Booing the knee from itfc fans? 18:10 - Oct 20 with 27658 views | Mullet | Was this particularly widespread/loud? This clip seems to pick up one fella or so. Obviously, anyone doing it is an ignorant prick but I’d hope it’s totally isolated. |  |
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Booing the knee from itfc fans? on 13:28 - Oct 21 with 1412 views | CrockerITFC |
Booing the knee from itfc fans? on 13:19 - Oct 21 by Europablue | I'll name you one English manager who has won the Premier League when you name me one foreign manager who has ever won a world cup. |
Thanks for the laugh! I needed a laugh |  | |  |
Booing the knee from itfc fans? on 13:30 - Oct 21 with 1397 views | Europablue |
Booing the knee from itfc fans? on 09:11 - Oct 21 by Mullet | Does always feel like a minority in fairness. I’m sure I saw someone with a Farage sticker on a top hat at Southampton but was too far away to be sure. Always felt like that’s the type of moron who’d not be tolerated rather than us having a major issue. |
Nonsense, an ITFC fan can be a Farage supporter or a Corbynista, but I'd rather they kept that to themselves at a football match. |  | |  |
Booing the knee from itfc fans? on 13:32 - Oct 21 with 1376 views | positivity |
Booing the knee from itfc fans? on 13:30 - Oct 21 by Europablue | Nonsense, an ITFC fan can be a Farage supporter or a Corbynista, but I'd rather they kept that to themselves at a football match. |
wearing a farage sticker on a top hat isn't keeping it to themselves! |  |
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Booing the knee from itfc fans? on 13:33 - Oct 21 with 1363 views | noggin |
Booing the knee from itfc fans? on 13:32 - Oct 21 by positivity | wearing a farage sticker on a top hat isn't keeping it to themselves! |
You can bet he was booing the knee as well. |  |
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Booing the knee from itfc fans? on 13:34 - Oct 21 with 1350 views | Europablue |
Booing the knee from itfc fans? on 13:18 - Oct 21 by noggin | So you won't be supporting England until they get an English manager? |
Jump to conclusions why don't you! I just said that people should be able to express their dissatisfaction with a managerial appointment. I prefer Tuchel to Southgate and I supported England under him. I think that managers should be from the country of the national team because it's a national team. It's also embarrassing that we are having to hire a foreign manager. |  | |  |
Booing the knee from itfc fans? on 13:35 - Oct 21 with 1332 views | Europablue |
Booing the knee from itfc fans? on 13:21 - Oct 21 by noggin | I'm not sure what your point is here. Plenty of foreign managers have won world cups. |
No manager foreign to the national side he manages has ever won a world cup. |  | |  |
Booing the knee from itfc fans? on 13:35 - Oct 21 with 1329 views | Mullet |
Booing the knee from itfc fans? on 13:30 - Oct 21 by Europablue | Nonsense, an ITFC fan can be a Farage supporter or a Corbynista, but I'd rather they kept that to themselves at a football match. |
Nonsense indeed. What has being a “Corbynista” got to do with being a thick racist? Let alone “keeping it to yourself”? Almost like your bias is showing (from abroad ironically) |  |
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Booing the knee from itfc fans? on 13:36 - Oct 21 with 1315 views | positivity |
Booing the knee from itfc fans? on 13:34 - Oct 21 by Europablue | Jump to conclusions why don't you! I just said that people should be able to express their dissatisfaction with a managerial appointment. I prefer Tuchel to Southgate and I supported England under him. I think that managers should be from the country of the national team because it's a national team. It's also embarrassing that we are having to hire a foreign manager. |
would you rather be embarassed or good? i'm not the slightest bit embarassed that we've had to hire an irishman to get us up the leagues or that we hired a geordie and an essex boy to get us silverware |  |
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Booing the knee from itfc fans? on 13:38 - Oct 21 with 1287 views | positivity |
Booing the knee from itfc fans? on 13:35 - Oct 21 by Europablue | No manager foreign to the national side he manages has ever won a world cup. |
no english manager has won the cup in the last 58 years. 14 foreign managers have |  |
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Booing the knee from itfc fans? on 13:38 - Oct 21 with 1281 views | Europablue |
Booing the knee from itfc fans? on 13:26 - Oct 21 by CrockerITFC | Exactly, I mean by definition all World Cups apart from 1966 have been won by foreign managers! |
Only by your Anglocentric view of what a foreigner is. I mean a foreigner to the nation they manage. |  | |  |
Booing the knee from itfc fans? on 13:40 - Oct 21 with 1260 views | Europablue |
Booing the knee from itfc fans? on 13:32 - Oct 21 by positivity | wearing a farage sticker on a top hat isn't keeping it to themselves! |
I never said it was. |  | |  |
Booing the knee from itfc fans? on 13:45 - Oct 21 with 1230 views | Europablue |
Booing the knee from itfc fans? on 13:35 - Oct 21 by Mullet | Nonsense indeed. What has being a “Corbynista” got to do with being a thick racist? Let alone “keeping it to yourself”? Almost like your bias is showing (from abroad ironically) |
What has being a thick racist got to do with supporting Farage? I don't even think he's a xenophobe. Wasn't he married to a German woman? A lot of racist people probably do support Farage, but you don't have to be racist to be concerned about immigration. It is that conflation that has meant that the centrists never did anything to keep immigration in check. Jewish people might find a Corbynista racist. I don't think either supporter is inherently racist. People like to jump to conclusions. |  | |  |
