| So Trump is in then… 07:47 - Nov 6 with 15406 views | SitfcB |
What does that mean for America, the world?
What’s he going to do?
Is it worse that the last time he was in?
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| So Trump is in then… on 17:47 - Nov 6 with 1511 views | DropCliffsNotBombs |
| So Trump is in then… on 16:55 - Nov 6 by FrimleyBlue |
Tbh I just haven't really followed it all. I know there's a lot of anger about trump as an individual and saw on sky earlier today someone mentioning all the good he did in first time so had a quick gander. Of course it will be a biased site the one I looked at but that's a fair amount if good in that so curious on a political side what's so scary about him being back in.
The downvotes are just the usual ones. It's funny with one asking if I'm trolling when on the general tab the only time I've posted on here is to ask questions oh and to post about my weight loss :)
They tell me to educate myself. But here we are. I'm seeking information so share it..
I'm not american so haven't had any interest in the politics of it all but as its been the big talk of the day I was intrigued to learn more. [Post edited 6 Nov 2024 16:58]
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You have children and have lost about 100lbs recently, so I'm going to assume that you're at least eight.
Primary school children are taught to look at sources and consider if what they are reading is worth a damn.
You cannot have reached adulthood and think that the garbage link you posted has any basis in fact. You just can't. |  | | |
| So Trump is in then… on 17:58 - Nov 6 with 1456 views | FrimleyBlue |
| So Trump is in then… on 17:47 - Nov 6 by DropCliffsNotBombs |
You have children and have lost about 100lbs recently, so I'm going to assume that you're at least eight.
Primary school children are taught to look at sources and consider if what they are reading is worth a damn.
You cannot have reached adulthood and think that the garbage link you posted has any basis in fact. You just can't. |
No actual comment or source to help answer the question I raised? That would be appreciated tbh. |  |
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| So Trump is in then… on 18:11 - Nov 6 with 1434 views | Leaky |
Wasn't difficult to work out as sad as seems I could not see the US voting for a female Predident |  | | |
| So Trump is in then… on 18:56 - Nov 6 with 1354 views | Dubtractor |
I'm seeing a lot of stuff on socials, from admittedly very lefty sources, suggesting that there are millions of missing votes. With the implication that this is why Harris hasn't yet conceded.
Would be somewhat amusing if the dispute of the result comes from the Democrats, after all the build up of Trump being likely to kick off. |  |
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| Modern mainstream politicians are basically.... on 18:59 - Nov 6 with 1338 views | Bloots |
| So Trump is in then… on 18:56 - Nov 6 by Dubtractor |
I'm seeing a lot of stuff on socials, from admittedly very lefty sources, suggesting that there are millions of missing votes. With the implication that this is why Harris hasn't yet conceded.
Would be somewhat amusing if the dispute of the result comes from the Democrats, after all the build up of Trump being likely to kick off. |
....two sides of the same coin.
The world would be a much more convivial and generally better place if people realised that.
Oh well, on we go. [Post edited 6 Nov 2024 18:59]
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| "He's been a really positive influence on my life, I think he's a great man" - TWTD User (May 2025) |
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| Modern mainstream politicians are basically.... on 19:02 - Nov 6 with 1331 views | positivity |
| Modern mainstream politicians are basically.... on 18:59 - Nov 6 by Bloots |
....two sides of the same coin.
The world would be a much more convivial and generally better place if people realised that.
Oh well, on we go. [Post edited 6 Nov 2024 18:59]
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she's already conceded in a phonecall to trump.
almost 4 years quicker than trump, so the coin's pretty deformed on one side! |  |
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| It's HORRIBLE on 19:37 - Nov 6 with 1235 views | Europablue |
| It's HORRIBLE on 15:55 - Nov 6 by Blueschev |
My guess is what Trump will try to do is force Zelensky to agree to give up Crimea and most other Russian speaking territories in exchange for a Russian withdrawal and continued Ukrainian independence. If he does then Ukraine won't have much choice, and he will bet that the average American won't care and he can sell it as a win. |
That and Ukraine is allowed to join Nato and would be free to become an EU member. Maybe Trump wouldn't go for the last bit.
