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Kieran Dyer ‘hits out’ at press for insisting Martin should leave Southampto 20:55 - Oct 23 with 4631 viewsSitfcB

…but not McKenna with Ipswich.

Contradicts himself straight away when he was asked ‘should we be talking about McKenna’

“No”

He says Southampton didn’t have £100 million to spend…they spent £103m on transfers, gets mentions us spending £100mill coming across as a bit of a dig especially when he says about us not winning a game yet.

Strange.

He should be sticking up for us and championing ITFC.

Like Ashton said, there’s a gap between the Premier League and the Championship and then there’s another gap between us and Leicester/Southampton.

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Kieran Dyer ‘hits out’ at press for insisting Martin should leave Southampto on 21:11 - Oct 23 with 4461 viewsJ2BLUE

Like all Town fans he knows if Martin stays there, there will only be two relegation spots to fill.

Truly impaired.
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Kieran Dyer ‘hits out’ at press for insisting Martin should leave Southampto on 21:24 - Oct 23 with 4348 viewsgainsboroughblue

Not to mention that Southampton were an established Premier League club for all but one of the last dozen seasons and we were in League One just two seasons ago.
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Kieran Dyer ‘hits out’ at press for insisting Martin should leave Southampto on 21:43 - Oct 23 with 4202 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

He did stick up for us, and said what a great job KM did getting us promoted and that he's a top manager.

He was sticking up for RM,not slating KM.

Nothing to see.

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Kieran Dyer ‘hits out’ at press for insisting Martin should leave Southampto on 21:58 - Oct 23 with 4081 viewsPinewoodblue

What a strange post!

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Kieran Dyer ‘hits out’ at press for insisting Martin should leave Southampto on 23:33 - Oct 23 with 3708 viewsibbleobble

Stick to Daily Mail posts mate, easier for you to understand - less contradiction to get contradictory about. Ya get me bruv?
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Kieran Dyer ‘hits out’ at press for insisting Martin should leave Southampto on 02:32 - Oct 24 with 3472 viewsJimmyJazz

Kieran Dyer ‘hits out’ at press for insisting Martin should leave Southampto on 21:11 - Oct 23 by J2BLUE

Like all Town fans he knows if Martin stays there, there will only be two relegation spots to fill.


Two? I would say one

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Kieran Dyer ‘hits out’ at press for insisting Martin should leave Southampto on 08:49 - Oct 24 with 3030 viewsFrimleyBlue

He's spot on, it's not really a swipe at Km, quite the opposite

He is rightly saying though that the heat is wrong on Martin, lets not forget he's similar in the sense that he's a young manager, we may not like him as he comes across a twt, but he's still a young manager who faced the same problems as KM when it came to recruiting for his first season in the prem

Forgetting the bounce back of southampton, I appreciate that but what established prem players do southamton have that other clubs would want to take?

Ashton did speak of the level differences, I agree with them to a point, leicester imo are much further ahead, but southampton for me, just seem ahead financially rather than actually in player ability.

So whilst I don't think KM should be having media issues, neither should Martin, because unless both do, then there really shouldn't be any heat on either.

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Kieran Dyer ‘hits out’ at press for insisting Martin should leave Southampto on 08:54 - Oct 24 with 2988 viewstextbackup

He is incredibly bitter and twisted about not getting a shot at a role

Bit of a strange egg him
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Kieran Dyer ‘hits out’ at press for insisting Martin should leave Southampto on 09:01 - Oct 24 with 2920 viewsFrimleyBlue

Kieran Dyer ‘hits out’ at press for insisting Martin should leave Southampto on 08:54 - Oct 24 by textbackup

He is incredibly bitter and twisted about not getting a shot at a role

Bit of a strange egg him
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Im not a dyer fan, but not sure what he's said here that's wrong, or even Anti KM or the club tbh

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Kieran Dyer ‘hits out’ at press for insisting Martin should leave Southampto on 09:04 - Oct 24 with 2905 viewsmutters

I don't think that was his point. If you listen to the full interview he is complimentary about KMK, enjoyed the brief time he worked with him.

His point wasn't anti Ipswich, more around how some managers get a pass but others don't.

