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Penalty or no? (Obviously it's not as wasn't given) 22:36 - Nov 2 with 6292 viewsWicklowBlue

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Penalty or no? (Obviously it's not as wasn't given) on 22:40 - Nov 2 with 5428 viewsTRUE_BLUE123

Won't see many clearer penalties than that all year.

Utterly shameful that it hasn't been given by the ref or Lino and then no by VAR. Staggering.

If that is United, Arsenal, City, Liverpool. It is given every single time. Joke.

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Penalty or no? (Obviously it's not as wasn't given) on 22:56 - Nov 2 with 5300 viewsWicklowBlue

Penalty or no? (Obviously it's not as wasn't given) on 22:40 - Nov 2 by TRUE_BLUE123

Won't see many clearer penalties than that all year.

Utterly shameful that it hasn't been given by the ref or Lino and then no by VAR. Staggering.

If that is United, Arsenal, City, Liverpool. It is given every single time. Joke.


At the very least why isn't there a VAR call to look at the incident?
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Penalty or no? (Obviously it's not as wasn't given) on 23:10 - Nov 2 with 5181 viewsTRUE_BLUE123

Penalty or no? (Obviously it's not as wasn't given) on 22:56 - Nov 2 by WicklowBlue

At the very least why isn't there a VAR call to look at the incident?


There was apparently. McKenna said the 4th official told him it was looked at.

Which makes it even more inexcusable. I done understand what Stuart Attwell has seen not to give it. Farce.

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Penalty or no? (Obviously it's not as wasn't given) on 23:16 - Nov 2 with 5108 viewsquirkie

Don't know what you are moaning about, that was a perfectly legitimate challenge... in egg chasing.

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Penalty or no? (Obviously it's not as wasn't given) on 23:16 - Nov 2 with 5108 viewsmccarthy_is_god

For me it’s not a clear and obvious error.

Don’t leave it to the referee whether you get 3 or 1 points.

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Penalty or no? (Obviously it's not as wasn't given) on 23:23 - Nov 2 with 4991 viewsredrickstuhaart

Penalty or no? (Obviously it's not as wasn't given) on 23:16 - Nov 2 by mccarthy_is_god

For me it’s not a clear and obvious error.

Don’t leave it to the referee whether you get 3 or 1 points.


Compare it with other var decisions given against us.

And then forget all that and explain to everyone else in what way it was not a clear and obvious error.

Taken out, no attempt to play the ball. Not shoulde rto shoulder. Not light contact. What possible reasoning do you have?
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Penalty or no? (Obviously it's not as wasn't given) on 23:42 - Nov 2 with 4803 viewsCrayonKing

Penalty or no? (Obviously it's not as wasn't given) on 23:16 - Nov 2 by quirkie

Don't know what you are moaning about, that was a perfectly legitimate challenge... in egg chasing.


In rugby that’s a high tackle and a sending off nowadays!
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Penalty or no? (Obviously it's not as wasn't given) on 00:08 - Nov 3 with 4674 viewsGiant_Midget

That would be given in a game of ice hockey!
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Penalty or no? (Obviously it's not as wasn't given) on 00:19 - Nov 3 with 4577 viewstractorshark

100% a penalty.

For VAR to not intervene on that but overturn the Everton one is just ridiculous.

I didn’t think the Everton one was a penalty, I thought Clarke slipped but it was very debatable and certainly not a clear and obvious error.

And yet VAR overrules that and doesn’t see fit to award a penalty today that we all know would be given 9 times out of 10 and certainly every time if it involves a team in the top six.

Absolutely shocking and embarrassing. We will get an apology from the PGMOL and no one will then give a toss. But every point is so hard to obtain in the Prem and decisions like today can be the difference between survival and relegation.
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Penalty or no? (Obviously it's not as wasn't given) on 06:15 - Nov 3 with 4234 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Penalty or no? (Obviously it's not as wasn't given) on 23:16 - Nov 2 by mccarthy_is_god

For me it’s not a clear and obvious error.

Don’t leave it to the referee whether you get 3 or 1 points.


