| Man City players to go on strike... 16:03 - Sep 17 with 6210 views | Funge |
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/sep/17/rodri-players-close-to-striking
I mean, I can't think of too many players that have it worse than the Man City squad - this course of action would seem fully justified to me.
They have my full support; here's hoping that their working conditions and recompense are adjusted to reflect their terrible circumstances. |  | | |  |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 16:09 - Sep 17 with 4415 views | Illinoisblue |
One solution is to scrap international qualifiers and friendlies. Just have national teams meet at end of season and have a straight knockout tournament. Play every other day until there’s a winner. |  |
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| Man City players to go on strike... on 16:12 - Sep 17 with 4373 views | BseaBlue |
It would be slightly ironic wouldn't it.
Having said that, 63 games does sound a bit mad and 85 (albeit that could be exaggerated) is a cause for concern. I did wonder whether the footballing authorities will just increase the squad size quotas to appease clubs and keep the extra games so they dont lose out on the additional revenue.
Of course then you have more chance of your Chelsea's etc hoarding players. |  | | |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 16:17 - Sep 17 with 4302 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 16:12 - Sep 17 by BseaBlue |
It would be slightly ironic wouldn't it.
Having said that, 63 games does sound a bit mad and 85 (albeit that could be exaggerated) is a cause for concern. I did wonder whether the footballing authorities will just increase the squad size quotas to appease clubs and keep the extra games so they dont lose out on the additional revenue.
Of course then you have more chance of your Chelsea's etc hoarding players. |
John Wark played 64 matches in one season. And that was when there were 1 or 2 subs and players played 90 mins nearly every match.
To be fair, thats what the squads are for. Lets face it, Rodri wont appear in many FA Cup or EFL Cup games, so we can discount them immediately. |  |
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| Man City players to go on strike... on 16:21 - Sep 17 with 4267 views | LittleBoyBlue1 |
Squad rotation. Problem solves. |  | | |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 16:23 - Sep 17 with 4248 views | MattinLondon |
I can see the League Cup being scrapped along with the Nations League.
Unfortunately the boring group stages (or whatever it is now) of the Champions League be limited as it’s far too lucrative. |  | | |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 16:24 - Sep 17 with 4236 views | BseaBlue |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 16:17 - Sep 17 by Marshalls_Mullet |
John Wark played 64 matches in one season. And that was when there were 1 or 2 subs and players played 90 mins nearly every match.
To be fair, thats what the squads are for. Lets face it, Rodri wont appear in many FA Cup or EFL Cup games, so we can discount them immediately. |
I think the counter argument is meant to be that the game is faster and more athletic these days, plus the sports science, player welfare factored in etc.
I personally think the rubbish international friendlies and nations league are unnecessary. | | | |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 16:26 - Sep 17 with 4208 views | BseaBlue |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 16:23 - Sep 17 by MattinLondon |
I can see the League Cup being scrapped along with the Nations League.
Unfortunately the boring group stages (or whatever it is now) of the Champions League be limited as it’s far too lucrative. |
Yep....and seems like the natural progression to the european super league. | | | |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 16:29 - Sep 17 with 4176 views | Freddies_Ears |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 16:24 - Sep 17 by BseaBlue |
I think the counter argument is meant to be that the game is faster and more athletic these days, plus the sports science, player welfare factored in etc.
I personally think the rubbish international friendlies and nations league are unnecessary. |
I'd note though that the Nations League gives lower-ranked countries competitive fixtures against their peers.
I'd get rid of the bloated and mostly boring Euros tournament, and replace it with the Nations League. | | | |
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| Man City players to go on strike... on 16:30 - Sep 17 with 4169 views | Mookamoo |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 16:12 - Sep 17 by BseaBlue |
It would be slightly ironic wouldn't it.
Having said that, 63 games does sound a bit mad and 85 (albeit that could be exaggerated) is a cause for concern. I did wonder whether the footballing authorities will just increase the squad size quotas to appease clubs and keep the extra games so they dont lose out on the additional revenue.
Of course then you have more chance of your Chelsea's etc hoarding players. |
There has to be some movement on squad sizes. It makes sense to allow a clubs to have a bigger european squad. The trouble is the Premier League and UEFA both think they're the biggest fish in the tank so will need to keep their squads of 25.
