| Not to be unkind to Ali... 18:28 - Nov 24 with 11792 views | Zx1988 |
But if we have Hirst or a PL-level backup on the pitch for the last 20mins, we win that. |  |
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| Not to be unkind to Ali... on 19:12 - Nov 24 with 1496 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Not to be unkind to Ali... on 19:08 - Nov 24 by buoyant |
As per.... totally exaggerated view.
Delap was spent, AAH offered something different. It's what we've got and it's worth a punt, not a wasted sub at all. |
Genuine question as I'm happy to look at it differently in future. What is the something different? He looked unfit. Couldn't press. Couldn't pass. Couldn't hold the ball and didn't achieve anything when he came on. I'm not being mean just genuinely asking what am I not seeing that you are with him? |  |
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| Not to be unkind to Ali... on 09:12 - Nov 25 with 1363 views | DJR |
He clearly wouldn't be here had we brought in another striker, but I think that is now the third Premier League game he has come on in, and in my view he has done pretty well in all three.
In some ways, he is a little bit like Delap in the sense that he is a bit of a disruptor, and today I thought he held the ball up well with very limited service. [Post edited 25 Nov 2024 9:13]
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| Not to be unkind to Ali... on 09:18 - Nov 25 with 1337 views | tivo |
We just needed someone to press and be a shlthouse for the last 10 minutes, I would have put on Harry Clarke.
Or even brought on Mass and pushed Taylor up. Either would have been more threatening than Ali | | | |
| Not to be unkind to Ali... on 09:23 - Nov 25 with 1293 views | Mookamoo |
| Not to be unkind to Ali... on 18:29 - Nov 24 by blueasfook |
Well Hirst is injured so Ali is our only option. |
I'd quite like to see Harry Clarke up front for the last 10 if Hurst is out for while.
Used to be a striker.
The new Naylor given the chance. |  | | |
| Not to be unkind to Ali... on 09:23 - Nov 25 with 1298 views | textbackup |
He’s absolutely fcking sht
Of all the good we’ve done it’s a stain that he is 3rd choice. |  |
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| Not to be unkind to Ali... on 09:24 - Nov 25 with 1282 views | textbackup |
| Not to be unkind to Ali... on 18:32 - Nov 24 by ITFC_84 |
Al-Hamadi just not up to it is he. Looked shattered after 5 mins |
How the fck can that be down voted 😂😂😂 | |
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| Not to be unkind to Ali... on 09:27 - Nov 25 with 1290 views | blueasfook |
| Not to be unkind to Ali... on 09:23 - Nov 25 by textbackup |
He’s absolutely fcking sht
Of all the good we’ve done it’s a stain that he is 3rd choice. |
That's very harsh. Lad hasnt had much game time in the championship, let alone the premiership. He's at the club as a "future prospect". He needs to go out on loan and get some game time to help him develop. Hopefully then he'll come back and do some good stuff to shut the idiots up. |  |
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| Not to be unkind to Ali... on 09:28 - Nov 25 with 1271 views | Keno |
| Not to be unkind to Ali... on 09:27 - Nov 25 by blueasfook |
That's very harsh. Lad hasnt had much game time in the championship, let alone the premiership. He's at the club as a "future prospect". He needs to go out on loan and get some game time to help him develop. Hopefully then he'll come back and do some good stuff to shut the idiots up. |
also he just coming back from a fairly long term injury so is bound to be a 'rusty' |  |
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| Not to be unkind to Ali... on 09:30 - Nov 25 with 1255 views | _clive_baker_ |
| Not to be unkind to Ali... on 09:18 - Nov 25 by tivo |
We just needed someone to press and be a shlthouse for the last 10 minutes, I would have put on Harry Clarke.
Or even brought on Mass and pushed Taylor up. Either would have been more threatening than Ali |
I think it's a stretch to say Harry Clarke would be a better option that AAH, a recognised forward. Clarke hasn't proven himself capable at this level in his own position, let alone a different one.
Ali's clearly a big step down on Hirst and Delap, I don't think there's any doubt about that in terms of their ability to play that role but given the players we have available to us he's surely the best option? The only alternative I can think of is Broadhead but physically I just can't see him offering us anything up there.