The whole situation is quite complicated in that we don't want to send the message that aggression will be rewarded, but it makes most sense if you think of the history and the demographics in the East for Ukraine to lose some land.
Putin needs to be able to sell the win, so he can't get nothing.
Ukraine has to think about not what they had, but how they will probably lose almost the whole country if the US support ended.
It isn't in anyone's interest to perpetuate a bloody war with all that suffering.
This solution is much more preferable to any other option especially spending billions to destroy Ukraine. Are we also going to pay to rebuild the country? | | | |
| It's HORRIBLE on 19:42 - Nov 6 with 1218 views | Europablue |
| It's HORRIBLE on 15:59 - Nov 6 by positivity |
not quite, the quote was as follows:
'Trump said “one of the presidents of a big country” at one point asked him whether the US would still defend the country if they were invaded by Russia even if they “don’t pay.”
“No, I would not protect you,” Trump recalled telling that president. “In fact, I would encourage them to do whatever the hell they want"'
his ego may be a positive here, he may not want to be the president who lost the usa's status as the world's leader (as they see it) |
If the agreement is that countries have to pay 2% of GDP towards NATO and they don't do it, surely they have broken the agreement and the US is not obliged to protect them? | | | |
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| So Trump is in then… on 19:44 - Nov 6 with 1203 views | Europablue |
| So Trump is in then… on 15:42 - Nov 6 by Swansea_Blue |
She did and then that was revoked and apparently they paid their own expenses and it was purely voluntary. There could have been some nods and winks in the background of course. As you say though, it's normal and they've been cleared of any wrongdoing. It's all terminally dull and mundane typical twitter nonsense. |
The question is, did they do more harm than good to the campaign? | | | |
| It's HORRIBLE on 19:44 - Nov 6 with 1205 views | J2BLUE |
| It's HORRIBLE on 19:42 - Nov 6 by Europablue |
If the agreement is that countries have to pay 2% of GDP towards NATO and they don't do it, surely they have broken the agreement and the US is not obliged to protect them? |
Strongly suspect that entire thing was made up. Why would any president ask that? |  |
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| So Trump is in then… on 19:46 - Nov 6 with 1186 views | Europablue |
| So Trump is in then… on 16:07 - Nov 6 by jayceee |
Here's a thought:
What would you say - if the orange clown actually negotiated peace in Russia/Ukraine? Or - and it's a stretch - got Israel to enter a ceasefire? I mean - unlikely sure - but those are such important problems effecting so many people negatively, that we should celebrate the outcome even if we hate who got us there? |
You would think so, but it is very difficult for people affected with TDS to give credit to him for anything positive he does.
They would come up with an angle of how it was accidental, or credit his staff members. | | | |
| So Trump is in then… on 19:48 - Nov 6 with 1190 views | DinDjarin |
| So Trump is in then… on 18:56 - Nov 6 by Dubtractor |
I'm seeing a lot of stuff on socials, from admittedly very lefty sources, suggesting that there are millions of missing votes. With the implication that this is why Harris hasn't yet conceded.
Would be somewhat amusing if the dispute of the result comes from the Democrats, after all the build up of Trump being likely to kick off. |
2020 all over again :-)
She is down 14 million votes from 2020. Where did those people go to as Trump is also down 2 million. |  | | |
| So Trump is in then… on 19:49 - Nov 6 with 1172 views | Europablue |
| So Trump is in then… on 16:09 - Nov 6 by positivity |
if he got a 2 state solution in israel/palestine and got russia to withdraw from ukraine, he'd win the nobel peace prize and totally deserve it |
Obama got the Nobel peace prize for getting elected.
