| A German managing England? 12:17 - Oct 15 with 11387 views | SitfcB |
Worlds gone mad. |  |
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| A German managing England? on 19:04 - Oct 15 with 1859 views | You_Bloo_Right |
| A German managing England? on 16:20 - Oct 15 by itfcjoe |
For me though, we should be looking at the 15 (or 17) foreign managers who are here currently, or have spent large periods of their career managing in an England than someone like a Tuchel |
Including Farke? |  |
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| A German managing England? on 19:14 - Oct 15 with 1823 views | SE1blue |
| A German managing England? on 18:49 - Oct 15 by LittleBoyBlue1 |
That's where you draw the line at "ours" 😂
Take it you're not exactly in contention to be called up to the squad |
Not sure of the point you are trying to make.
I just feel, as others have stated, that we should be at point where we are able to recruit an English manager to the England manager role. |  |
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| A German managing England? on 19:28 - Oct 15 with 1784 views | itfc48 |
I feel like the original plan was Carsley but then something happened. Either he didn't fancy the press side of the job or dealing with the egos in the team. I get the impression there are a few divides appearing given the competition for places in some positions and a few of the comments in player interviews. |  | | |
| A German managing England? on 19:33 - Oct 15 with 1770 views | Ryorry |
| A German managing England? on 18:32 - Oct 15 by SE1blue |
And if we did win a major tournament, you know there would always be someone chiming in saying "Yeah,but it took a German to do it for you." and the feeling that it wasn't fully 'ours'. |
I'd quite likely be chiming in myself to say ""Yeah,but it took a German to do it for us", because I'd share the feeling that it wasn't fully 'ours' - it'd feel like a hollow victory to me. |  |
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| A German managing England? on 19:34 - Oct 15 with 1761 views | LittleBoyBlue1 |
| A German managing England? on 19:14 - Oct 15 by SE1blue |
Not sure of the point you are trying to make.
I just feel, as others have stated, that we should be at point where we are able to recruit an English manager to the England manager role. |
If someone telling you a German manager helped you win the world cup is earth shattering enough for you to take away from you being able to say it was "our victory" or "we won it" on what basis are you comfortable using the collective in the first place?
Because whether an Englishman or German brings it home "we" did about the exact same amount of effort | | | |
| A German managing England? on 19:36 - Oct 15 with 1750 views | Kieran_Knows |
Wonder if Tuchel will bring Anthony Barry with him. Was with him and Chelsea and Bayern, highly rated coach in similar mould to McKenna. Albeit he seems to have built a relationship with Roberto Martinez as he’s been his assistant with Belgium and Portugal. Possibly long term thinking that he may be able to take the ropes when Tuchel goes. |  |
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| A German managing England? on 19:42 - Oct 15 with 1720 views | Ryorry |
| A German managing England? on 19:28 - Oct 15 by itfc48 |
I feel like the original plan was Carsley but then something happened. Either he didn't fancy the press side of the job or dealing with the egos in the team. I get the impression there are a few divides appearing given the competition for places in some positions and a few of the comments in player interviews. |
He's just not up to it, Not only the team selection & performances, but his whole body language & manner. Pre k/o in internationals, he's looked like he was on his way to manage Rotherham at the Weston Homes Stadium, but took a wrong turning & got lost. | |
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| A German managing England? on 19:48 - Oct 15 with 1697 views | Swansea_Blue |
| A German managing England? on 16:47 - Oct 15 by Woolfenthen |
Thomas Frank is an exceptional manager, if United had any sense they'd push the boat out for him |
But he does come across as a bellend |  |
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| A German managing England? on 19:49 - Oct 15 with 1689 views | textbackup |
Works for me, having German roots and all that |  |
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| A German managing England? on 19:52 - Oct 15 with 1677 views | Perublue |
I embarrassingly know not as much as perhaps should about Tuchel … I’ll give it a shot though , would I be right thinking that somebody like Alexander-Arnold or our very own Leif be happy with this appointment for style of play but not someone like Bellingham for having big personalities ? |  |
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| A German managing England? on 19:53 - Oct 15 with 1669 views | Ryorry |
| A German managing England? on 19:49 - Oct 15 by textbackup |
Works for me, having German roots and all that |
I have German roots too (one set of grandparents) & it doesn't work for me!
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| A German managing England? on 19:57 - Oct 15 with 1646 views | Bluesky |
So if and when we finally beat Germany in a final they will just hollow out the victory with "Yeah but it took a German manager to beat us". Just don't sit well with me - much as I admire Tuchel's talents. |  | | |
| A German managing England? on 20:16 - Oct 15 with 1592 views | SE1blue |
| A German managing England? on 19:34 - Oct 15 by LittleBoyBlue1 |
If someone telling you a German manager helped you win the world cup is earth shattering enough for you to take away from you being able to say it was "our victory" or "we won it" on what basis are you comfortable using the collective in the first place?
Because whether an Englishman or German brings it home "we" did about the exact same amount of effort |
If you had read my post properly, you would see I said that it might feel like it 'wasn't fully ours'. As in, it's still England's having won it but you are sharing an English victory by employing a foreign manager.