Thought Ali was going to be the hero when Clarke cut that one back, couldn't see who got the shot away between him or Chaplin but I was waiting to see the net bulge. |  | | |
| Not to be unkind to Ali... on 09:30 - Nov 25 with 1256 views | blueasfook |
| Not to be unkind to Ali... on 09:28 - Nov 25 by Keno |
also he just coming back from a fairly long term injury so is bound to be a 'rusty' |
it's unbelievable the expectations some fans put on a young lad who is still developing. | |
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| Not to be unkind to Ali... on 09:33 - Nov 25 with 1232 views | Dubtractor |
He needs to get out on loan in January, to get more match time and sharpness at championship level. Being completely frank about it, he looked miles off it yesterday, and unfit too. His anticipation, his movement, his use of the ball were all lacking.
That said, he's our sub option till Hirst is fit, so we need to back him when he comes on. |  |
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| Not to be unkind to Ali... on 09:34 - Nov 25 with 1215 views | textbackup |
| Not to be unkind to Ali... on 18:46 - Nov 24 by J2BLUE |
He's the new Ladapo in that he's a good player but he was signed to do a job at a level below where he now finds himself.
And like Ladapo, i'm sure he will chip in with some big moments when called upon. |
He can barely manage a press, or a simple control.
Hes so far off ladapo | |
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| Not to be unkind to Ali... on 09:35 - Nov 25 with 1194 views | Churchman |
| Not to be unkind to Ali... on 09:12 - Nov 25 by DJR |
He clearly wouldn't be here had we brought in another striker, but I think that is now the third Premier League game he has come on in, and in my view he has done pretty well in all three.
In some ways, he is a little bit like Delap in the sense that he is a bit of a disruptor, and today I thought he held the ball up well with very limited service. [Post edited 25 Nov 2024 9:13]
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Agree with that. I thought AAH did ok. He got in their faces, piled in where he could. As you point out, we didn’t have control of the game at that stage.
So what do I see in AAH? At 22 he’s been propelled into PL football. One helluva jump. On the credit side, he’s feisty, combative, decent level of control. At Wimbledon he was a one in two striker - ok, different level but he knows where the goal is. For me he has a bit about him.
On the downside, he’s been carrying injury. He’s not the biggest and the main concern for me is lack of pace. Is he good enough for the PL? Of course not - at the moment. No idea whether he will be, but I do think he needs to be playing on loan week in week out at Championship level for now.
We definitely need Hirst back and another forward in January. I’d not be averse to a Kieffer Moore style signing if there’s one out there. |  | | |
| Not to be unkind to Ali... on 09:39 - Nov 25 with 1155 views | _clive_baker_ |
| Not to be unkind to Ali... on 09:33 - Nov 25 by Dubtractor |
He needs to get out on loan in January, to get more match time and sharpness at championship level. Being completely frank about it, he looked miles off it yesterday, and unfit too. His anticipation, his movement, his use of the ball were all lacking.
That said, he's our sub option till Hirst is fit, so we need to back him when he comes on. |
I think he was heading to Derby on loan in the summer on the condition we signed a forward, which of course didn't happen. I reckon it will in January, we'll bring someone in and he'll head out. Hopefully by that time we've got Hirst back and Delap has stayed fit.
It's a challenge now though, we play 7 games in a 30 day period from the weekend so I think AAH is going to have to play his part in that. | | | |
| Not to be unkind to Ali... on 09:39 - Nov 25 with 1159 views | DanTheMan |
| Not to be unkind to Ali... on 09:27 - Nov 25 by blueasfook |
That's very harsh. Lad hasnt had much game time in the championship, let alone the premiership. He's at the club as a "future prospect". He needs to go out on loan and get some game time to help him develop. Hopefully then he'll come back and do some good stuff to shut the idiots up. |
Agreed. He was playing in League Two this time last season, so it's not surprising that he looks a bit out of place. |  |
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| Not to be unkind to Ali... on 09:39 - Nov 25 with 1157 views | textbackup |
| Not to be unkind to Ali... on 09:27 - Nov 25 by blueasfook |
That's very harsh. Lad hasnt had much game time in the championship, let alone the premiership. He's at the club as a "future prospect". He needs to go out on loan and get some game time to help him develop. Hopefully then he'll come back and do some good stuff to shut the idiots up. |
Did you just ignore the ‘stain that he’s 3rd choice’?!