Trump was snubbed even though he brokered deals for multiple Muslim states to recognize Israel in what was a historic deal. | | | |
| So Trump is in then… on 19:52 - Nov 6 with 1154 views | Europablue |
| So Trump is in then… on 16:14 - Nov 6 by J2BLUE |
I'm expecting either Trump to threaten to nuke Moscow if Russia does not return all Ukrainian land
Quite possibly the dumbest thing ever said on here. |
Make your mind up, is Trump a deranged despot or is he a stable presence on the international stage? | | | |
| So Trump is in then… on 19:57 - Nov 6 with 1138 views | Europablue |
| So Trump is in then… on 16:55 - Nov 6 by FrimleyBlue |
Tbh I just haven't really followed it all. I know there's a lot of anger about trump as an individual and saw on sky earlier today someone mentioning all the good he did in first time so had a quick gander. Of course it will be a biased site the one I looked at but that's a fair amount if good in that so curious on a political side what's so scary about him being back in.
The downvotes are just the usual ones. It's funny with one asking if I'm trolling when on the general tab the only time I've posted on here is to ask questions oh and to post about my weight loss :)
They tell me to educate myself. But here we are. I'm seeking information so share it..
I'm not american so haven't had any interest in the politics of it all but as its been the big talk of the day I was intrigued to learn more. [Post edited 6 Nov 2024 16:58]
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The most important thing for them is to feel good about themselves.
They tell you to educate yourself so that you agree with them, but they are trying to convince you. They tell you to provide evidence, but dismiss it entirely.
The real world and proper human relationships are where I gain value. | | | |
| Modern mainstream politicians are basically.... on 20:05 - Nov 6 with 1113 views | quirkie |
| Modern mainstream politicians are basically.... on 19:02 - Nov 6 by positivity |
she's already conceded in a phonecall to trump.
almost 4 years quicker than trump, so the coin's pretty deformed on one side! |
She didn't have much choice, she was obliterated. Got less votes in every location than Biden in 2020.
She was an utter disaster for the Democrats.
Now we got an Orange blimp in charge of the Western World for the next 4 years, what joy. |  |
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| It's HORRIBLE on 20:09 - Nov 6 with 1089 views | Blueschev |
| It's HORRIBLE on 19:37 - Nov 6 by Europablue |
That and Ukraine is allowed to join Nato and would be free to become an EU member. Maybe Trump wouldn't go for the last bit.
The whole situation is quite complicated in that we don't want to send the message that aggression will be rewarded, but it makes most sense if you think of the history and the demographics in the East for Ukraine to lose some land.
Putin needs to be able to sell the win, so he can't get nothing.
Ukraine has to think about not what they had, but how they will probably lose almost the whole country if the US support ended.
It isn't in anyone's interest to perpetuate a bloody war with all that suffering.
This solution is much more preferable to any other option especially spending billions to destroy Ukraine. Are we also going to pay to rebuild the country? |
There is no way Putin would accept Ukrainian membership of either NATO or the EU. He wants a buffer zone between Russia and the West. Exchanging territory for NATO expansion simply shifts the border. Putin is flexing on the gamble that the EU / NATO won’t risk a wider war in order to defend Ukraine, and with Trump he’s likely to win that bet. |  | | |
| So Trump is in then… on 22:05 - Nov 6 with 980 views | DropCliffsNotBombs |
| So Trump is in then… on 19:57 - Nov 6 by Europablue |
The most important thing for them is to feel good about themselves.
They tell you to educate yourself so that you agree with them, but they are trying to convince you. They tell you to provide evidence, but dismiss it entirely.
The real world and proper human relationships are where I gain value. |
For all your whimpering and bleating in the chat that people' forced you into defending RFK Jr', you don't half seem to be beyond eager to get on your knees in front of Trump. | | | |
| So Trump is in then… on 22:06 - Nov 6 with 968 views | DropCliffsNotBombs |
| So Trump is in then… on 17:58 - Nov 6 by FrimleyBlue |
No actual comment or source to help answer the question I raised? That would be appreciated tbh. |
No, do one. If you can't find anything that suggest why people might have concerns about the racist rapist, that is on you. | | | |
| So Trump is in then… on 22:19 - Nov 6 with 919 views | FrimleyBlue |
| So Trump is in then… on 22:06 - Nov 6 by DropCliffsNotBombs |
No, do one. If you can't find anything that suggest why people might have concerns about the racist rapist, that is on you. |
Yeah I did mention about him as a person in my original reply. My question was about what his term did for their country last time which people aren't keen about this term.
