the attackers before they are in position.

Although I have slipped in a footballing analogy, which does indeed have sides, I don’t think that term is useful.

There are groups of men purposely going out to attack people they think are Muslims.

There are people getting attacked in shops, cars, taxis. That isn’t a side.
There are people scared in mosques and asylum centres. That isn’t a side.
There are people clearing up after all the damage. That isn’t a side.
There are people handing out refreshments to police. That isn’t a side.
There are people standing in the way of the far right thugs. That isn’t a side.
And some people are employing an aggressive high press. That isn’t a side.
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Greggs sausage rolls are…. on 10:31 - Aug 5 with 913 viewsTractorFrog

Greggs sausage rolls are…. on 09:12 - Aug 5 by Bloots

….massively over rated anyway.

Surely the only reason they are so popular is because they are the only readily available warm sausage rolls on every high street.

I’m here to discuss all the important issues.


What a disgusting comment.

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I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 10:32 - Aug 5 with 906 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

I don’t know whether I’m angry or sad on 10:17 - Aug 5 by eireblue

It is purely tactics we are talking about here.

Let’s talk in football terms, you could stay at home, e.g. wait for an attack, or employ a very high press KMK tactics, or sometimes a low block.

If you are in a Muslim area, and in a shop/mosque/asylum centre and there are reports of an attack coming, sure you could just wait for the shot. A bit intimidating for a person in a shop.

Or you could employ a low block, i.e. stand outside in a group, or employee a high press, i.e. meet the attackers before they are in position.

Although I have slipped in a footballing analogy, which does indeed have sides, I don’t think that term is useful.

There are groups of men purposely going out to attack people they think are Muslims.

There are people getting attacked in shops, cars, taxis. That isn’t a side.
There are people scared in mosques and asylum centres. That isn’t a side.
There are people clearing up after all the damage. That isn’t a side.
There are people handing out refreshments to police. That isn’t a side.
There are people standing in the way of the far right thugs. That isn’t a side.
And some people are employing an aggressive high press. That isn’t a side.


If people were on their way to attack me and my family/neighbours in our homes or businesses I would definitely suggest going out to engage them well before they got anywhere near.

Newcy has a wife and kids, I'm sure if he had to take up a baseball bat against these thugs he'd want to do it well away from them.

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