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What do you think 08:44 - Aug 20 with 4003 viewsLeathersblueblood

the chances are of Kieran giving Burgess and Edmundson a game on Saturday? Firstly as a reward for getting us in the Prem, and also to see how they cope.
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What do you think on 08:46 - Aug 20 with 3562 viewsbaxterbasics

Maybe one or the other in place of Woolfy, but I can't see him dropping Greaves!

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What do you think on 08:51 - Aug 20 with 3481 viewsSandman180

There's no time for sentiment now, you play your best available team at all opportunities within the league, granted it's very unlikely we get anything from Saturday's game, but there needs to be some form of team structure implemented as we head into September...

Burgess/Edmundson will play a part against AFC Wimbledon I'm sure, in the meantime, you keep Greaves/Wolfy and don't upset the equilibrium too much.

Feel a little for Burgess, but that's football - sentiment won't keep us in the league, remember that.
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What do you think on 08:57 - Aug 20 with 3430 viewspointofblue

What do you think on 08:51 - Aug 20 by Sandman180

There's no time for sentiment now, you play your best available team at all opportunities within the league, granted it's very unlikely we get anything from Saturday's game, but there needs to be some form of team structure implemented as we head into September...

Burgess/Edmundson will play a part against AFC Wimbledon I'm sure, in the meantime, you keep Greaves/Wolfy and don't upset the equilibrium too much.

Feel a little for Burgess, but that's football - sentiment won't keep us in the league, remember that.


As much as I've defended him on here, and think he did really well on Saturday, I wouldn't be surprised if we did make a change at the back due to Haaland's physicality, with Woolfenden dropping out. It could be a case of Johnson in at right back, Tuanzebe moving across, Hutchinson switching to the right and maybe Harness coming in to cover the left.

I could also see Muric in for Walton, Cajuste for Luongo and Szmodics for Chaplin. Or perhaps even a back three where Edmundson or Burgess come in for Burns with Hutchinson and Szmodics playing as tens.

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What do you think on 09:01 - Aug 20 with 3387 viewsLeathersblueblood

What do you think on 08:51 - Aug 20 by Sandman180

There's no time for sentiment now, you play your best available team at all opportunities within the league, granted it's very unlikely we get anything from Saturday's game, but there needs to be some form of team structure implemented as we head into September...

Burgess/Edmundson will play a part against AFC Wimbledon I'm sure, in the meantime, you keep Greaves/Wolfy and don't upset the equilibrium too much.

Feel a little for Burgess, but that's football - sentiment won't keep us in the league, remember that.


Yes i get what you are saying, but feel realistically we wont get anything from the game, and its just reward for their efforts to play in a one off game against the Champions in a massive ground, i suppose iam just being a big softy.
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What do you think on 09:22 - Aug 20 with 3271 viewsGarv

What do you think on 09:01 - Aug 20 by Leathersblueblood

Yes i get what you are saying, but feel realistically we wont get anything from the game, and its just reward for their efforts to play in a one off game against the Champions in a massive ground, i suppose iam just being a big softy.


Imagine if McKenna had the attitude that 'realistically we won't get anything from the game'.

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What do you think on 09:29 - Aug 20 with 3202 viewsJon_456

What do you think on 09:22 - Aug 20 by Garv

Imagine if McKenna had the attitude that 'realistically we won't get anything from the game'.


To be fair he half admitted the other day.

When talking about the opening two games he said:

“We take that as a positive. We know on the flip-side of it coming into the season that we’ll have no points after the first two games…”
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What do you think on 09:42 - Aug 20 with 3065 viewsdavblue

we have to get out of this mentality/mindset that we are on a tour and we should be giving people chances so they can have a day out.

This is serious business, we have to try and stay in the premier league.
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What do you think on 09:46 - Aug 20 with 3019 viewskiwiblue

What do you think on 09:29 - Aug 20 by Jon_456

To be fair he half admitted the other day.

