| motd 23:05 - Dec 14 with 4655 views | Trequartista |
Definitely a deflection on the Wolves goal. Shows the ball flick upwards above Muric's hands. Also, when one of our defenders question him, he points at Clarke to signal it was a deflection. |  |
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| motd on 23:09 - Dec 14 with 3774 views | Zx1988 |
Also interesting to see the post-match footage very deliberately focus on Cunha's antics as well.
Hopefully the FA will step in. |  |
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| motd on 23:11 - Dec 14 with 3736 views | Vaughan8 |
I have to admit, in real time I thought "how's he let that in".
But after the replays, it definitely gets a slight deflection which seems to take it past Muric.
So i'll excuse that from being an "error" though its still not good being beaten at your near post. | | | |
| motd on 23:14 - Dec 14 with 3681 views | Zx1988 |
| motd on 23:11 - Dec 14 by Vaughan8 |
I have to admit, in real time I thought "how's he let that in".
But after the replays, it definitely gets a slight deflection which seems to take it past Muric.
So i'll excuse that from being an "error" though its still not good being beaten at your near post. |
Would he have been beaten, though, but for the deflection?
It feels as if some people are trying to attribute blame wherever they can. | |
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| motd on 23:15 - Dec 14 with 3660 views | Trequartista |
| motd on 23:09 - Dec 14 by Zx1988 |
Also interesting to see the post-match footage very deliberately focus on Cunha's antics as well.
Hopefully the FA will step in. |
Yes he won't avoid a ban for that now. Saw McKenna pulling Delap away so he'll know what Delap did or didn't do. | |
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| motd on 23:16 - Dec 14 with 3599 views | Zx1988 |
| motd on 23:15 - Dec 14 by Trequartista |
Yes he won't avoid a ban for that now. Saw McKenna pulling Delap away so he'll know what Delap did or didn't do. |
Still no clearer on the Delap situation.
The graphics covered the Aït Nouri second yellow, and didn't mention Delap getting carded, but Walcott seemed to think he had been during the analysis. | |
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| motd on 23:16 - Dec 14 with 3592 views | Hugoagogo_Reborn |
I wanted to see it, but I couldn't. May have to rewind and watch. However, moot point, as we won, so.... COYB! [Post edited 14 Dec 2024 23:22]
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| motd on 23:20 - Dec 14 with 3510 views | redrickstuhaart |
| motd on 23:16 - Dec 14 by Zx1988 |
Still no clearer on the Delap situation.
The graphics covered the Aït Nouri second yellow, and didn't mention Delap getting carded, but Walcott seemed to think he had been during the analysis. |
FA Site records no yellow for Delap. | | | |
| motd on 23:21 - Dec 14 with 3479 views | Churchman |
| motd on 23:09 - Dec 14 by Zx1988 |
Also interesting to see the post-match footage very deliberately focus on Cunha's antics as well.
Hopefully the FA will step in. |
Just watched it. Pretty outrageous. Delap? No idea what he did wrong beyond verbals - that may well justify the yellow. The Wolves bloke? Nuts. Like the way he grabbed our bloke’s glasses. Having just spent £500 on bins I wouldn’t be happy if I was him.
Just watching Leicester. Despite messiah Red Rum Van Nistelrooy, they’re being ripped a new one. [Post edited 14 Dec 2024 23:30]
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| motd on 23:22 - Dec 14 with 3474 views | Hugoagogo_Reborn |
| motd on 23:09 - Dec 14 by Zx1988 |
Also interesting to see the post-match footage very deliberately focus on Cunha's antics as well.
Hopefully the FA will step in. |
Glad they focussed on that.
It's bad enough that he elbowed the ITFC staff member in the head, but I actually think the removal of glasses was just as bad. A disrespectful, bullying act, that. Hope the FA throw the book at him.
Also, Ait-Nouri had to be physically manhandled multiple times and practically shoved down the tunnel.
Not a good look for Wolves.
Not happy about Delap getting booked, but didn't see any footage to show why he did. | | | |
| motd on 23:23 - Dec 14 with 3413 views | Simonds92 |
| motd on 23:14 - Dec 14 by Zx1988 |
Would he have been beaten, though, but for the deflection?
It feels as if some people are trying to attribute blame wherever they can. |
I wasn't one calling for him to be replaced, he's the best keeper we have. He does so much well, particularly claiming crosses but I do think it was a really poor goal to concede, especially as his position was so far over that side, he should never get beaten there. | | | |
| motd on 23:24 - Dec 14 with 3401 views | Zx1988 |
| motd on 23:22 - Dec 14 by Hugoagogo_Reborn |
Glad they focussed on that.
It's bad enough that he elbowed the ITFC staff member in the head, but I actually think the removal of glasses was just as bad. A disrespectful, bullying act, that. Hope the FA throw the book at him.
Also, Ait-Nouri had to be physically manhandled multiple times and practically shoved down the tunnel.
Not a good look for Wolves.
Not happy about Delap getting booked, but didn't see any footage to show why he did. |
MOTD seems to think it was for his role in the initial set-to with Aït Nouri, which led to the scenes that nobody* wants to see.
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| motd on 23:25 - Dec 14 with 3367 views | grow_our_own |
Cunha deserves to be retrospectively sent off. Clearly elbowed a member of our backstaff in the back of the head, with force:
Violent conduct. | | | |
| motd on 23:26 - Dec 14 with 3322 views | Facefacts |
Newcastle's Bruno is a cheat. (Notes for next week). |  | | |
| motd on 23:27 - Dec 14 with 3292 views | Hugoagogo_Reborn |
| motd on 23:24 - Dec 14 by Zx1988 |
MOTD seems to think it was for his role in the initial set-to with Aït Nouri, which led to the scenes that nobody* wants to see.
