| So Trump is in then… 07:47 - Nov 6 with 15395 views | SitfcB |
What does that mean for America, the world?
What’s he going to do?
Is it worse that the last time he was in?
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| So Trump is in then… on 14:37 - Nov 6 with 1520 views | jayceee |
| So Trump is in then… on 14:15 - Nov 6 by ronnyd |
Isn't "price gouging" just a new way of saying profiteering? |
I think there are subtle differences - for example gouging is usually related to price increases during emergencies . And - already (mostly) illegal.
So it just seems a strange and almost insulting way to drum up support from people feeling the effects of inflation. |  | | |
| So Trump is in then… on 14:38 - Nov 6 with 1511 views | giant_stow |
| So Trump is in then… on 14:32 - Nov 6 by Europablue |
I'm not sure what the downvotes are for. Maybe because you went against their narrative. |
As the critics of the post said pretty clearly: its the source. |  |
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| So Trump is in then… on 14:44 - Nov 6 with 1466 views | Cafe_Newman |
| So Trump is in then… on 13:09 - Nov 6 by Kievthegreat |
How easy would it have been to bring in someone else?
Because of Biden's stubbornness to stay on, he negated all the standard party machinery and processes for selecting candidates. They ended up having to rubber-stamp her at the last minute or it would get very very messy. |
I totally get what you're saying and that Kamala didn't really get a fair crack this time. In staying on and "negating the standard party machinery and processes for selecting candidates" you might question his commitment to the democracy or at least his commitment to his party, right? |  | | |
| So Trump is in then… on 15:26 - Nov 6 with 1387 views | Kievthegreat |
| So Trump is in then… on 14:44 - Nov 6 by Cafe_Newman |
I totally get what you're saying and that Kamala didn't really get a fair crack this time. In staying on and "negating the standard party machinery and processes for selecting candidates" you might question his commitment to the democracy or at least his commitment to his party, right? |
Thought more that he was just being a selfish, stubborn moron TBH. He could have gone out with grace, but instead he melted down publicly and had to be pushed out of the way with rather a lot of pollical force. |  | | |
| It's HORRIBLE on 15:28 - Nov 6 with 1370 views | Trequartista |
| It's HORRIBLE on 11:31 - Nov 6 by ScottCandage |
Trump will abandon Ukraine. He has stated it. He's Putin's butt boy. Is the UK ready to step into the breach? Will any ITFC hard core supporters step up? No, I didn't think so.
Trumps has said he will NOT DEFEND any NATO country against Russian aggression.
So in 2027, look forward to the Russian army targeting southern England from the French coast.
Oh that can't happen?
Yeah, I thought Trump couldn't happen. |
Russia has not managed to capture Kharkiv, a city 19 miles away from Russia, in 3 years. The idea that they will be just be wandering round Europe invading countries three years from now is ludicrous. |  |
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| It's HORRIBLE on 15:38 - Nov 6 with 1313 views | DanTheMan |
| It's HORRIBLE on 15:28 - Nov 6 by Trequartista |
Russia has not managed to capture Kharkiv, a city 19 miles away from Russia, in 3 years. The idea that they will be just be wandering round Europe invading countries three years from now is ludicrous. |
Even if we just talk about the direct donations, they've spent $100billion on Ukraine.
If Trump pulls funding, I don't think Europe will be able to pick up the slack given how pretty much every nation has some form of a cost of living crisis.
I don't think Putin will be going around invading countries, but I can see him taking a huge chunk out of Ukraine if the worst is to come to pass. |  |
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| It's HORRIBLE on 15:38 - Nov 6 with 1313 views | KrakenBlue |
| It's HORRIBLE on 15:28 - Nov 6 by Trequartista |
Russia has not managed to capture Kharkiv, a city 19 miles away from Russia, in 3 years. The idea that they will be just be wandering round Europe invading countries three years from now is ludicrous. |
Thanks to American hardware. Once that's run out, what exactly is stopping Russian advances? |  | | |
| So Trump is in then… on 15:42 - Nov 6 with 1276 views | Swansea_Blue |
| So Trump is in then… on 12:25 - Nov 6 by GlasgowBlue |
Sofia Patel used her position as Labour Head of Operations and labourforkamala email address.
Not that there's anything wrong with it. The Tories help the Republicans and vice versa. It's been going in as long as I can remember. |
She did and then that was revoked and apparently they paid their own expenses and it was purely voluntary. There could have been some nods and winks in the background of course. As you say though, it's normal and they've been cleared of any wrongdoing. It's all terminally dull and mundane typical twitter nonsense. |  |
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| It's HORRIBLE on 15:43 - Nov 6 with 1273 views | Blueschev |
| It's HORRIBLE on 15:28 - Nov 6 by Trequartista |
Russia has not managed to capture Kharkiv, a city 19 miles away from Russia, in 3 years. The idea that they will be just be wandering round Europe invading countries three years from now is ludicrous. |
I don't believe Trump has ever said he won't defend any NATO country in the event of a Russian attack, and even if he has it would not be solely his decision to make. NATO plays a significant role in maintaining US global dominance, Trump won't just walk away from it no matter what he says.
