| Labour Party and Kier Starmer 07:25 - Sep 3 with 49675 views | onceablue |
I just woke up from a nightmare where Kier Starmer and his Girlfriend Rachael Reeves were in charge of the country
Oh f@ck
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| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 14:16 - Sep 11 with 2864 views | Zapers |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 11:52 - Sep 11 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Are you Glassers with a different alt? He has been Tory for decades - and during the time of austerity we're talking about. We had long running battles of here about it, so it's laughable that you're now saying I'm not allowed to call them "his lot". It was absolutely "his lot", that he repeatedly voted for and electioneered for on here.
And in terms of who didn't realise, I was referring to pensioners not Glassers. I assume he completely realises. Maybe you ought to read and digest properly before you go steaming in to defend 'another' poster. |
I know it's difficult for some to comprehend, but people change opinions. Not you, but most normal people.
A while ago you were in love with Corbyn, now its Starmer, poles apart.
However when it comes to GB, he's not allowed to change. No sir, he's forever Tory.
Grow up, and maybe start learning that people change opinions in politics. | | | |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 14:26 - Sep 11 with 2828 views | Blueschev |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 14:16 - Sep 11 by Zapers |
I know it's difficult for some to comprehend, but people change opinions. Not you, but most normal people.
A while ago you were in love with Corbyn, now its Starmer, poles apart.
However when it comes to GB, he's not allowed to change. No sir, he's forever Tory.
Grow up, and maybe start learning that people change opinions in politics. |
Not wishing to speak on behalf of another poster, but I would expect that GB would claim that it is the Conservative Party's opinions that have changed, rather than his own. [Post edited 11 Sep 2024 14:34]
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| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 14:42 - Sep 11 with 2773 views | Zapers |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 14:26 - Sep 11 by Blueschev |
Not wishing to speak on behalf of another poster, but I would expect that GB would claim that it is the Conservative Party's opinions that have changed, rather than his own. [Post edited 11 Sep 2024 14:34]
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Correct, but that is turn gives voters the opportunity to also change opinions as a result of parties changing course. | | | |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 16:32 - Sep 11 with 2670 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 14:16 - Sep 11 by Zapers |
I know it's difficult for some to comprehend, but people change opinions. Not you, but most normal people.
A while ago you were in love with Corbyn, now its Starmer, poles apart.
However when it comes to GB, he's not allowed to change. No sir, he's forever Tory.
Grow up, and maybe start learning that people change opinions in politics. |
I've not said he's not allowed to change. We're not talking about now, we're talking about the time he supported, voted for and electioneered for them.
And yes I supported Corbyn, and now support Starmer. Sorry, am I not allowed to agree with different people along the political spectrum?
The irony here is you think I've changed opinions by supporting one and then the other... while in the same breadth saying I need to grow up and learn that people change opinions in politics!
Frankly, you're all over the place. |  |
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| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 16:53 - Sep 11 with 2606 views | leitrimblue |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 13:37 - Sep 11 by Zapers |
One mans waste of air was oxygen to the sensible majority. |
Another excellent contribution to the thread. We're so lucky to have you, keep up the good work  |  | | |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 18:36 - Sep 11 with 2511 views | Leaky |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 16:32 - Sep 11 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I've not said he's not allowed to change. We're not talking about now, we're talking about the time he supported, voted for and electioneered for them.
And yes I supported Corbyn, and now support Starmer. Sorry, am I not allowed to agree with different people along the political spectrum?
The irony here is you think I've changed opinions by supporting one and then the other... while in the same breadth saying I need to grow up and learn that people change opinions in politics!
Frankly, you're all over the place. |
So what in effect you saying is changing political allegiance. Would be like supporting Norwich instead of Ipswich. that's the problem with politics for some its engrained in there mind, People like you are part of the problem whether its labour or conservative. Still think we need to get rid of the party political structure in this country its not worked for a hundred years |  | | |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 18:38 - Sep 11 with 2504 views | positivity |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 18:36 - Sep 11 by Leaky |
So what in effect you saying is changing political allegiance. Would be like supporting Norwich instead of Ipswich. that's the problem with politics for some its engrained in there mind, People like you are part of the problem whether its labour or conservative. Still think we need to get rid of the party political structure in this country its not worked for a hundred years |
what's your alternative that'll work for the next hundred years? | |
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| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 18:49 - Sep 11 with 2483 views | Leaky |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 18:38 - Sep 11 by positivity |
what's your alternative that'll work for the next hundred years? |
Not the present system alternating the same bunch of nonentities every 5 years. ill probably be dead when the next election comes round. Thank funk. | | | |
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| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 18:52 - Sep 11 with 2480 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 18:36 - Sep 11 by Leaky |
So what in effect you saying is changing political allegiance. Would be like supporting Norwich instead of Ipswich. that's the problem with politics for some its engrained in there mind, People like you are part of the problem whether its labour or conservative. Still think we need to get rid of the party political structure in this country its not worked for a hundred years |
Come again? | |
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| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 19:18 - Sep 11 with 2447 views | Leaky |
I will make it simple for you to understand Person A is a labour supporter always votes Labour .
Person B always votes Conservative,
While there this entrenched view on politics remains between supposable left and right nothing going to change. this from some one who votes for an Independent as protest vote at all elections | | | |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 20:08 - Sep 11 with 2379 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 19:18 - Sep 11 by Leaky |
I will make it simple for you to understand Person A is a labour supporter always votes Labour .
Person B always votes Conservative,
While there this entrenched view on politics remains between supposable left and right nothing going to change. this from some one who votes for an Independent as protest vote at all elections |
I haven't always voted Labour. | |
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| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 20:27 - Sep 11 with 2365 views | Leaky |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 09:13 - Sep 3 by GlasgowBlue |
That’s irrelevant. The country was crying out for change and the Conservative government was well past its sell by date.