Maybe allow a system like the have in the US, where you have injured reserve lists allowing the club to add a different player, thus reducing the stress on the existing squad. The injured player then has to be unavailable for both domestic and european games for a set period of time. |  | | |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 16:43 - Sep 17 with 4084 views | itfcsuth |
Whilst I understand there is a lot of games, there is purpose to having 25 man squads, and when you can do it on obscene budgets it's always handy.
Ederson
Walker - Stones - Dias - Ake
De Bruyne - Rodri - Kovacic
Foden - Haaland - Doku
Ortega
Lewis - Stones - Akanji - Gvardiol
Silva - Gundogan - Nunes
Savinho - Haaland - Grealish
Almost two ridiculously good seperate teams. |  | | |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 16:49 - Sep 17 with 4038 views | NedPlimpton |
Whilst there are definitely too many games and UEFA and FIFA competitions need to stop adding more teams for the sake of it....
Something has definitely gone wrong somewhere if a player believes the optimal amount of games is between 40 and 50. That's literally just league games and bit of a domestic cup run. Not including any internationals or European competitions
Maybe sports science needs to have a bit more of a focus on endurance so players can last the course of such a gruelling season! |  | | |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 16:54 - Sep 17 with 3974 views | FrimleyBlue |
Here's an idea
Use the whole squad not just the same players.
Job done. |  |
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| Man City players to go on strike... on 17:05 - Sep 17 with 3904 views | MK1 |
If only they could rest their very best players and play their far from average players instead. If only their bench was full of top class Internationals to rotate with. Imagine if they had a squad like ours, then they wouldn't be moaning so much. I feel for them, I really do. |  |
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| Man City players to go on strike... on 17:06 - Sep 17 with 3869 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 16:24 - Sep 17 by BseaBlue |
I think the counter argument is meant to be that the game is faster and more athletic these days, plus the sports science, player welfare factored in etc.
I personally think the rubbish international friendlies and nations league are unnecessary. |
The counter argument to that is the appaling pitches they played on back then, the fact the game was far more physical, and the lower fitness levels kind of evens it up. | |
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| Man City players to go on strike... on 17:09 - Sep 17 with 3838 views | bluejacko |
Are these the players that will be without a club when they get closed down?😂🤞 | | | |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 17:13 - Sep 17 with 3798 views | MK1 |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 17:09 - Sep 17 by bluejacko |
Are these the players that will be without a club when they get closed down?😂🤞 |
No. That's Norwich. | |
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| Man City players to go on strike... on 17:15 - Sep 17 with 3771 views | positivity |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 17:05 - Sep 17 by MK1 |
If only they could rest their very best players and play their far from average players instead. If only their bench was full of top class Internationals to rotate with. Imagine if they had a squad like ours, then they wouldn't be moaning so much. I feel for them, I really do. |
don't say that now, we want them to play their very best players in all the games against our rivals! | |
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| Man City players to go on strike... on 17:21 - Sep 17 with 3693 views | MK1 |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 17:15 - Sep 17 by positivity |
don't say that now, we want them to play their very best players in all the games against our rivals! |
Their second and third string will be to good for any bottom 6 clubs. | |
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| Man City players to go on strike... on 17:22 - Sep 17 with 3691 views | Asa |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 16:26 - Sep 17 by BseaBlue |
Yep....and seems like the natural progression to the european super league. |
I'd be quite happy for them all to disappear into one.
Make a European Super League of 32 clubs like the MLS. No promotion. No relegation. Two conferences of 16 teams each, they play 30 matches and then there is a seeded playoffs.
All the plastic fans can support that like they do with the Premier League anyway. It caters for all your overseas fans from North America, Africa, Asia and they can watch Chelsea v Real Madrid and Inter Milan v PSG until their heart is content.
Meanwhile the domestic league here cracks on as it was without 5 or 6 teams. Villa and Newcastle become the new Man City or Liverpool. Money is properly distributed and the real fans of Ipswich, Forest, Bolton, Accrington, Sutton etc carry on as normal just without the few greedy enough to want to leave their own country and pyramid.
Of course the TV revenue will take a hit but with all the superstars clearing off for £500k a week to play in this new venture, then the wages will go down a bit here too and we'll still be left with a bloody good standard of football at the 'top'. | | | |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 17:33 - Sep 17 with 3601 views | MattinLondon |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 16:26 - Sep 17 by BseaBlue |
Yep....and seems like the natural progression to the european super league. |
Think the biggest mistake in modern day football was not allowing the European Super League to form. On the condition that they resign their place in their domestics leagues and not allowing their players to be considered for international duty.