When talking about the opening two games he said:

“We take that as a positive. We know on the flip-side of it coming into the season that we’ll have no points after the first two games…”


Think a back three of Tuanzebe Greaves plus one maybe burgess with his strength and Wolfy and Edmundson v the Wombles. Two fullbacks playing deep and packing midfield.
How long until Harry Clarke is back? Maybe Omari and Chappers behind Delap and playing on the break.
Its a free shot for a point ,and build up for a few good performances in the next three league games.
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What do you think on 09:47 - Aug 20 with 3014 viewsBluefields

Play your best back four, imo,as much as possible. Too many gaps appeared on Saturday, particularly Salah running in between and behind Greaves and Davis as they were too far apart. Fulham will be a very difficult game btw, good Premier League side.
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What do you think on 09:49 - Aug 20 with 2987 viewsTrequartista

It’s not a friendly!

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What do you think on 09:54 - Aug 20 with 2943 viewsWickets

What do you think on 09:42 - Aug 20 by davblue

we have to get out of this mentality/mindset that we are on a tour and we should be giving people chances so they can have a day out.

This is serious business, we have to try and stay in the premier league.


Yes of course i'm in agreement but was it sentiment that stopped KM making a change at HT or soon after on Saturday ? He must have seen Massimo ,who had a good 35 minutes, had run out of steam and just could not get anywhere near Trent AA . 31 year old Massimo on Premier League debut running on empty i just felt for him . We all love our manager and of course great what he has done but remember this was his first Premier game as a manager too did he get it wrong ?
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What do you think on 09:59 - Aug 20 with 2865 viewsWickets

What do you think on 09:01 - Aug 20 by Leathersblueblood

Yes i get what you are saying, but feel realistically we wont get anything from the game, and its just reward for their efforts to play in a one off game against the Champions in a massive ground, i suppose iam just being a big softy.


Be very dangerous to start thinking we cant get anything out of the game today ! realistic or not . It must be 100% every game or we will be doomed .
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What do you think on 10:00 - Aug 20 with 2841 viewsPrideOfTheEast

What do you think on 09:42 - Aug 20 by davblue

we have to get out of this mentality/mindset that we are on a tour and we should be giving people chances so they can have a day out.

This is serious business, we have to try and stay in the premier league.


As if the club has that mentality - this is a public message board.
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What do you think on 10:03 - Aug 20 with 2809 viewsSomethingBlue

You don't give people a go at the Etihad as a present, you play the best team you can and hope to keep the scoreline respectable. As it happens we will be very lightweight on numbers elsewhere on the pitch so you can be pretty sure you'll see our best defence.

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What do you think on 10:06 - Aug 20 with 2761 viewsVaughan8

You're winning today for the most silly suggestion.

Yep. Lets let everyone have a go. GIve AL-Hamadi a start up front

If they're what McKenna thinks is our best team then yes, but I doubt he'll not play Greaves. We aren't here to "give people a go", especially vs the best team, away, where we could get hammered even with our best team.
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What do you think on 10:11 - Aug 20 with 2715 viewsRimsy

Going forward in this league, I think we're going to have to play 3 centre backs. The way, especially Leif, pushes on, it just leaves us too exposed. So Axel, Wolfy (I'd prefer Burgess) and Greaves central with 2 proper wing backs.

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What do you think on 10:22 - Aug 20 with 2598 viewsGlasgowBlue

Wouldn’t surprise me to see Fridge in for Woolfy to do a job on Haaland like he did in Delap last October.

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What do you think on 10:47 - Aug 20 with 2508 viewsWestSussexBlue

What do you think on 09:49 - Aug 20 by Trequartista

It’s not a friendly!


Agree, and we are not Norwich and just there to make the numbers up.
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What do you think on 10:49 - Aug 20 with 2479 viewsAsa

What do you think on 09:22 - Aug 20 by Garv

Imagine if McKenna had the attitude that 'realistically we won't get anything from the game'.


McCarthy going to Old Trafford didn't even bother to reward players.

Just went straight with the 'we won't get anything' and then denied his generals and proper blokes one of the best moments of their careers.

All to get a win on the Saturday. Which of course the disgruntled main squad failed to do.