No idea who and why just accepted that. | |
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| Not to be unkind to Ali... on 09:40 - Nov 25 with 1149 views | bournemouthblue |
Ali didn't look fully fit to me, is he carrying a knock? |  |
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| Not to be unkind to Ali... on 09:42 - Nov 25 with 1131 views | Jrm_72 |
| Not to be unkind to Ali... on 19:12 - Nov 24 by FrimleyBlue |
Genuine question as I'm happy to look at it differently in future. What is the something different? He looked unfit. Couldn't press. Couldn't pass. Couldn't hold the ball and didn't achieve anything when he came on. I'm not being mean just genuinely asking what am I not seeing that you are with him? |
I thought the same about fitness, looked really laboured within a couple of minutes. I'm pretty sure the club has at least intimated his groin issue wasn't completely fixed by surgery and is still managing it. Might be he is having to play when ideally he would be rehabbing.
I do like the guy, inspiring backstory and always tries within his limitations (not sure same can be said with Ladapo). Crazy to think a year ago he was playing for Wimbledon in League Two, and there he is seeing out a credible draw versus one of the all-time biggest clubs in history. Agree best thing for him would be a loan opportunity at somewhere in the pyramid between us and Wimbledon. | | | |
| Not to be unkind to Ali... on 09:43 - Nov 25 with 1132 views | textbackup |
| Not to be unkind to Ali... on 09:40 - Nov 25 by bournemouthblue |
Ali didn't look fully fit to me, is he carrying a knock? |
Putting him on is a total waste of time
A knackered Delap is far more productive than a hopeless unfit AAH | |
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| Not to be unkind to Ali... on 09:43 - Nov 25 with 1131 views | portmanking |
I think he's injured. He's got to be, hasn't he? AAH hasn't moved well ever since he signed for us IMHO. I think he's playing through the pain barrier out of desperation to be a part of the Premier League etc.
I refuse to believe he can be that knackered after 5 minutes if he was fully fit. He broke out into one sprint and I think that he realised just how much pain he was in.
*If* that is the case, I'd rather the fans knew so we could cut him some slack. Equally, he may just be utter bobbins and we'd have been better off with Ladapo than AAH, as others have said. | | | |
| Not to be unkind to Ali... on 09:45 - Nov 25 with 1119 views | textbackup |
| Not to be unkind to Ali... on 09:39 - Nov 25 by DanTheMan |
Agreed. He was playing in League Two this time last season, so it's not surprising that he looks a bit out of place. |
Then questions need to be asked of those that haven’t replaced him with someone with an ounce of quality | |
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| Not to be unkind to Ali... on 09:46 - Nov 25 with 1113 views | bournemouthblue |
| Not to be unkind to Ali... on 09:43 - Nov 25 by textbackup |
Putting him on is a total waste of time
A knackered Delap is far more productive than a hopeless unfit AAH |
We don't want to run Delap into the ground though in fairness, he has a lot of football to play | |
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| Not to be unkind to Ali... on 09:52 - Nov 25 with 1086 views | textbackup |
| Not to be unkind to Ali... on 09:46 - Nov 25 by bournemouthblue |
We don't want to run Delap into the ground though in fairness, he has a lot of football to play |
I hear you.
But if that’s the case just tell him to ‘play the final 10 like AAH would’
Barely run, mis control it, do nothing. Be a mini warm down for him | |
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| Not to be unkind to Ali... on 09:53 - Nov 25 with 1081 views | CobboldCrusty |
Felt sorry for Ali - didn't look fit at all.
Would've been better off with Buabo if he is fit but I think he might not be? |  | | |
| Not to be unkind to Ali... on 09:56 - Nov 25 with 1050 views | textbackup |
| Not to be unkind to Ali... on 09:53 - Nov 25 by CobboldCrusty |
Felt sorry for Ali - didn't look fit at all.
Would've been better off with Buabo if he is fit but I think he might not be? |
Spent 60mins warming up. Probably fcked himself doing that | |
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