| So Trump is in then… 07:47 - Nov 6 with 15393 views | SitfcB |
What does that mean for America, the world?
What’s he going to do?
Is it worse that the last time he was in?
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| So Trump is in then… on 07:49 - Nov 6 with 6607 views | blueasfook |
He's going to overturn the penalty decision and Phillips sending off |  |
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| So Trump is in then… on 07:49 - Nov 6 with 6593 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
Listening to his rambling nonsense. The guy makes my skin crawl.
Surprised at the extent of his victory- clearly a lot of ‘shy Trump voters’ in the polls.
The most worrying aspect for me is that the Republicans look to have won the House too. |  | | |
| So Trump is in then… on 07:51 - Nov 6 with 6565 views | SitfcB |
| So Trump is in then… on 07:49 - Nov 6 by blueasfook |
He's going to overturn the penalty decision and Phillips sending off |
Then he has an extra vote from me. | |
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| So Trump is in then… on 07:52 - Nov 6 with 6527 views | GlasgowBlue |
| So Trump is in then… on 07:49 - Nov 6 by blueasfook |
He's going to overturn the penalty decision and Phillips sending off |
Make Ipswich Great Again |  |
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| So Trump is in then… on 08:01 - Nov 6 with 6424 views | WeWereZombies |
Ultimately it may mean that the United States splits into two nations but that is decades down the road. Might be an opportune moment for Canada to invade later this week though... |  |
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| So Trump is in then… on 08:03 - Nov 6 with 6399 views | DinDjarin |
Peace. |  | | |
| So Trump is in then… on 08:06 - Nov 6 with 6355 views | OsmansCleanSheet |
| So Trump is in then… on 08:03 - Nov 6 by DinDjarin |
Peace. |
At what cost? |  | | |
| So Trump is in then… on 08:06 - Nov 6 with 6352 views | StokieBlue |
| So Trump is in then… on 08:03 - Nov 6 by DinDjarin |
Peace. |
Do you ever put in substance in your posts? It's all just soundbites very much like Trump himself.
How is it peace?
By allowing Russia to annex large areas of the Ukraine and Israel to displace more Palestinians and start building on the land?
Show us your working.
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| So Trump is in then… on 08:07 - Nov 6 with 6342 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
Trade wars. Even higher prices here and there and business as usual for oil etc... |  |
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| So Trump is in then… on 08:07 - Nov 6 with 6352 views | StokieBlue |
It's far worse.
Last time there were a number of historical checks and balances in place within the Republican party to at least try and reign him in. This time he's surrounded by people as crazy as he is with very little to stop them, especially if they win the Senate and House which is looking possible.
He's just announced on stage that RJK Jr is going to be looking after healthcare which is just horrible.
This speech is just a load of rambling nonsense, a child could give a more accurate and eloquent speech.
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| So Trump is in then… on 08:09 - Nov 6 with 6313 views | Zapers |
| So Trump is in then… on 08:03 - Nov 6 by DinDjarin |
Peace. |
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| So Trump is in then… on 08:11 - Nov 6 with 6267 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| So Trump is in then… on 08:03 - Nov 6 by DinDjarin |
Peace. |
In the valley? | |
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| So Trump is in then… on 08:14 - Nov 6 with 6239 views | WeWereZombies |
| So Trump is in then… on 08:03 - Nov 6 by DinDjarin |
Peace. |
Which is now solely in the hands of European, African and Commonwealth nations to deliver. But we will probably make a much better job of it than the dog's breakfast that United States foreign policy has been for the last few decades. | |
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| So Trump is in then… on 08:15 - Nov 6 with 6237 views | Swansea_Blue |
| So Trump is in then… on 07:49 - Nov 6 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
Listening to his rambling nonsense. The guy makes my skin crawl.
Surprised at the extent of his victory- clearly a lot of ‘shy Trump voters’ in the polls.
The most worrying aspect for me is that the Republicans look to have won the House too. |
That’s the issue as far as I’m concerned. He’s a creep and proven criminal, bullsh*ts off the charts, plus there’s a lot of mud around possible abuse. Amazing that anyone thinks he’s a suitable candidate to lead the most powerful nation on Earth. They’re nuts.