*everybody |
An all-round entertaining football match should always include something that nobody* wants to see. 😂
*everybody [Post edited 14 Dec 2024 23:28]
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| motd on 23:28 - Dec 14 with 3258 views | FrimleyBlue |
| motd on 23:25 - Dec 14 by grow_our_own |
Cunha deserves to be retrospectively sent off. Clearly elbowed a member of our backstaff in the back of the head, with force:
Violent conduct. |
Not even just violent conduct. You do that in the street you're getting nicked. Elbow to the back of the head. Incredibly dangerous. |  |
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| motd on 23:40 - Dec 14 with 3119 views | stonojnr |
I cant believe people were blaming Muric for that, flippin eck, pointless even going in to detail all the mistakes that led to that one, but Muric aint the one taking the can for that one. | | | |
| motd on 23:41 - Dec 14 with 3103 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| motd on 23:14 - Dec 14 by Zx1988 |
Would he have been beaten, though, but for the deflection?
It feels as if some people are trying to attribute blame wherever they can. |
100% this.
The comment was nonsense.
Also, alot of people who know nothing about goal keeping go on too much about 'should NEVER be beaten at your near post', as if there is no nuance. |  |
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| motd on 23:46 - Dec 14 with 2986 views | Zx1988 |
| motd on 23:41 - Dec 14 by Marshalls_Mullet |
100% this.
The comment was nonsense.
Also, alot of people who know nothing about goal keeping go on too much about 'should NEVER be beaten at your near post', as if there is no nuance. |
The rules just go out the window the moment there's a deflection.
You can have the best positioning in the world, yet be beaten by a deflection off a well-struck shot. Similarly, you can have the positional awareness of a lasagne, yet have your blushes spared by a lucky deflection. | |
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| motd on 23:50 - Dec 14 with 2948 views | Hugoagogo_Reborn |
| motd on 23:46 - Dec 14 by Zx1988 |
The rules just go out the window the moment there's a deflection.
You can have the best positioning in the world, yet be beaten by a deflection off a well-struck shot. Similarly, you can have the positional awareness of a lasagne, yet have your blushes spared by a lucky deflection. |
I'm a staunch defender of Muric, but I haven't seen any footage that suggests a deflection by Clarke. If anyone has any, I'd like to see it. On MOTD and on TV live earlier, the ball seemed to just rocket into the top of the net. Even so, I do t think it was a massive error by Muric. Lots of errors in the lead up, and a great blasted shot.
Muric in. | | | |
| motd on 00:02 - Dec 15 with 2820 views | redrickstuhaart |
| motd on 23:25 - Dec 14 by grow_our_own |
Cunha deserves to be retrospectively sent off. Clearly elbowed a member of our backstaff in the back of the head, with force:
Violent conduct. |
Its also assault. Not a player, not heat of the moment in a sport. Thats literally criminal. | | | |
| motd on 00:02 - Dec 15 with 2818 views | DarkBrandon |
| motd on 23:50 - Dec 14 by Hugoagogo_Reborn |
I'm a staunch defender of Muric, but I haven't seen any footage that suggests a deflection by Clarke. If anyone has any, I'd like to see it. On MOTD and on TV live earlier, the ball seemed to just rocket into the top of the net. Even so, I do t think it was a massive error by Muric. Lots of errors in the lead up, and a great blasted shot.
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Have a look at the sky highlights. The third angle, from behind Muric shows it. |  | | |
| motd on 00:32 - Dec 15 with 2589 views | Churchman |
| motd on 23:40 - Dec 14 by stonojnr |
I cant believe people were blaming Muric for that, flippin eck, pointless even going in to detail all the mistakes that led to that one, but Muric aint the one taking the can for that one. |
Look, if it rains tomorrow Muric will get the blame. He actually wasn’t to blame for today’s goal though. It rocketed in from what I could see on MOTD. Not seen the full game through so cannot comment on the rest of his performance. [Post edited 15 Dec 2024 6:24]
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| motd on 07:42 - Dec 15 with 2073 views | HighgateBlue |
| motd on 23:40 - Dec 14 by stonojnr |
I cant believe people were blaming Muric for that, flippin eck, pointless even going in to detail all the mistakes that led to that one, but Muric aint the one taking the can for that one. |
Agreed. One of the reasons why it's so hard to tell whether there's a deflection is that the ball is travelling at quite some pace. A goalkeeper does not have to guarantee that he saves every shot in order not to be to blame for a goal, in my view. That's true regardless of which post he's beaten at (near, far, wherever you are.....). |  | | |
| motd on 08:34 - Dec 15 with 1853 views | DJR |
I had a perfect view of the goal because I was sat in a direct line from me to the scorer and on to Muric and the goal posts.
The issue for me was Muric's positioning because there was a large gap between him and the near post meaning he had to dive to his right (unsuccessfully) to try to prevent the goal.
It may be that he had set himself up for the cross but a goalkeeper should not really be beaten at his near post from such a narrow angle, whether or not there was a deflection.
My three friends thought the same as me, but these things happen, he otherwise played well and we won in the end which is all that matters. [Post edited 15 Dec 2024 8:37]
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| motd on 08:45 - Dec 15 with 1756 views | Nutkins_Return |
| motd on 23:11 - Dec 14 by Vaughan8 |
I have to admit, in real time I thought "how's he let that in".
But after the replays, it definitely gets a slight deflection which seems to take it past Muric.
So i'll excuse that from being an "error" though its still not good being beaten at your near post. |
So you excuse it but then basically still don't excuse it i. The same sentence. | |
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