I also think Putin's capabilities are being hugely overstated, not to mention his ambitions. Would he prefer an isolationist Trump in the White House? Of Course. Will he attempt to use Trumps ignorance and often blinkered thinking to his advantage? I'd expect so. That does not mean that Trump is Putin's puppet, it just isn't plausible. |  | | |
| It's HORRIBLE on 15:44 - Nov 6 with 1267 views | blueasfook |
| It's HORRIBLE on 15:38 - Nov 6 by DanTheMan |
Even if we just talk about the direct donations, they've spent $100billion on Ukraine.
If Trump pulls funding, I don't think Europe will be able to pick up the slack given how pretty much every nation has some form of a cost of living crisis.
I don't think Putin will be going around invading countries, but I can see him taking a huge chunk out of Ukraine if the worst is to come to pass. |
it's pretty much guaranteed Trump will pull funding and gifts of arms to Ukraine. It's a bottomless pit. Europe should follow suit and concentrate on shoring up our eastern NATO allies in case he wants to get saucy there. NATO's remit is to defend against a Russian threat to its members, not to help out anyone else they might choose to pick on. |  |
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| It's HORRIBLE on 15:55 - Nov 6 with 1222 views | Blueschev |
| It's HORRIBLE on 15:38 - Nov 6 by DanTheMan |
Even if we just talk about the direct donations, they've spent $100billion on Ukraine.
If Trump pulls funding, I don't think Europe will be able to pick up the slack given how pretty much every nation has some form of a cost of living crisis.
I don't think Putin will be going around invading countries, but I can see him taking a huge chunk out of Ukraine if the worst is to come to pass. |
My guess is what Trump will try to do is force Zelensky to agree to give up Crimea and most other Russian speaking territories in exchange for a Russian withdrawal and continued Ukrainian independence. If he does then Ukraine won't have much choice, and he will bet that the average American won't care and he can sell it as a win. | | | |
| It's HORRIBLE on 15:55 - Nov 6 with 1220 views | redrickstuhaart |
| It's HORRIBLE on 15:44 - Nov 6 by blueasfook |
it's pretty much guaranteed Trump will pull funding and gifts of arms to Ukraine. It's a bottomless pit. Europe should follow suit and concentrate on shoring up our eastern NATO allies in case he wants to get saucy there. NATO's remit is to defend against a Russian threat to its members, not to help out anyone else they might choose to pick on. |
Yeah sod em. Maga. | | | |
| It's HORRIBLE on 15:59 - Nov 6 with 1207 views | positivity |
| It's HORRIBLE on 15:43 - Nov 6 by Blueschev |
I don't believe Trump has ever said he won't defend any NATO country in the event of a Russian attack, and even if he has it would not be solely his decision to make. NATO plays a significant role in maintaining US global dominance, Trump won't just walk away from it no matter what he says.
I also think Putin's capabilities are being hugely overstated, not to mention his ambitions. Would he prefer an isolationist Trump in the White House? Of Course. Will he attempt to use Trumps ignorance and often blinkered thinking to his advantage? I'd expect so. That does not mean that Trump is Putin's puppet, it just isn't plausible. |
not quite, the quote was as follows:
'Trump said “one of the presidents of a big country” at one point asked him whether the US would still defend the country if they were invaded by Russia even if they “don’t pay.”
“No, I would not protect you,” Trump recalled telling that president. “In fact, I would encourage them to do whatever the hell they want"'
his ego may be a positive here, he may not want to be the president who lost the usa's status as the world's leader (as they see it) | |
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| It's HORRIBLE on 16:03 - Nov 6 with 1187 views | giant_stow |
There's an enlightened self interest angle too in that by helping Ukraine, we help ourselves defend against Russian aggression too. Not lovely, but real. | |
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| So Trump is in then… on 16:07 - Nov 6 with 1151 views | jayceee |
Here's a thought:
What would you say - if the orange clown actually negotiated peace in Russia/Ukraine? Or - and it's a stretch - got Israel to enter a ceasefire? I mean - unlikely sure - but those are such important problems effecting so many people negatively, that we should celebrate the outcome even if we hate who got us there? | | | |
| It's HORRIBLE on 16:07 - Nov 6 with 1142 views | Blueschev |
| It's HORRIBLE on 15:59 - Nov 6 by positivity |
not quite, the quote was as follows:
'Trump said “one of the presidents of a big country” at one point asked him whether the US would still defend the country if they were invaded by Russia even if they “don’t pay.”
“No, I would not protect you,” Trump recalled telling that president. “In fact, I would encourage them to do whatever the hell they want"'
his ego may be a positive here, he may not want to be the president who lost the usa's status as the world's leader (as they see it) |
I'd say that's largely Trump bluster. He may be President but I don't think that the US military would allow him or anyone else to jeopardise their military hegemony. | | | |
| It's HORRIBLE on 16:07 - Nov 6 with 1142 views | Kievthegreat |
| It's HORRIBLE on 15:38 - Nov 6 by DanTheMan |
Even if we just talk about the direct donations, they've spent $100billion on Ukraine.