So, not exactly 'earth shattering' more disappointing, And again, that's based on the fact we should have good enough English managers, especially with the players at their disposal, to win a tournament with out needing to employ a foreign manager to our national sport.
Tuchel is eligible and he'll get my support, it's just a bit lame that we can't do better internally. | |
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| A German managing England? on 20:19 - Oct 15 with 1580 views | LittleBoyBlue1 |
| A German managing England? on 20:16 - Oct 15 by SE1blue |
If you had read my post properly, you would see I said that it might feel like it 'wasn't fully ours'. As in, it's still England's having won it but you are sharing an English victory by employing a foreign manager.
So, not exactly 'earth shattering' more disappointing, And again, that's based on the fact we should have good enough English managers, especially with the players at their disposal, to win a tournament with out needing to employ a foreign manager to our national sport.
Tuchel is eligible and he'll get my support, it's just a bit lame that we can't do better internally. |
Completely agree we should be able to but there is a dearth of top English managers.
Cricket is our national sport though, in case you end up in a pub quiz anytime soon. | | | |
| A German managing England? on 20:41 - Oct 15 with 1506 views | Perublue |
[quote]Disaster. The guy doesn't know how to man manage.
Damn… Bellingham is going to hate him and vice versa.
I’ve a feeling we’ve lost boring performances and deep progression into tournaments with togetherness and not winning them for an earlier exit but more entertaining play and games but constant personality clashes. | |
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| A German managing England? on 21:23 - Oct 15 with 1409 views | ibbleobble |
I don’t mind a German. I’d have Klopp. I have no interest in Tuchel as a personality or as a professional to give me what I expect though. | | | |
| A German managing England? on 21:53 - Oct 15 with 1383 views | GlasgowBlue |
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| A German managing England? on 21:55 - Oct 15 with 1388 views | PhilTWTD |
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| A German managing England? on 22:35 - Oct 15 with 1311 views | SitfcB |
‘This is a dark day for English football.
We are the laughing stock of the world game’
Tomorrows Daily Mail, Arf.
Press started on him before he’s even officially started himself! [Post edited 15 Oct 2024 22:38]
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| A German managing England? on 22:50 - Oct 15 with 1281 views | Vic |
| A German managing England? on 22:35 - Oct 15 by SitfcB |
‘This is a dark day for English football.
We are the laughing stock of the world game’
Tomorrows Daily Mail, Arf.
Press started on him before he’s even officially started himself! [Post edited 15 Oct 2024 22:38]
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Can’t really say I blame them! Totally underwhelmed by this. He’s absolutely got to get the team rocking from day one. No room for a honeymoon with this guy. He’s got a big job to win me round I’m afraid. |  |
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| A German managing England? on 22:56 - Oct 15 with 1262 views | Ryorry |
| A German managing England? on 19:53 - Oct 15 by Ryorry |
I have German roots too (one set of grandparents) & it doesn't work for me!
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Wow, is this subject so serious that no-one's allowed to joke about it?! | |
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| A German managing England? on 23:25 - Oct 15 with 1232 views | MattinLondon |
| A German managing England? on 22:50 - Oct 15 by Vic |
Can’t really say I blame them! Totally underwhelmed by this. He’s absolutely got to get the team rocking from day one. No room for a honeymoon with this guy. He’s got a big job to win me round I’m afraid. |
If he wins the first couple of games, most fans wouldn’t care what nationality is. Those that do, well they are just dinosaurs. [Post edited 15 Oct 2024 23:34]
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| A German managing England? on 06:23 - Oct 16 with 1086 views | franz_tyson |
If he gets us playing good, attacking football that gets me to look forward to watching England again - don't care where he's from.
It's just been boring for the most part. International football has become really boring where it's become almost impossible not to qualify for the tournament and to get out of the group stages.
Can't remember when England played good watchable football over a reasonable period of time. It's been dull, attritional football where we've got enough class players to dig us out of trouble and get us to the later stages of tournaments. | | | |
| A German managing England? on 08:30 - Oct 16 with 963 views | Dubtractor |
| A German managing England? on 22:35 - Oct 15 by SitfcB |
‘This is a dark day for English football.
We are the laughing stock of the world game’
Tomorrows Daily Mail, Arf.
Press started on him before he’s even officially started himself! [Post edited 15 Oct 2024 22:38]
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I like this one.
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| A German managing England? on 08:38 - Oct 16 with 952 views | SheffordBlue |
| A German managing England? on 19:36 - Oct 15 by Kieran_Knows |
Wonder if Tuchel will bring Anthony Barry with him. Was with him and Chelsea and Bayern, highly rated coach in similar mould to McKenna. Albeit he seems to have built a relationship with Roberto Martinez as he’s been his assistant with Belgium and Portugal. Possibly long term thinking that he may be able to take the ropes when Tuchel goes. |
And whether Ashley Cole will stay. He's only just been give a full time role and presumably was given a contract of a couple of years to get him to do that rather than stay on the money (and probably promotion) train at Birmingham. | |
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