Was the most bit of bizarre management I have ever seen. As negative as Mick was, he also wasn't stupid, so no idea what the hell that was about.

Not a chance Kieran would ever do that. Let alone on Saturday.
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What do you think on 11:04 - Aug 20 with 2398 viewsITFCson

I fully expect Burgess to start vs City and it will not be due to sentiment.
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What do you think on 11:13 - Aug 20 with 2348 viewsMookamoo

What do you think on 09:46 - Aug 20 by kiwiblue

Think a back three of Tuanzebe Greaves plus one maybe burgess with his strength and Wolfy and Edmundson v the Wombles. Two fullbacks playing deep and packing midfield.
How long until Harry Clarke is back? Maybe Omari and Chappers behind Delap and playing on the break.
Its a free shot for a point ,and build up for a few good performances in the next three league games.


Was interesting we dabbled with the back 3 during pre-season. I think it was exactly for this sort if game.

Johnson/Tuanzebe/Greaves/Burgess/Davis. Might see Greaves try to nullify Haaland getting behind as much as possible. There is going to be a lot of elbow action.

I like the idea of Hutchinson and Szmodics behind Delap. Both can quickly cover a lot of ground with the ball which will need with one less No10
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What do you think on 11:15 - Aug 20 with 2332 viewsVic

What do you think on 08:57 - Aug 20 by pointofblue

As much as I've defended him on here, and think he did really well on Saturday, I wouldn't be surprised if we did make a change at the back due to Haaland's physicality, with Woolfenden dropping out. It could be a case of Johnson in at right back, Tuanzebe moving across, Hutchinson switching to the right and maybe Harness coming in to cover the left.

I could also see Muric in for Walton, Cajuste for Luongo and Szmodics for Chaplin. Or perhaps even a back three where Edmundson or Burgess come in for Burns with Hutchinson and Szmodics playing as tens.


Agree with a lot of that. Hutch has to come over the the right - arguably his best position - and Szmodders in place of Chappers (greaves me to say that as I really like the little guy!). At the back it's a bit more nuanced. We certainly saw Burgess (or was it Edmondson?) brought in a for a game against a strong attacker?

Its so fascinating isn't it, anticipating and seeing how our boys get on against some of the best players in the world. They will learn so much from these first two games regardless of the scores. I hope it's not a cricket score on sat - I've said elsewhere that I'll be happy if we keep it to three (though I fear it might be more!)

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What do you think on 11:17 - Aug 20 with 2318 viewspointofblue

What do you think on 10:49 - Aug 20 by Asa

McCarthy going to Old Trafford didn't even bother to reward players.

Just went straight with the 'we won't get anything' and then denied his generals and proper blokes one of the best moments of their careers.

All to get a win on the Saturday. Which of course the disgruntled main squad failed to do.

Was the most bit of bizarre management I have ever seen. As negative as Mick was, he also wasn't stupid, so no idea what the hell that was about.

Not a chance Kieran would ever do that. Let alone on Saturday.
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He did the same with Wolves in a league game - went to Old Trafford and played the reserves as they faced Burnley a few days later. The club were fined for bringing the game into disrepute but did pick up three points against the latter.

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What do you think on 11:26 - Aug 20 with 2274 viewsportmanroadblue

What do you think on 09:54 - Aug 20 by Wickets

Yes of course i'm in agreement but was it sentiment that stopped KM making a change at HT or soon after on Saturday ? He must have seen Massimo ,who had a good 35 minutes, had run out of steam and just could not get anywhere near Trent AA . 31 year old Massimo on Premier League debut running on empty i just felt for him . We all love our manager and of course great what he has done but remember this was his first Premier game as a manager too did he get it wrong ?
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Slot made changes 2nd half, which worked and allowed more space down the right side, think Mass and quite a few was tiring, should McKenna have picked up on both? possibly, but maybe just a bit too late, he will learn from it.
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What do you think on 11:52 - Aug 20 with 2188 viewsdavblue

What do you think on 10:00 - Aug 20 by PrideOfTheEast

As if the club has that mentality - this is a public message board.


It was at the message board.
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