It probably won’t make a huge amount of difference to us though. Maybe it’ll cost our exporters a bit more in tariffs. It might make relationships around international affairs a bit more awkward. I’m not sure it’ll have much of an impact on our daily lives unless we want it to by getting worked up what he says. On that point he’ll be constantly in the news again, so that becomes almost unwatchable. |  |
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| So Trump is in then… on 08:18 - Nov 6 with 6183 views | DinDjarin |
| So Trump is in then… on 08:06 - Nov 6 by StokieBlue |
Do you ever put in substance in your posts? It's all just soundbites very much like Trump himself.
How is it peace?
By allowing Russia to annex large areas of the Ukraine and Israel to displace more Palestinians and start building on the land?
Show us your working.
SB |
How is it peace?
It's not yet obviously is it. He's not even in power yet. | | | |
| So Trump is in then… on 08:20 - Nov 6 with 6129 views | iamatractorboy |
| So Trump is in then… on 08:03 - Nov 6 by DinDjarin |
Peace. |
By giving Putin exactly what he wants, presumably. | | | |
| So Trump is in then… on 08:24 - Nov 6 with 6082 views | Cotty |
| So Trump is in then… on 08:15 - Nov 6 by Swansea_Blue |
That’s the issue as far as I’m concerned. He’s a creep and proven criminal, bullsh*ts off the charts, plus there’s a lot of mud around possible abuse. Amazing that anyone thinks he’s a suitable candidate to lead the most powerful nation on Earth. They’re nuts.
It probably won’t make a huge amount of difference to us though. Maybe it’ll cost our exporters a bit more in tariffs. It might make relationships around international affairs a bit more awkward. I’m not sure it’ll have much of an impact on our daily lives unless we want it to by getting worked up what he says. On that point he’ll be constantly in the news again, so that becomes almost unwatchable. |
I said to my wife just this morning, that's me not watching news for the next 4 years then! I wonder if there's a way to put him on ignore on the guardian app... [Post edited 6 Nov 2024 8:26]
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| So Trump is in then… on 08:28 - Nov 6 with 6004 views | StokieBlue |
| So Trump is in then… on 08:18 - Nov 6 by DinDjarin |
How is it peace?
It's not yet obviously is it. He's not even in power yet. |
A deliberately obtuse response but to be expected I guess.
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| So Trump is in then… on 08:31 - Nov 6 with 5967 views | Europablue |
| So Trump is in then… on 07:52 - Nov 6 by GlasgowBlue |
Make Ipswich Great Again |
KM and MA already did that! | | | |
| So Trump is in then… on 08:31 - Nov 6 with 5974 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| So Trump is in then… on 08:15 - Nov 6 by Swansea_Blue |
That’s the issue as far as I’m concerned. He’s a creep and proven criminal, bullsh*ts off the charts, plus there’s a lot of mud around possible abuse. Amazing that anyone thinks he’s a suitable candidate to lead the most powerful nation on Earth. They’re nuts.
It probably won’t make a huge amount of difference to us though. Maybe it’ll cost our exporters a bit more in tariffs. It might make relationships around international affairs a bit more awkward. I’m not sure it’ll have much of an impact on our daily lives unless we want it to by getting worked up what he says. On that point he’ll be constantly in the news again, so that becomes almost unwatchable. |
The protectionism for me is less concerning than his foreign policy. It’s a continuation of a global trend. Biden for instance implemented tougher tariffs on Chinese imports than any during Trump first tenure. The EU are proposing tougher tariffs on Chinese goods right now, and Western firms are increasingly withdrawing their investments in mainland China, in some cases leaving altogether.
We were entering an era of reverse globalisation even before Trump as COVID and Ukraine highlighted how fragile supply chains are and increasing tensions with China. In fairness, the Germans tried to placate Russia through trade and economic interdependence but it was clearly naive to view authoritarians like Putin and Xi through a western lens - ideology for them trumps (pardon the pun) economic growth.
As others have said, the concern now is how he reacts to the conflicts in Ukraine and the Middle East, if they win the House and Senate then there really aren’t a lot of checks and balances… | | | |
| So Trump is in then… on 08:32 - Nov 6 with 5957 views | BloomBlue |
| So Trump is in then… on 08:03 - Nov 6 by DinDjarin |
Peace. |
You're probably correct.