I’m a lifelong Conservative who voted Labour. I’m going to disagree with quite a lot that Starmer introduces but the one thing the country needed was decency and honesty, and he will provide that.
The Tories need at least ten years in opposition in order to try and figure out what they actually stand for, which towards the end seemed to be staying in power for powers sake and not introducing any meaningful policies. |
isn't this the problem we are governed by ideologies left, right, left right . Reminds me of some the stories I heard from people i worked with who did national service. We need to get rid of the political dogma in his country & all work together | | | |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 22:18 - Sep 11 with 2269 views | positivity |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 18:49 - Sep 11 by Leaky |
Not the present system alternating the same bunch of nonentities every 5 years. ill probably be dead when the next election comes round. Thank funk. |
that's not an alternative... | |
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| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 07:25 - Sep 12 with 2106 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 19:18 - Sep 11 by Leaky |
I will make it simple for you to understand Person A is a labour supporter always votes Labour .
Person B always votes Conservative,
While there this entrenched view on politics remains between supposable left and right nothing going to change. this from some one who votes for an Independent as protest vote at all elections |
How's that protest vote worked out for you over the years? | |
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| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 14:36 - Sep 12 with 1953 views | Zapers |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 07:25 - Sep 12 by The_Flashing_Smile |
How's that protest vote worked out for you over the years? |
Pretty much the same as yours, if you voted for Corbyn. | | | |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 15:42 - Sep 12 with 1889 views | Benters |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 14:36 - Sep 12 by Zapers |
Pretty much the same as yours, if you voted for Corbyn. |
You must remember Dolly sees himself as the forums Russel Brand  |  |
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| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 16:09 - Sep 12 with 1856 views | J2BLUE |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 09:50 - Sep 11 by DJR |
There has to be a state pension because it's difficult to see how many people are going to be able to build up a sufficient pension pot elsewhere. |
Perhaps Elon will be our new overlord by then. We'll all get a monthly payment in exchange for posting on X ten times a day
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/article/2024/sep/07/elon-musk-first-trill
Can anyone justify this? ^
I'm not sure what power we have over a foreign national but the level of wealth is just insane. Less than 1% of his current wealth pays the winter fuel bill. We should apply a 1% annual tax to anyone who has wealth exceeding £100m. That might seem like a high figure but we have people on £25k a year defending the rights of billionaires not to pay more tax so hopefully that number would still allow people to dream of winning the Euromillions without thinking they would be next. |  |
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| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 16:27 - Sep 12 with 1807 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 14:36 - Sep 12 by Zapers |
Pretty much the same as yours, if you voted for Corbyn. |
Mine's a one-off vote. You claimed you ALWAYS vote independent as a protest.
I'm guessing you're pretty old, so we're talking decades. As I say, how has that protest gone for you? What has it achieved?
I'm still waiting for an apology. You said "that's the problem with politics for some its engrained in there (sic) mind, People like you are part of the problem". I posted that I haven't always voted Labour, but surprisingly you chose not to reply to that inconvenient fact. [Post edited 12 Sep 2024 16:29]
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| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 16:28 - Sep 12 with 1799 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 15:42 - Sep 12 by Benters |
You must remember Dolly sees himself as the forums Russel Brand |
Silly comment from a (still) silly man.
No reply to my facts about train drivers... | |
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| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 17:29 - Sep 12 with 1701 views | DanTheMan |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 16:09 - Sep 12 by J2BLUE |
Perhaps Elon will be our new overlord by then. We'll all get a monthly payment in exchange for posting on X ten times a day
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/article/2024/sep/07/elon-musk-first-trill
Can anyone justify this? ^
I'm not sure what power we have over a foreign national but the level of wealth is just insane. Less than 1% of his current wealth pays the winter fuel bill. We should apply a 1% annual tax to anyone who has wealth exceeding £100m. That might seem like a high figure but we have people on £25k a year defending the rights of billionaires not to pay more tax so hopefully that number would still allow people to dream of winning the Euromillions without thinking they would be next. |
Not sure on the accuracy, but there's a fun calculator for playing around with those sorts of taxes.
A 1% tax on Wealth exceeding £10mil would raise £10billion annually.
https://arunadvani.com/taxreform.html [Post edited 12 Sep 2024 17:30]
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| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 22:24 - Sep 12 with 1503 views | J2BLUE |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 17:29 - Sep 12 by DanTheMan |
Not sure on the accuracy, but there's a fun calculator for playing around with those sorts of taxes.
A 1% tax on Wealth exceeding £10mil would raise £10billion annually.
https://arunadvani.com/taxreform.html [Post edited 12 Sep 2024 17:30]
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Interesting cheers.
Plenty of decent ideas there. Really have to hope they have an excellent budget lined up but they have been pretty crap so far.
Still, early days and i'll give them a chance. | |
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| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 08:11 - Sep 13 with 1301 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 03:54 - Sep 13 by Zapers |
I have no idea what you are talking about, and you have the audacity to suggest that I'm all over the place 
You are so rattled, you have responded to the wrong poster, try Leaky  |
Given you replied to a question to him, it's no real surprise I got you muddled up.
So I'll ask you then, how is voting for Corbyn once remotely comparable to voting independent every time as a protest? | |
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| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 08:39 - Sep 13 with 1271 views | Zapers |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 08:11 - Sep 13 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Given you replied to a question to him, it's no real surprise I got you muddled up.
So I'll ask you then, how is voting for Corbyn once remotely comparable to voting independent every time as a protest? |
Nothings a surprise with you | | | |
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