What a moronic comment. That (wrong) decision totally changed the game. For starters we have a pen at 1-0 up, very likely to make it 2-0... and also the Philips second booking doesn't happen. So we're very probably 2-0 with 11 men instead of 1-0 with 10.

How do you get from that that we left it to the ref and therefore got 1 point?!

You're either trying to be edgy because you think it's cool or you're an idiot.

Trust the process. Trust Phil.

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Penalty or no? (Obviously it's not as wasn't given) on 06:48 - Nov 3 with 4182 viewsITFC_Forever

Doesn’t attempt to play the ball.

Doesn’t play the ball.

Shoves Conor over.

Anywhere else on the pitch it’s a foul, and it’s clear as day a foul, therefore a penalty.

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Penalty or no? (Obviously it's not as wasn't given) on 08:51 - Nov 3 with 3756 viewstractorshark

It smacks of VAR looking at it and thinking if we intervene here, we’ve got to overturn two decisions.

It’s an absolutely diabolical decision and we’ll get an apology but that means nothing after the event.
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Penalty or no? (Obviously it's not as wasn't given) on 09:31 - Nov 3 with 3577 viewsChurchman

Penalty or no? (Obviously it's not as wasn't given) on 23:16 - Nov 2 by mccarthy_is_god

For me it’s not a clear and obvious error.

Don’t leave it to the referee whether you get 3 or 1 points.


Really? Do you actually mean that? It looked a penalty from the other end of the ground. He wiped him out. Carelessness, whatever it was reckless and quite frankly if Phillips was sent off for what he did, that player should have got a straight red.

Seeing the replays is even worse. The player couldn’t have done much more other than hit Chaplin with a club. It would have been a penalty in the 1970s ffs - an age where to get a foul you needed a signed death certificate (Hugh McIlvanney on Chelsea Leeds 1970).

At 1-0 and a referee does that, it’s not leaving it to the referee, it’s the ref is actually acting as the influencer. Can you imagine a top club getting a decision like that? I’m amazed the little man in black didn’t ask Leicester’s captain for permission to leave the field at the end off the game.
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Penalty or no? (Obviously it's not as wasn't given) on 09:34 - Nov 3 with 3561 viewsStewart27

Penalty or no? (Obviously it's not as wasn't given) on 23:16 - Nov 2 by mccarthy_is_god

For me it’s not a clear and obvious error.

Don’t leave it to the referee whether you get 3 or 1 points.


It’s both clear and obvious.

Don’t try and make this a subjective matter just to be edgy.
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Penalty or no? (Obviously it's not as wasn't given) on 09:39 - Nov 3 with 3519 viewscbower

Penalty or no? (Obviously it's not as wasn't given) on 08:51 - Nov 3 by tractorshark

It smacks of VAR looking at it and thinking if we intervene here, we’ve got to overturn two decisions.

It’s an absolutely diabolical decision and we’ll get an apology but that means nothing after the event.


And probably send Fatawu off too. I'm sure he was already on a yellow.

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Penalty or no? (Obviously it's not as wasn't given) on 09:39 - Nov 3 with 3510 viewsredrickstuhaart

Penalty or no? (Obviously it's not as wasn't given) on 09:39 - Nov 3 by cbower

And probably send Fatawu off too. I'm sure he was already on a yellow.


He should have been. He got away with 3 or 4 as well as repeated dissent.
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Penalty or no? (Obviously it's not as wasn't given) on 10:03 - Nov 3 with 3407 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Watching the highlights at full speed and from the refs angle I think you can see why it isn't given. Not so clear that Chaplin is cutting inside and more like he's looking for the contact. Mind you their defender was more than happy to oblige. It is the lack of consistency on clear and obvious errors that is frustrating.

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Penalty or no? (Obviously it's not as wasn't given) on 12:45 - Nov 3 with 3162 viewsNthQldITFC

I think a forearm smash into the ribcage, with an added shove, that flattens a player who has already flicked the ball past you, is probably a penalty. How anyone can think it wasn't is several miles beyond me.