Booing the knee from itfc fans? on 13:46 - Oct 21 with 1224 views | Europablue |
Booing the knee from itfc fans? on 13:38 - Oct 21 by positivity | no english manager has won the cup in the last 58 years. 14 foreign managers have |
Again, which one was not representing his own country? |  | |  |
Booing the knee from itfc fans? on 13:50 - Oct 21 with 1196 views | Mullet |
Booing the knee from itfc fans? on 13:45 - Oct 21 by Europablue | What has being a thick racist got to do with supporting Farage? I don't even think he's a xenophobe. Wasn't he married to a German woman? A lot of racist people probably do support Farage, but you don't have to be racist to be concerned about immigration. It is that conflation that has meant that the centrists never did anything to keep immigration in check. Jewish people might find a Corbynista racist. I don't think either supporter is inherently racist. People like to jump to conclusions. |
Why are you an immigrant, no longer here concerned about British immigration? It’s not boat loads of Germans he’s parodying Nazi propaganda against is it? Let’s not be coy here, you’ve jumped in defending him, tried to backpedal and are being obtuse to help yourself do it. Of course his core support are thick racists, he relies on that with his lies and hypocrisy. The only other demographic are mega rich libertarians and racists helping to fund his every grift. Weird how you always step to it for these discussions. |  |
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Booing the knee from itfc fans? on 13:55 - Oct 21 with 1160 views | Ryorry |
Booing the knee from itfc fans? on 21:34 - Oct 20 by Swansea_Blue | If you think Starmer’s government is hard left, it’s probably harder to understand than you realise. Interesting thread though. Or at least an interesting insight into some of the narrative that’s being peddled around taking the knee in the PL. It’s also crackers and frightening, but interesting all the same (assuming this isn’t a Blueas wind up). |
Would be a first for blueas to edit out earlier comments completely, and subject’s too serious for it to be him I think. I’m going for an armchair ‘fan’ from another club. |  |
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Booing the knee from itfc fans? on 13:59 - Oct 21 with 1147 views | CrockerITFC |
Booing the knee from itfc fans? on 13:38 - Oct 21 by Europablue | Only by your Anglocentric view of what a foreigner is. I mean a foreigner to the nation they manage. |
4 German managers have won a world cup, I want a piece of that action. We have a German monarchy, have any issue with that? [Post edited 21 Oct 2024 14:00]
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Booing the knee from itfc fans? on 14:02 - Oct 21 with 1139 views | Ryorry |
Booing the knee from itfc fans? on 13:59 - Oct 21 by CrockerITFC | 4 German managers have won a world cup, I want a piece of that action. We have a German monarchy, have any issue with that? [Post edited 21 Oct 2024 14:00]
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All the RF would qualify to play for England. Tuchel wouldn’t. That’s the point. |  |
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Booing the knee from itfc fans? on 14:14 - Oct 21 with 1111 views | Europablue |
Booing the knee from itfc fans? on 13:36 - Oct 21 by positivity | would you rather be embarassed or good? i'm not the slightest bit embarassed that we've had to hire an irishman to get us up the leagues or that we hired a geordie and an essex boy to get us silverware |
I just don't see the club game as the same as the national game. It is a national embarrassment that we don't have any world class English managers. I don't think anyone could deny that. I just think that national managers should be from the country they manage. Of course that would have to be a rule rather than self-inflicted. As the game is now we have so many foreign players. I definitely see the appeal of all your players being from your local area, that can only enhance the sense of place. My compromise at the club level is that we can adopt a Scot or a Dutchman, or whoever. I am much happier with Tuchel than Capello, who should never have been considered. I actually liked Capello, but you have to speak English fluently to be the England manager! |  | |  |
Booing the knee from itfc fans? on 14:17 - Oct 21 with 1093 views | Swansea_Blue |
Booing the knee from itfc fans? on 14:02 - Oct 21 by Ryorry | All the RF would qualify to play for England. Tuchel wouldn’t. That’s the point. |
I’m guessing Princess Anne as a right winger. Harry left winger. And Andrew is apparently a bit ‘handsy’, so he’s a shoe in for keeper. |  |
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Booing the knee from itfc fans? on 14:22 - Oct 21 with 1081 views | Europablue |
Booing the knee from itfc fans? on 13:50 - Oct 21 by Mullet | Why are you an immigrant, no longer here concerned about British immigration? It’s not boat loads of Germans he’s parodying Nazi propaganda against is it? Let’s not be coy here, you’ve jumped in defending him, tried to backpedal and are being obtuse to help yourself do it. Of course his core support are thick racists, he relies on that with his lies and hypocrisy. The only other demographic are mega rich libertarians and racists helping to fund his every grift. Weird how you always step to it for these discussions. |
Your own bias is showing. I'm backing people to support whatever political party they like and they are still an Ipswich fan. You are far left if you think controlling immigration is inherently racist. Immigrants are just people not inherently demonic or angelic. You should notice that this is the football thread and people like you bring the political stuff here, but I won't be bullied in agreeing with your absolute intolerance and labelling of people you don't even know. It's the worst of the post-Brexit world. My relatives who voted Brexit are not racist *holes, I'm not a saint for voting remain. The people I can't tolerate are those who are intolerant of other people's views. |  | |  |