If its all about him personally then totally get it. | |
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| It's HORRIBLE on 22:32 - Nov 6 with 903 views | StokieBlue |
| It's HORRIBLE on 19:37 - Nov 6 by Europablue |
That and Ukraine is allowed to join Nato and would be free to become an EU member. Maybe Trump wouldn't go for the last bit.
The whole situation is quite complicated in that we don't want to send the message that aggression will be rewarded, but it makes most sense if you think of the history and the demographics in the East for Ukraine to lose some land.
Putin needs to be able to sell the win, so he can't get nothing.
Ukraine has to think about not what they had, but how they will probably lose almost the whole country if the US support ended.
It isn't in anyone's interest to perpetuate a bloody war with all that suffering.
This solution is much more preferable to any other option especially spending billions to destroy Ukraine. Are we also going to pay to rebuild the country? |
You're totally wrong on this, you're an apologist pushing appeasement.
Ukraine should be "allowed" (your term) to do what it wants, it's a sovereign nation and should do what it decides internally.
Disgraceful posting which looks to completely absolve Russia of blame.
SB. |  | | |
| It's HORRIBLE on 22:35 - Nov 6 with 887 views | redrickstuhaart |
| It's HORRIBLE on 22:32 - Nov 6 by StokieBlue |
You're totally wrong on this, you're an apologist pushing appeasement.
Ukraine should be "allowed" (your term) to do what it wants, it's a sovereign nation and should do what it decides internally.
Disgraceful posting which looks to completely absolve Russia of blame.
SB. |
Agreed. Absolutely disgusting stuff.
" it makes most sense if you think of the history and the demographics in the East for Ukraine to lose some land. "
Almost exactly Putin's justification for mass murder and invasion. | | | |
| It's HORRIBLE on 22:42 - Nov 6 with 854 views | DropCliffsNotBombs |
| It's HORRIBLE on 22:35 - Nov 6 by redrickstuhaart |
Agreed. Absolutely disgusting stuff.
" it makes most sense if you think of the history and the demographics in the East for Ukraine to lose some land. "
Almost exactly Putin's justification for mass murder and invasion. |
I know we joke about Russian bots on here, but last night was very weird - people were chatting about the election, other stuff and Europa would just spew lengthy, rambling pro-trump monologues that had no relation to the conversations taking place. J2 made the point that it sounded like a chat gtp bot just churning out crap and he was right.
If it is a person, he's genuinely a bit terrifying. | | | |
| It's HORRIBLE on 22:53 - Nov 6 with 800 views | Blueschev |
| It's HORRIBLE on 22:42 - Nov 6 by DropCliffsNotBombs |
I know we joke about Russian bots on here, but last night was very weird - people were chatting about the election, other stuff and Europa would just spew lengthy, rambling pro-trump monologues that had no relation to the conversations taking place. J2 made the point that it sounded like a chat gtp bot just churning out crap and he was right.
If it is a person, he's genuinely a bit terrifying. |
I struggle to read all of the “I don’t even support Trump but I’ll peddle everything he says” posts that you’re sighting, because as you say they go on completely contradictory off topic nonsense. I never considered it was some kind of AI. They do make discussion difficult, hard to follow as much as anything. | | | |
| So Trump is in then… on 22:57 - Nov 6 with 782 views | reusersfreekicks |
| So Trump is in then… on 19:57 - Nov 6 by Europablue |
The most important thing for them is to feel good about themselves.
They tell you to educate yourself so that you agree with them, but they are trying to convince you. They tell you to provide evidence, but dismiss it entirely.
The real world and proper human relationships are where I gain value. |
Oh get real. Anyone with 1/10 of a brain could tell that link was ridiculous. Frimley is not that stupid and posted the link to stir the sh1t.
All the rest of your hyperbole is victim rubbish |  | | |
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