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Penalty or no? (Obviously it's not as wasn't given) on 14:21 - Nov 3 with 2966 viewsFrimleyBlue

Think if chappers doesn't leave the ground it becomes a pen. Unfortunately it looks like he's looking for contact as he pushes with his right foot, leaves the ground slightly with both feet so he's only going down from here

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Penalty or no? (Obviously it's not as wasn't given) on 14:35 - Nov 3 with 2933 viewsNthQldITFC

Penalty or no? (Obviously it's not as wasn't given) on 14:21 - Nov 3 by FrimleyBlue

Think if chappers doesn't leave the ground it becomes a pen. Unfortunately it looks like he's looking for contact as he pushes with his right foot, leaves the ground slightly with both feet so he's only going down from here


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Penalty or no? (Obviously it's not as wasn't given) on 14:48 - Nov 3 with 2879 viewsChurchman

Penalty or no? (Obviously it's not as wasn't given) on 14:21 - Nov 3 by FrimleyBlue

Think if chappers doesn't leave the ground it becomes a pen. Unfortunately it looks like he's looking for contact as he pushes with his right foot, leaves the ground slightly with both feet so he's only going down from here


Sorry FB you are not going to make Edge Lord on that. He moves the ball away from the player and the player charges /jumps right into him at pace. It’s a stonewall penalty. Chaplin could have had rocket boosters and there’s no avoiding that. Not unless there is a new law that says you are allowed to run right through players even if they’ve moved the ball away.

I hadn’t realised it the was the number 7. He was charging around first half and committed four or five blatant fouls, far worse than Phillips’ in the first half before the latter was booked for his first challenge. The ref effectively green lighted him to carry on being aggressive fouling throughout.

Why?
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Penalty or no? (Obviously it's not as wasn't given) on 14:54 - Nov 3 with 2839 viewsDropCliffsNotBombs

Penalty or no? (Obviously it's not as wasn't given) on 14:21 - Nov 3 by FrimleyBlue

Think if chappers doesn't leave the ground it becomes a pen. Unfortunately it looks like he's looking for contact as he pushes with his right foot, leaves the ground slightly with both feet so he's only going down from here


Your commitment to being wrong in every single thing every is commendable. There's no way that you actually don't think it's a penalty now though.
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Penalty or no? (Obviously it's not as wasn't given) on 14:54 - Nov 3 with 2824 viewsFrimleyBlue

Penalty or no? (Obviously it's not as wasn't given) on 14:48 - Nov 3 by Churchman

Sorry FB you are not going to make Edge Lord on that. He moves the ball away from the player and the player charges /jumps right into him at pace. It’s a stonewall penalty. Chaplin could have had rocket boosters and there’s no avoiding that. Not unless there is a new law that says you are allowed to run right through players even if they’ve moved the ball away.

I hadn’t realised it the was the number 7. He was charging around first half and committed four or five blatant fouls, far worse than Phillips’ in the first half before the latter was booked for his first challenge. The ref effectively green lighted him to carry on being aggressive fouling throughout.

Why?


Not trying to be Edge Lord. Just trying to find justification for why Var didn't see at as a clear and obvious error.

There's got to be a reason for it and that's they only reason I can see for them not referring it back to the ref to look at it again.

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Penalty or no? (Obviously it's not as wasn't given) on 14:57 - Nov 3 with 2822 viewsChurchman

Penalty or no? (Obviously it's not as wasn't given) on 14:54 - Nov 3 by FrimleyBlue

Not trying to be Edge Lord. Just trying to find justification for why Var didn't see at as a clear and obvious error.

There's got to be a reason for it and that's they only reason I can see for them not referring it back to the ref to look at it again.


Well if you find the reason, please let us know. It’s a complete bl00dy mystery to me 😃
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Penalty or no? (Obviously it's not as wasn't given) on 15:02 - Nov 3 with 2785 viewsFrimleyBlue

Penalty or no? (Obviously it's not as wasn't given) on 14:57 - Nov 3 by Churchman

Well if you find the reason, please let us know. It’s a complete bl00dy mystery to me 😃


Its got to be that. The only thing I can see from it that potentially stops it being a pen.

The ref can't see it so I get why he didn't give it.

Question is... can var get involved in a clear and obvious error IF the ref hasn't given something because he can't see it? Is that no longer a clear and obvious error as he didn't make a decision to begin with?

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