| A German managing England? 12:17 - Oct 15 with 11392 views | SitfcB |
Worlds gone mad. |  |
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| A German managing England? on 16:12 - Oct 15 with 1480 views | DanTheMan |
| A German managing England? on 14:49 - Oct 15 by itfcjoe |
All the major footballing nations do, Greece the only country to win a major tournament with a foreign manager.
I couldn't imagine Germany, Italy, Netherlands or Spain having a foreign manager and we should be past that with what we've spent on St Georges park over the last 25 years. |
I think a big part of the issue is that most of those countries have strong representation in their top leagues which we currently don't.
As of right now, we have 5 (being generous by including Cooper and McKenna in that).
In Germany, they have 9.
Italy has 16.
The Netherlands has 13.
Spain has 15. |  |
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| A German managing England? on 16:14 - Oct 15 with 1458 views | LittleBoyBlue1 |
| A German managing England? on 16:12 - Oct 15 by DanTheMan |
I think a big part of the issue is that most of those countries have strong representation in their top leagues which we currently don't.
As of right now, we have 5 (being generous by including Cooper and McKenna in that).
In Germany, they have 9.
Italy has 16.
The Netherlands has 13.
Spain has 15. |
We're claiming McKenna are we?
And a good portion of those leagues you mentioned have fewer teams too! |  | | |
| A German managing England? on 16:16 - Oct 15 with 1449 views | DanTheMan |
| A German managing England? on 16:14 - Oct 15 by LittleBoyBlue1 |
We're claiming McKenna are we?
And a good portion of those leagues you mentioned have fewer teams too! |
As I say, being very generous! Cooper is Welsh as well, which would take us down to 3. | |
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| A German managing England? on 16:20 - Oct 15 with 1427 views | itfcjoe |
| A German managing England? on 16:12 - Oct 15 by DanTheMan |
I think a big part of the issue is that most of those countries have strong representation in their top leagues which we currently don't.
As of right now, we have 5 (being generous by including Cooper and McKenna in that).
In Germany, they have 9.
Italy has 16.
The Netherlands has 13.
Spain has 15. |
For me though, we should be looking at the 15 (or 17) foreign managers who are here currently, or have spent large periods of their career managing in an England than someone like a Tuchel |  |
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| A German managing England? on 16:21 - Oct 15 with 1407 views | MK1 |
I don't care that he is German, just that he isn't English. |  |
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| A German managing England? on 16:21 - Oct 15 with 1406 views | DanTheMan |
| A German managing England? on 16:20 - Oct 15 by itfcjoe |
For me though, we should be looking at the 15 (or 17) foreign managers who are here currently, or have spent large periods of their career managing in an England than someone like a Tuchel |
That's fair if we do want to go down that route.
I do wonder whether Guardiola would want it. | |
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| A German managing England? on 16:23 - Oct 15 with 1393 views | MK1 |
| A German managing England? on 16:21 - Oct 15 by DanTheMan |
That's fair if we do want to go down that route.
I do wonder whether Guardiola would want it. |
Very much doubt it. PSG his most likely next destination. | |
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| A German managing England? on 16:28 - Oct 15 with 1387 views | itfcjoe |
| A German managing England? on 16:21 - Oct 15 by DanTheMan |
That's fair if we do want to go down that route.
I do wonder whether Guardiola would want it. |
He's been very careful to not rule it out, even when talking at the weekend.
For a manager who has won everything in the club game, there must be some desire to try and win an international trophy.
He can't manage Spain - so realistically it's either England, Brazil, USA or one of the Oil states who could afford him and if want to win something that really leaves us or Brazil. | |
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| A German managing England? on 16:30 - Oct 15 with 1376 views | MattinLondon |
| A German managing England? on 15:03 - Oct 15 by ReusersTown |
I think the whole point of international football may have gone over your head. |
Yeah, winning stuff is overrated. |  | | |
| A German managing England? on 16:31 - Oct 15 with 1373 views | MattinLondon |
| A German managing England? on 15:00 - Oct 15 by itfcjoe |
Yes, Portugal especially with it's close ties to Brazil - and Belgium a country where the 2 halves of it speak a different first language so would imagine there's less of a Belgian identity to get behind sporting wise
But the major European leagues 'the big 5' are England, Spain, Germany, Italy and France and they should all have enough infrastructure to have enough coaches etc to not need to go for a foreign manager - plus the Dutch are excellent with their coach education and leagues. |
Close links! So you wouldn’t object to an Australian, American etc being given the job? | | | |
| A German managing England? on 16:47 - Oct 15 with 1329 views | Woolfenthen |
| A German managing England? on 14:22 - Oct 15 by itfcjoe |
I think people may be surprised at how quickly things can fall apart from what has been an incredible culture over the last few years - there is talk of having all the talent now, but managing to retain that culture with all the egos there now is going to be incredibly difficult.
Tuchel's record in managing egos and difficult situations, and then having pressure on him for being the England manager doesn't fill me with great hope if he were to get the job.