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Kieran Dyer ‘hits out’ at press for insisting Martin should leave Southampto on 09:05 - Oct 24 with 2906 viewsbsw72

Eh? Isn't his point about why Martin's job is being called into question and yet McKenna's is not when the teams are both in a similar position?
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Kieran Dyer ‘hits out’ at press for insisting Martin should leave Southampto on 09:09 - Oct 24 with 2883 viewshype313

Kieran Dyer ‘hits out’ at press for insisting Martin should leave Southampto on 09:05 - Oct 24 by bsw72

Eh? Isn't his point about why Martin's job is being called into question and yet McKenna's is not when the teams are both in a similar position?


Yep, the only discrepancy is him saying that saints didn't spend £100m, which they did.

But it's still a valid point comparing the two Managers and their respective positions.

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Kieran Dyer ‘hits out’ at press for insisting Martin should leave Southampto on 09:21 - Oct 24 with 2801 viewsbsw72

Kieran Dyer ‘hits out’ at press for insisting Martin should leave Southampto on 09:09 - Oct 24 by hype313

Yep, the only discrepancy is him saying that saints didn't spend £100m, which they did.

But it's still a valid point comparing the two Managers and their respective positions.


I wonder whether he confused total transfer spend vs net transfer spend. Either way, probably doesn't matter.
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Kieran Dyer ‘hits out’ at press for insisting Martin should leave Southampto on 09:54 - Oct 24 with 2659 viewsOldFart71

To us mere mortals 100 million is a heck of a lot of money especially when many are well below what is considered the average wage. But when gauged against top clubs spending more than half that sum on one player it brings it into perspective. Not in the sense of the real World, but in the sense of Premier, La Liga and Seria A. Looking at the situation regarding managers and their clubs many have struggled to adapt and stay in the Premier League. I suppose you could say Southampton have been there recently so they had more of an idea as to what was required. But even when you look at many of the lesser teams in the Prem they have really quick skilful players. Town are currently struggling in all departments. Southampton can score, but can't defend. I still see us surviving but as I say if we don't and a few players depart we still have a fantastic base of players to go again and be wiser next time as to the requirements.
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Kieran Dyer ‘hits out’ at press for insisting Martin should leave Southampto on 10:47 - Oct 24 with 2507 viewsbluebud

Kieran Dyer ‘hits out’ at press for insisting Martin should leave Southampto on 23:33 - Oct 23 by ibbleobble

Stick to Daily Mail posts mate, easier for you to understand - less contradiction to get contradictory about. Ya get me bruv?


"Ya get me bruv"

My my, what a wonderful post, you seem bright and incisive, can't wait to read more of your posts bro
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Kieran Dyer ‘hits out’ at press for insisting Martin should leave Southampto on 11:16 - Oct 24 with 2387 viewsSitfcB

Kieran Dyer ‘hits out’ at press for insisting Martin should leave Southampto on 09:05 - Oct 24 by bsw72

Eh? Isn't his point about why Martin's job is being called into question and yet McKenna's is not when the teams are both in a similar position?


Perhaps I listened to it in the wrong tone, just sounded like he was saying it with a bit of malice.

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Kieran Dyer ‘hits out’ at press for insisting Martin should leave Southampto on 12:30 - Oct 24 with 2151 viewsEuropablue

Kieran Dyer ‘hits out’ at press for insisting Martin should leave Southampto on 08:49 - Oct 24 by FrimleyBlue

He's spot on, it's not really a swipe at Km, quite the opposite

He is rightly saying though that the heat is wrong on Martin, lets not forget he's similar in the sense that he's a young manager, we may not like him as he comes across a twt, but he's still a young manager who faced the same problems as KM when it came to recruiting for his first season in the prem

Forgetting the bounce back of southampton, I appreciate that but what established prem players do southamton have that other clubs would want to take?

Ashton did speak of the level differences, I agree with them to a point, leicester imo are much further ahead, but southampton for me, just seem ahead financially rather than actually in player ability.

So whilst I don't think KM should be having media issues, neither should Martin, because unless both do, then there really shouldn't be any heat on either.