If Trump pulls funding, I don't think Europe will be able to pick up the slack given how pretty much every nation has some form of a cost of living crisis.
I don't think Putin will be going around invading countries, but I can see him taking a huge chunk out of Ukraine if the worst is to come to pass. |
In accounting terms, it may be $100bn, but it exaggerates the amount. If the US donates a used 30 year old piece of kit, it records it at the current cost of a replacement. A replacement that it was either buying anyway or had no intention of replacing.
Obviously for actual cash donation or donation of newly made materiel like shells it's a fair representation of value. But the monetary values are misleading. | | | |
| So Trump is in then… on 16:09 - Nov 6 with 1129 views | positivity |
| So Trump is in then… on 16:07 - Nov 6 by jayceee |
Here's a thought:
What would you say - if the orange clown actually negotiated peace in Russia/Ukraine? Or - and it's a stretch - got Israel to enter a ceasefire? I mean - unlikely sure - but those are such important problems effecting so many people negatively, that we should celebrate the outcome even if we hate who got us there? |
if he got a 2 state solution in israel/palestine and got russia to withdraw from ukraine, he'd win the nobel peace prize and totally deserve it | |
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| So Trump is in then… on 16:14 - Nov 6 with 1096 views | J2BLUE |
| So Trump is in then… on 08:36 - Nov 6 by Europablue |
I think the most important thing for Trump in a deal is to be seen as winning. I very much doubt he will just let Putin have Europe.
I'm expecting either Trump to threaten to nuke Moscow if Russia does not return all Ukrainian land, or Russia will get Crimea and maybe the Russian-speaking areas in the East under the provision that Ukraine gets to join Nato and the EU if it chooses. |
I'm expecting either Trump to threaten to nuke Moscow if Russia does not return all Ukrainian land
Quite possibly the dumbest thing ever said on here. |  |
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| So Trump is in then… on 16:18 - Nov 6 with 1072 views | MattinLondon |
| So Trump is in then… on 16:09 - Nov 6 by positivity |
if he got a 2 state solution in israel/palestine and got russia to withdraw from ukraine, he'd win the nobel peace prize and totally deserve it |
Putin won’t withdraw from Ukraine as he’s a bully and won’t want to lose face.
Tump may well be able to understand him better as he’s a bully himself who also has a massive ego. |  | | |
| So Trump is in then… on 16:22 - Nov 6 with 1057 views | stonojnr |
| So Trump is in then… on 16:07 - Nov 6 by jayceee |
Here's a thought:
What would you say - if the orange clown actually negotiated peace in Russia/Ukraine? Or - and it's a stretch - got Israel to enter a ceasefire? I mean - unlikely sure - but those are such important problems effecting so many people negatively, that we should celebrate the outcome even if we hate who got us there? |
They'd claim it was Bidens efforts that did it and Trump is just claiming the credit | | | |
| So Trump is in then… on 16:38 - Nov 6 with 991 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| So Trump is in then… on 13:15 - Nov 6 by Zapers |
Starmers the boss, of course ultimate responsibility lies at his feet.
FFS! |
Is your boss responsible for everything you do and everywhere you go in your life?
Does he sanction your time posting nonsense on here, for example? |  |
| Trust the process. Trust Phil. |
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| So Trump is in then… on 16:40 - Nov 6 with 977 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| So Trump is in then… on 13:49 - Nov 6 by reusersfreekicks |
Yeah that looks unbiased
FFS read previous posts here
But don't makehere and Tw@tter your only news source
Read decent media
Person he seems to be!!
Where have you been last few years
Can't help thinking this is another of your innocent sh1t stirring posts |
You have to remember Frimmers is a visionary who thinks differently to us mere mortals. | |
| Trust the process. Trust Phil. |
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| So Trump is in then… on 16:55 - Nov 6 with 921 views | FrimleyBlue |
| So Trump is in then… on 14:32 - Nov 6 by Europablue |
I'm not sure what the downvotes are for. Maybe because you went against their narrative. |
Tbh I just haven't really followed it all. I know there's a lot of anger about trump as an individual and saw on sky earlier today someone mentioning all the good he did in first time so had a quick gander. Of course it will be a biased site the one I looked at but that's a fair amount if good in that so curious on a political side what's so scary about him being back in.
The downvotes are just the usual ones. It's funny with one asking if I'm trolling when on the general tab the only time I've posted on here is to ask questions oh and to post about my weight loss :)
They tell me to educate myself. But here we are. I'm seeking information so share it..
I'm not american so haven't had any interest in the politics of it all but as its been the big talk of the day I was intrigued to learn more. [Post edited 6 Nov 2024 16:58]
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| So Trump is in then… on 16:58 - Nov 6 with 903 views | reusersfreekicks |
| So Trump is in then… on 16:18 - Nov 6 by MattinLondon |
Putin won’t withdraw from Ukraine as he’s a bully and won’t want to lose face.
Tump may well be able to understand him better as he’s a bully himself who also has a massive ego. |
You may have missed a touch of sarcasm |  | | |
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