| Sophie Ridge 19:09 - Sep 18 with 5570 views | peterleeblue |
programme tonight.
Getting stuck into Kier Starmer.
No wonder this country is Sh!te. The media 100% to blame. |  | | |  |
| Sophie Ridge on 01:41 - Sep 19 with 1610 views | Zapers |
| Sophie Ridge on 20:52 - Sep 18 by peterleeblue |
Irrelevant.
Thread is about Freebies not winter fuel allowance. |
I thought you would embrace the freedom that living in a democracy brings.
Seems not, you are now telling posters what they can or cannot post on your precious thread  |  | | |
| Sophie Ridge on 02:35 - Sep 19 with 1573 views | Zapers |
| Sophie Ridge on 20:31 - Sep 18 by Ftnfwest |
‘Two Taylor Swift concerts Kier’? |
‘Sir freebie’ | | | |
| Sophie Ridge on 04:16 - Sep 19 with 1556 views | Benters |
| Sophie Ridge on 19:46 - Sep 18 by gtsb1966 |
He has started shoite so far to be fair. |
This. |  |
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| Sophie Ridge on 08:02 - Sep 19 with 1480 views | Churchman |
I can’t abide the media, not least because most of it is lies, half truths or plain fantasy. However, it does have a role to play in holding people to account Maybe it’d have a bigger, more respected role if the truth was the first thing they were after and not the last.
I’ve no problem with public figures being held to account for their actions whether it’s appalling Johnson, his alien friend taking a jolly to Barnard Castle while we stayed indoors or Sir Kier Starmer and his free stuff/expenses - see attached re travel.
https://www.declassifieduk.org/revealed-keir-starmer-billed-taxpayer-nearly-2500
The difference between Starmer and the other two I mention is that he’s done nothing illegal. He’s just milked the system.
Where it gets difficult for me is that he can’t really talk about every £1 of public money being precious unless it’s applied to everything including himself. As I say, he’s not fiddled anything, from what’s been reported, just shaken the system down to the max. You don’t become a multi millionaire with a £1m pension pot (annual) to come without being savvy with money.
There is a problem with image and how this looks and to an extent it compromises him. Personally, providing he stays within the law/rules, it’s his affair as is the raised eyebrows he might get if his free stuff declarations are greater in five years than the next five MPs put together.
When it comes to it, what’s important is what he and the government actually do. I’m bored of hearing how it’s all the last shower’s fault. We know that and heard exactly the same from the Tories while they were busy devising new ways to wreck the country.
Here’s an idea - try doing what’s right (e.g. see discussion on Brexit) instead of what’s good for your party. A novel idea not seen in this country since, I dunno, Alfred the Great battered the Vikings in 878 or Cromwell chopped Charles 1st in 1649 just before the 4th round of the FA Cup. [Post edited 19 Sep 2024 8:04]
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| Sophie Ridge on 08:09 - Sep 19 with 1472 views | DJR |
| Sophie Ridge on 20:38 - Sep 18 by Ftnfwest |
I’ll pass on this as I’ve met Cherie Blair. Not a pleasant experience |
I have too. She attended a football final that my Cabinet Office football team played in at Dulwich Hamlet, and later invited our team to No. 10.
She came across to me as a thoroughly nice person, as would befit a scouser. [Post edited 19 Sep 2024 8:23]
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| Sophie Ridge on 08:21 - Sep 19 with 1436 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
£40,000 just on football tickets. That Corbyn fella clearly missed a trick. |  |
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| Sophie Ridge on 08:26 - Sep 19 with 1421 views | DJR |
| Sophie Ridge on 08:21 - Sep 19 by BanksterDebtSlave |
£40,000 just on football tickets. That Corbyn fella clearly missed a trick. |
Rather than "country first, party second" I think it's a case of "Starmer first, Mrs Starmer second".
But I suppose this is what happens when the party ends up having no principles and standing for nothing. [Post edited 19 Sep 2024 8:28]
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| Sophie Ridge on 09:19 - Sep 19 with 1353 views | Leaky |
| Sophie Ridge on 23:48 - Sep 18 by FromReuserWithLove |
The people who parrot these katie hopkins type 'slurs' haven't the foggiest....
Woke...
Marxist...
Stop the boats...
All lives matter...
fake news... |
Well we did have one poster kept calling Johnson Bloater what ever happened to said poster |  | | |
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| Sophie Ridge on 09:23 - Sep 19 with 1329 views | Zapers |
| Sophie Ridge on 09:19 - Sep 19 by Leaky |
Well we did have one poster kept calling Johnson Bloater what ever happened to said poster |
Yes I was surprised that admin tolerated his/her body shaming for so long. Luckily he or she finally disappeared. | | | |
| Sophie Ridge on 09:27 - Sep 19 with 1307 views | BlueBadger |
| Sophie Ridge on 19:47 - Sep 18 by bluejacko |
Still making stupid statements I see then! |
It's a question, not a statement mate.
I'll rephrase as you're clearly struggling.
'So, I see you're still upset about violent nazis getting arrested for their criminal behaviour then'? |  |
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| Sophie Ridge on 09:29 - Sep 19 with 1293 views | NthQldITFC |
| Sophie Ridge on 08:09 - Sep 19 by DJR |
I have too. She attended a football final that my Cabinet Office football team played in at Dulwich Hamlet, and later invited our team to No. 10.