He will stop funding Ukraine, which will allow Putin to walk in and take control - technically that will be classed as peace when the war stops. But not the type of peace Ukrainians wanted
In the Gaza/Israel situation, he will tell Netanyahu, get it done and finished quickly, irrelevant of how or cost, even if that means the full integration of Gaza into Israel and no separate land for the Palestinians - technically that will be classed as peace when the war stops. But not the type of peace the people of Gaza wanted.
Also if Iran attacks Israel again, Trump will hit Iran with the mother of all missiles/weapons - technically that will be classed as peace when Iran cannot hit Israel again. But not the type of peace Iranians wanted.
He will counter the impact on oil prices after hitting Iran by bringing Russia in from the cold and buying huge amounts of oil from them. Making Russia even more powerful in Europe, and being able to threaten Europe, and effectively control Europe - technically that will be classed as peace in Europe. But not the type of peace the people of Europe wanted. |  | | |
| So Trump is in then… on 08:36 - Nov 6 with 5917 views | Europablue |
| So Trump is in then… on 08:20 - Nov 6 by iamatractorboy |
By giving Putin exactly what he wants, presumably. |
I think the most important thing for Trump in a deal is to be seen as winning. I very much doubt he will just let Putin have Europe.
I'm expecting either Trump to threaten to nuke Moscow if Russia does not return all Ukrainian land, or Russia will get Crimea and maybe the Russian-speaking areas in the East under the provision that Ukraine gets to join Nato and the EU if it chooses. | | | |
| So Trump is in then… on 08:37 - Nov 6 with 5896 views | Europablue |
| So Trump is in then… on 08:24 - Nov 6 by Cotty |
I said to my wife just this morning, that's me not watching news for the next 4 years then! I wonder if there's a way to put him on ignore on the guardian app... [Post edited 6 Nov 2024 8:26]
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You are probably going to be much happier for the next 4 years. You will probably be happier if you just delete the app entirely.
I'm still checking the news, but it never makes you feel happy or good about the world. | | | |
| So Trump is in then… on 08:43 - Nov 6 with 5824 views | WeWereZombies |
| So Trump is in then… on 08:15 - Nov 6 by Swansea_Blue |
That’s the issue as far as I’m concerned. He’s a creep and proven criminal, bullsh*ts off the charts, plus there’s a lot of mud around possible abuse. Amazing that anyone thinks he’s a suitable candidate to lead the most powerful nation on Earth. They’re nuts.
It probably won’t make a huge amount of difference to us though. Maybe it’ll cost our exporters a bit more in tariffs. It might make relationships around international affairs a bit more awkward. I’m not sure it’ll have much of an impact on our daily lives unless we want it to by getting worked up what he says. On that point he’ll be constantly in the news again, so that becomes almost unwatchable. |
Regarding your first paragraph, yesterday the United States may have been the most powerful nation on Earth, this morning it is far less certain. | |
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| So Trump is in then… on 08:46 - Nov 6 with 5784 views | StokieBlue |
| So Trump is in then… on 08:36 - Nov 6 by Europablue |
I think the most important thing for Trump in a deal is to be seen as winning. I very much doubt he will just let Putin have Europe.
I'm expecting either Trump to threaten to nuke Moscow if Russia does not return all Ukrainian land, or Russia will get Crimea and maybe the Russian-speaking areas in the East under the provision that Ukraine gets to join Nato and the EU if it chooses. |
"I'm expecting either Trump to threaten to nuke Moscow if Russia does not return all Ukrainian land"
This is never going to happen and even if it did Putin wouldn't believe him given it's the destruction of the US if they nuked Russia. It's a completely empty threat which Putin would ignore.
"Russia will get Crimea and maybe the Russian-speaking areas in the East under the provision that Ukraine gets to join Nato and the EU if it chooses."
So a large number of people who don't all want to be Russian become Russian? That's not peace, that's capitulation. It's shouldn't be up to Russia if another independent country gets to join international organisations.
Neither of those are stated policies, you're just making stuff up now you have to justify all the things you've said over the last few days.
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