Booing the knee from itfc fans? on 14:23 - Oct 21 with 1077 views | positivity |
Booing the knee from itfc fans? on 14:14 - Oct 21 by Europablue | I just don't see the club game as the same as the national game. It is a national embarrassment that we don't have any world class English managers. I don't think anyone could deny that. I just think that national managers should be from the country they manage. Of course that would have to be a rule rather than self-inflicted. As the game is now we have so many foreign players. I definitely see the appeal of all your players being from your local area, that can only enhance the sense of place. My compromise at the club level is that we can adopt a Scot or a Dutchman, or whoever. I am much happier with Tuchel than Capello, who should never have been considered. I actually liked Capello, but you have to speak English fluently to be the England manager! |
the rule is that the team have to be from the country. nothing about managers; if you're averse to "foreign" managers, what about coaches, analysts, coach drivers, should we be kitted out only in english-made fabric, only eat english food, never play games abroad? where do you stop? i wasn't in the slightest bit embarassed when we won the euros with a foreign manager, get the best person for the job! |  |
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Booing the knee from itfc fans? on 14:28 - Oct 21 with 1049 views | positivity |
Booing the knee from itfc fans? on 14:22 - Oct 21 by Europablue | Your own bias is showing. I'm backing people to support whatever political party they like and they are still an Ipswich fan. You are far left if you think controlling immigration is inherently racist. Immigrants are just people not inherently demonic or angelic. You should notice that this is the football thread and people like you bring the political stuff here, but I won't be bullied in agreeing with your absolute intolerance and labelling of people you don't even know. It's the worst of the post-Brexit world. My relatives who voted Brexit are not racist *holes, I'm not a saint for voting remain. The people I can't tolerate are those who are intolerant of other people's views. |
"The people I can't tolerate are those who are intolerant of other people's views." says the person who calls footballers ignorant for taking the knee! |  |
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Booing the knee from itfc fans? on 14:29 - Oct 21 with 1045 views | Mullet |
Booing the knee from itfc fans? on 14:22 - Oct 21 by Europablue | Your own bias is showing. I'm backing people to support whatever political party they like and they are still an Ipswich fan. You are far left if you think controlling immigration is inherently racist. Immigrants are just people not inherently demonic or angelic. You should notice that this is the football thread and people like you bring the political stuff here, but I won't be bullied in agreeing with your absolute intolerance and labelling of people you don't even know. It's the worst of the post-Brexit world. My relatives who voted Brexit are not racist *holes, I'm not a saint for voting remain. The people I can't tolerate are those who are intolerant of other people's views. |
You’ve made a hell of a lot up there to cover yourself. Lots of assumptions and projection. I didn’t bring up anything you hadn’t chosen to engage with. Don’t walk down the path then blame me because you’ve fallen flat on your face. As for bullying, you’re the one wading in calling things out and getting the hump when made to look stupid. There was no whatabouts or political redirection from me was there? That makes your last line and attempt to be the reasonable everyman even funnier and desperate. You’re not even consistent with your own schtick in this thread, let alone dodging uncomfortable truths and firing back with a volume of slurry. No wonder you’re so quick to defend National Front Nige et al. |  |
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Booing the knee from itfc fans? on 15:35 - Oct 21 with 908 views | Ryorry |
Booing the knee from itfc fans? on 14:17 - Oct 21 by Swansea_Blue | I’m guessing Princess Anne as a right winger. Harry left winger. And Andrew is apparently a bit ‘handsy’, so he’s a shoe in for keeper. |
Charles & Camilla centre-backs - 'Defenders of the Faith'. A Corgi or 3 always nipping at the oppo's heels in centre-mid. Edward's always up front, so the 9 shirt for him. |  |
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Booing the knee from itfc fans? on 15:35 - Oct 21 with 907 views | Europablue |
Booing the knee from itfc fans? on 14:28 - Oct 21 by positivity | "The people I can't tolerate are those who are intolerant of other people's views." says the person who calls footballers ignorant for taking the knee! |
They are ignorant in their own way. They don't understand the cultural significance of kneeling. It would have been an easy thing to adjust. Most people would have been supportive of a gesture that doesn't have such connotations. The other ignorant thing is taking a movement directly from the US without thought to how the UK is different from the US. I understand that they are not aware of how offensive kneeling is to some people. So people who kneel are not bad people, and people who don't kneel are not bad people. A lot of people seem to write people off as bad when probably it is just fitting someone into a box of people you feel free to spew hatred to. I'm not going to support racists or pedos, or whatever, but you have to be very sure before you label someone with such names. |  | |  |
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