She came across to me as a thoroughly nice person, as would befit a scouser. [Post edited 19 Sep 2024 8:23]
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On skim reading that, I thought you'd invited her to play as a number 10 in your team! More centre-mid was my immediate thought. |  |
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| Sophie Ridge on 10:01 - Sep 19 with 1248 views | Trequartista |
A journalist's job is to get stuck in, not pander to a politician. What a strange thing to say. |  |
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| Sophie Ridge on 10:38 - Sep 19 with 1159 views | MattinLondon |
I have no problem with a football loving PM of either party going to a match. If a PM disliked football but still attended in order to look good to the public, then that’s when I have a problem. |  | | |
| Sophie Ridge on 10:41 - Sep 19 with 1145 views | giant_stow |
| Sophie Ridge on 10:38 - Sep 19 by MattinLondon |
I have no problem with a football loving PM of either party going to a match. If a PM disliked football but still attended in order to look good to the public, then that’s when I have a problem. |
I think his love of footy is most demonstrated by him playing it into his 60s (and incidentally, playing it with very normal people, one of whom I also play with... these are ordinary people, so portraying him as some kind of elitist is all wrong (not that you were)) |  |
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| Sophie Ridge on 10:43 - Sep 19 with 1130 views | jaykay |
| Sophie Ridge on 19:23 - Sep 18 by Leaky |
Or how many pensioner's freeze to death this winter |
i wonder how many pensioners labour have saved since they introduced the winter payment. which was for the over 60s , then some government upped the age to over 65 in 2010. |  |
| forensic experts say footers and spruces fingerprints were not found at the scene after the weekends rows |
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| Sophie Ridge on 10:44 - Sep 19 with 1123 views | DJR |
| Sophie Ridge on 10:38 - Sep 19 by MattinLondon |
I have no problem with a football loving PM of either party going to a match. If a PM disliked football but still attended in order to look good to the public, then that’s when I have a problem. |
The point I was trying to make (in an ironic way) is that Corbyn was sat amongst the hoi polloi and presumably paid for his own seat, which appears to be in marked contrast to the way Starmer behaved as leader of the opposition. [Post edited 19 Sep 2024 10:47]
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| Sophie Ridge on 10:45 - Sep 19 with 1118 views | brazil1982 |
| Sophie Ridge on 19:54 - Sep 18 by Mullet |
Really not sure Tories want to go down the “who killed Granny?” Dog whistle stuff after the way they handled Covid and the care home stuff.
Especially when there’s no evidence that stopping the winter fuel allowance will have that effect. |
A Labour report in 2017 suggested proposed cuts to the allowance then could lead to 4000 deaths. |  | | |
| Sophie Ridge on 10:47 - Sep 19 with 1100 views | Zapers |
| Sophie Ridge on 10:38 - Sep 19 by MattinLondon |
I have no problem with a football loving PM of either party going to a match. If a PM disliked football but still attended in order to look good to the public, then that’s when I have a problem. |
What about all the other freebies since 2019? Circa GBP107,000 and still counting. | | | |
| Sophie Ridge on 10:59 - Sep 19 with 1064 views | Dubtractor |
My thoughts, for what it's worth.....
I work in the public sector, and we have to declare pretty much anything we receive as hospitality or gifts, even to point of sometimes considering if its appropriate to accept a buffet lunch from a contractor. That's all fine, and accepted as part of the job, but the decisions I make are pretty inconsequential compared to the PM.
I thought it was dubious when Johnson was getting all his freebies (wallpaper etc), and I feel the same about Starmer. FWIW, I'd pay them more, but ban any acceptance of gifts and hospitality unless it is deemed part of the job, such as tickets at the Olympics. |  |
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| Sophie Ridge on 11:12 - Sep 19 with 1019 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Sophie Ridge on 10:59 - Sep 19 by Dubtractor |
My thoughts, for what it's worth.....
I work in the public sector, and we have to declare pretty much anything we receive as hospitality or gifts, even to point of sometimes considering if its appropriate to accept a buffet lunch from a contractor. That's all fine, and accepted as part of the job, but the decisions I make are pretty inconsequential compared to the PM.
I thought it was dubious when Johnson was getting all his freebies (wallpaper etc), and I feel the same about Starmer. FWIW, I'd pay them more, but ban any acceptance of gifts and hospitality unless it is deemed part of the job, such as tickets at the Olympics. |
Its transparent. As it should be. Big difference from the kast government. | | | |
| Sophie Ridge on 11:35 - Sep 19 with 973 views | Zapers |
| Sophie Ridge on 11:12 - Sep 19 by redrickstuhaart |
Its transparent. As it should be. Big difference from the kast government. |
I'm not sure that is correct, my understanding is that some of it went undisclosed. | | | |
| Sophie Ridge on 11:50 - Sep 19 with 940 views | MattinLondon |
| Sophie Ridge on 10:47 - Sep 19 by Zapers |
What about all the other freebies since 2019? Circa GBP107,000 and still counting. |
Could be worse, could have given billions of pounds in contracts to his mates during Covid.
Is that whatabouty or not?? | | | |
| Sophie Ridge on 12:27 - Sep 19 with 889 views | Zapers |
| Sophie Ridge on 11:50 - Sep 19 by MattinLondon |
Could be worse, could have given billions of pounds in contracts to his mates during Covid.
Is that whatabouty or not?? |
No I’d call it hypocrisy. | | | |
| Sophie Ridge on 12:53 - Sep 19 with 832 views | BlueForYou |
Labour are getting the same tough questioning that the previous government got. So far they are as dreadful handling it as they are at governing! |  | | |
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