Effectively, you just have to try and get it right for the the knockout phases at a tournament every 2 years, and everything else is just noise - it's similar to when he was at PSG where only thing that matters was knockouts of the Champions League
I don't want to go foreign personally, think it is an embarrassment for a developed and top footballing nation to need to do so - but if we do I would only really want someone who is steeped in the English game like a Pep or a Klopp, or an Arteta. To move away from the top echelon of managers I'd be happier with Thomas Frank than Thomas Tuchel as want someone to have that full understanding of the English game. |
Thomas Frank is an exceptional manager, if United had any sense they'd push the boat out for him |  | | |
| A German managing England? on 16:51 - Oct 15 with 1314 views | Swansea_Blue |
| A German managing England? on 13:52 - Oct 15 by FromReuserWithLove |
I get that sentiment but isn't the whole point of international football to be the best of what your country can offer - including coaching staff?
Seems obvious to me but doesn't seem to be the case. |
It hasn't really been like that for years, maybe decades. Although I'd agree there's a strong argument to go down that route more strictly that international football has. |  |
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| A German managing England? on 17:06 - Oct 15 with 1288 views | LittleBoyBlue1 |
| A German managing England? on 16:47 - Oct 15 by Woolfenthen |
Thomas Frank is an exceptional manager, if United had any sense they'd push the boat out for him |
Said Chelsea about Potter | | | |
| A German managing England? on 17:25 - Oct 15 with 1275 views | Ryorry |
| A German managing England? on 16:21 - Oct 15 by MK1 |
I don't care that he is German, just that he isn't English. |
I care that he’s German because of our *football* history with them, not any other history. It’d be like having sold our soul to win a major tournament.
Winning at any cost would never be an option I’d feel happy with. |  |
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| A German managing England? on 17:34 - Oct 15 with 1261 views | Pinewoodblue |
| A German managing England? on 16:14 - Oct 15 by LittleBoyBlue1 |
We're claiming McKenna are we?
And a good portion of those leagues you mentioned have fewer teams too! |
Kieran McKenna was born in London. |  |
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| A German managing England? on 17:40 - Oct 15 with 1253 views | MK1 |
| A German managing England? on 17:25 - Oct 15 by Ryorry |
I care that he’s German because of our *football* history with them, not any other history. It’d be like having sold our soul to win a major tournament.
Winning at any cost would never be an option I’d feel happy with. |
That's fair. I would only want an English manager in charge of England. We have been down the foreign route before and it didn't work. I know more English managers have failed, but I still prefer an English manager. I would rather have Potter, Howe or even Lampard than Tuchel. Sounds crazy, as I actually think Tuchel is a very good manager, just not for the English national side. | |
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| A German managing England? on 17:41 - Oct 15 with 1247 views | MK1 |
| A German managing England? on 17:34 - Oct 15 by Pinewoodblue |
Kieran McKenna was born in London. |
I very much doubt Kieran would class himself as English. | |
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| A German managing England? on 17:44 - Oct 15 with 1236 views | Ryorry |
| A German managing England? on 17:40 - Oct 15 by MK1 |
That's fair. I would only want an English manager in charge of England. We have been down the foreign route before and it didn't work. I know more English managers have failed, but I still prefer an English manager. I would rather have Potter, Howe or even Lampard than Tuchel. Sounds crazy, as I actually think Tuchel is a very good manager, just not for the English national side. |
Howe would seem a decent option, albeit I haven't exactly done any in depth research into possible candidates! | |
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| A German managing England? on 17:49 - Oct 15 with 1218 views | MK1 |
| A German managing England? on 17:44 - Oct 15 by Ryorry |
Howe would seem a decent option, albeit I haven't exactly done any in depth research into possible candidates! |
Potter would probably be the cheapest option. Howe has a contract until 2027 I think. | |
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| A German managing England? on 17:49 - Oct 15 with 1217 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| A German managing England? on 14:30 - Oct 15 by LittleBoyBlue1 |
Spot on.
Let's call up Halaand and Mbappe whilst we're at.
Saliba and Gabriel seem to work well together - could offer them a position too. |
Haaland was born in Leeds.
If he had wanted to choose England, I would have been more than happy!! |  |
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| A German managing England? on 18:32 - Oct 15 with 1132 views | SE1blue |
| A German managing England? on 17:25 - Oct 15 by Ryorry |
I care that he’s German because of our *football* history with them, not any other history. It’d be like having sold our soul to win a major tournament.
Winning at any cost would never be an option I’d feel happy with. |
And if we did win a major tournament, you know there would always be someone chiming in saying "Yeah,but it took a German to do it for you." and the feeling that it wasn't fully 'ours'. |  |
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| A German managing England? on 18:44 - Oct 15 with 1101 views | SitfcB |
| A German managing England? on 12:19 - Oct 15 by itfcjoe |
Think it's more that he wants the Man U job so is putting pressure on them |
Don’t think it’s worked 
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| A German managing England? on 18:46 - Oct 15 with 1093 views | GlasgowBlue |
| A German managing England? on 18:44 - Oct 15 by SitfcB |
Don’t think it’s worked
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Here we go.
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| A German managing England? on 18:49 - Oct 15 with 1079 views | LittleBoyBlue1 |
| A German managing England? on 18:32 - Oct 15 by SE1blue |
And if we did win a major tournament, you know there would always be someone chiming in saying "Yeah,but it took a German to do it for you." and the feeling that it wasn't fully 'ours'. |
That's where you draw the line at "ours" 😂
Take it you're not exactly in contention to be called up to the squad | | | |
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