Edit. I would allow players to see out their contracts before enforcing a ban. [Post edited 17 Sep 2024 17:49]
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| Man City players to go on strike... on 17:38 - Sep 17 with 3569 views | MK1 |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 17:22 - Sep 17 by Asa |
I'd be quite happy for them all to disappear into one.
Make a European Super League of 32 clubs like the MLS. No promotion. No relegation. Two conferences of 16 teams each, they play 30 matches and then there is a seeded playoffs.
All the plastic fans can support that like they do with the Premier League anyway. It caters for all your overseas fans from North America, Africa, Asia and they can watch Chelsea v Real Madrid and Inter Milan v PSG until their heart is content.
Meanwhile the domestic league here cracks on as it was without 5 or 6 teams. Villa and Newcastle become the new Man City or Liverpool. Money is properly distributed and the real fans of Ipswich, Forest, Bolton, Accrington, Sutton etc carry on as normal just without the few greedy enough to want to leave their own country and pyramid.
Of course the TV revenue will take a hit but with all the superstars clearing off for £500k a week to play in this new venture, then the wages will go down a bit here too and we'll still be left with a bloody good standard of football at the 'top'. |
If only it was that simple. The TV money would be next to nothing and any half decent players will be poached straight away. Think the standard would drop off pretty quickly and most sides would really struggle financially. The lower league clubs would probably end up with less than they are currently getting. | |
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| Man City players to go on strike... on 17:39 - Sep 17 with 3561 views | Esseeja |
This is getting boring. They already scrapped the FA Cup replays that were so lucrative to clubs like Lincoln when they beat us in the replay. They probably would not be where they are today without that replay and subsequent win.
the top 3 EFL leagues have 46 games in a season, 8 more than the PL, but that's the MINIMUM;
because if they finish in the play-offs, that's an extra 2 or 3 games that season.
League One and Two have a joke of a competition they have to compete in, that's, at minimum, an extra 3 games MINIMUM.
They also start in round 1 of the Carabao Cup, an extra game on top of that, MINIMUM.
League 1 and 2 clubs start the FA Cup 2 rounds earlier, that's an extra game MINIMUM.
That takes the total to 51 games, MINIMUM.
When Man City won the treble, they played 60 games.
Bolton, from league one, played 59 times that season. Keep in mind, however, that Manchester City have the squad depth that Bolton do not to play as many times as they do, as they keep progressing in these competitions.
The EFL Cup alone has only had 5 winners outside of the top 6 since 1999
The FA cup alone has only had 4 winners outside of the top 6 since 1989
Therefore, it's easy to conclude that the top teams are still progressing through these competitions with relative ease in recent years, most recent examples including using an almost entirely different 11 to their first team.
These complaints would make sense if they cared for the entire pyramid of English Football. They don't. We know they don't.
I agree that the UCL, UEL, and UECL changes are dumb, and that the Pizza trophy shouldn't really exist, but this is pathetic.
Born after it happened, but does anyone remember Man United withdrawing from the FA Cup? | | | |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 17:46 - Sep 17 with 3492 views | Vaughan8 |
I doubt he means champions league and Premier League games.
Lets be honest, this Nations League nonsense can be scrapped.
Also this club world cup thing. Why is it extended to 32 teams? The format before was just fine. Just a bit of a "fun" tournament.
EDIT: I know why..............Money! [Post edited 17 Sep 2024 17:46]
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| Man City players to go on strike... on 17:48 - Sep 17 with 3467 views | Vaughan8 |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 17:33 - Sep 17 by MattinLondon |
Think the biggest mistake in modern day football was not allowing the European Super League to form. On the condition that they resign their place in their domestics leagues and not allowing their players to be considered for international duty.
Edit. I would allow players to see out their contracts before enforcing a ban. [Post edited 17 Sep 2024 17:49]
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Years ago I was against this European league.
But its becoming more and more money grabbing. Just let them do it.
OK the Premier League would suffer a bit to start of with, but you'd hope it would be a lot more competitive. | | | |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 17:50 - Sep 17 with 3426 views | MattinLondon |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 17:48 - Sep 17 by Vaughan8 |
Years ago I was against this European league.
But its becoming more and more money grabbing. Just let them do it.
OK the Premier League would suffer a bit to start of with, but you'd hope it would be a lot more competitive. |
If memory serves me right it was a closed league - a bit like the Champions League group stages it would have just become increasingly boring. | | | |
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