There is a big material difference in the situations. We have 4 points and they have 1.
KM is not calling out players in post-match interviews (which is a sign of having lost the dressing room). KM has achieved much more in getting Ipswich automatically promoted from League One to the Prem than Martin did by winning the playoffs with a club with parachute payments.
It is entirely reasonable for the media to speculate on Martin's job because it is altogether likely that they could hire another manager who could get better results. KM cannot be improved upon currently as we aren't a huge draw for the best European managers.
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Kieran Dyer ‘hits out’ at press for insisting Martin should leave Southampto on 12:37 - Oct 24 with 2098 viewscharlie1

Weren’t Saints, Leeds and Leicester three of the most expensive squads ever to play in the Championship?

Both us and Saints may have spent roughly the same amount of money in the summer, but the starting points were poles apart.
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Kieran Dyer ‘hits out’ at press for insisting Martin should leave Southampto on 12:50 - Oct 24 with 2040 viewsJimmy86

Kieran Dyer ‘hits out’ at press for insisting Martin should leave Southampto on 08:54 - Oct 24 by textbackup

He is incredibly bitter and twisted about not getting a shot at a role

Bit of a strange egg him
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Have to say, that was my first thought... He has a chip on his shoulder about the fact he wasn't given the interim role when Lambert left? Can't remember the exact timeline for it.. I know he applied for it and it was overlooked and he took that badly...
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Kieran Dyer ‘hits out’ at press for insisting Martin should leave Southampto on 12:53 - Oct 24 with 2014 viewsberkstractorboy

Kieran Dyer ‘hits out’ at press for insisting Martin should leave Southampto on 12:37 - Oct 24 by charlie1

Weren’t Saints, Leeds and Leicester three of the most expensive squads ever to play in the Championship?

Both us and Saints may have spent roughly the same amount of money in the summer, but the starting points were poles apart.


Which is the point MA was making in the interview he did is that Leicester and Saints are streets ahead in terms of finances at the start of this season compared to us.

You could argue that Southampton should have adapted better to PL that us as they have more PL experience in the squad.
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Kieran Dyer ‘hits out’ at press for insisting Martin should leave Southampto on 13:22 - Oct 24 with 1887 viewsEuropablue

Kieran Dyer ‘hits out’ at press for insisting Martin should leave Southampto on 12:50 - Oct 24 by Jimmy86

Have to say, that was my first thought... He has a chip on his shoulder about the fact he wasn't given the interim role when Lambert left? Can't remember the exact timeline for it.. I know he applied for it and it was overlooked and he took that badly...


As much as I love Kieran Dyer as a club legend, being the manager isn't about waiting for your turn. Also, his emotionality contrasts completely with the calm of KM. This management usually do right by players. For example, they were straight with Kayden Jackson and even interviewed him on Town TV about his time at Town and wished him all the best in future.
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Kieran Dyer ‘hits out’ at press for insisting Martin should leave Southampto on 15:10 - Oct 24 with 1641 viewsJimmy86

Kieran Dyer ‘hits out’ at press for insisting Martin should leave Southampto on 13:22 - Oct 24 by Europablue

As much as I love Kieran Dyer as a club legend, being the manager isn't about waiting for your turn. Also, his emotionality contrasts completely with the calm of KM. This management usually do right by players. For example, they were straight with Kayden Jackson and even interviewed him on Town TV about his time at Town and wished him all the best in future.


Agreed, there was a reason the club overlooked Kieron Dyer for the caretaker manager role... He hadn't had the same managerial experience that Mcgreal had got at the time.. hence they didn't appoint him..

For whatever reason, Kieron didn't take that well...
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Kieran Dyer ‘hits out’ at press for insisting Martin should leave Southampto on 15:34 - Oct 24 with 1594 viewsEuropablue

Kieran Dyer ‘hits out’ at press for insisting Martin should leave Southampto on 15:10 - Oct 24 by Jimmy86

Agreed, there was a reason the club overlooked Kieron Dyer for the caretaker manager role... He hadn't had the same managerial experience that Mcgreal had got at the time.. hence they didn't appoint him..

For whatever reason, Kieron didn't take that well...


I think a lot of it had to do with Dyer having gone through such a tough time with his health, but also feeling like he stuck by the club and deserved some loyalty in return. Unfortunately, you have to be ruthless with decisions, but we should always aim to be human when dealing with the consequences of tough decisions. I think Dyer is still welcome around the club.
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