| Villa officially sign Malen (Philogene replacement) (n/t) 12:59 - Jan 13 with 8463 views | Chris_ITFC |
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| Villa agree fee for Malen (Philogene replacement) (n/t) on 14:30 - Jan 13 with 2266 views | BseaBlue |
| Villa agree fee for Malen (Philogene replacement) (n/t) on 14:24 - Jan 13 by ElderGrizzly |
Sorry, yes not saying we could be buying him, it was more a comparison of players who play similar positions.
As Bloots says, wages will be higher but I'm sure we're not paying Philogene £5k a week either. |
I think it seems mental that he was going for £18mill in the summer prior to Villa activating the clause and now, having done very little so far this season, his value has increased! I suppose that's the January window in nutshell and as you say, an interesting comparison to the foreign market. |  | | |
| Villa agree fee for Malen (Philogene replacement) (n/t) on 14:30 - Jan 13 with 2266 views | Stewart27 |
| Villa agree fee for Malen (Philogene replacement) (n/t) on 13:16 - Jan 13 by FrimleyBlue |
Nothing like Philogene then |
They’re all forwards. But you already knew this.
Or if I go by your logic how do you know they’re not looking to replace a winger with a striker? |  | | |
| Villa agree fee for Malen (Philogene replacement) (n/t) on 14:34 - Jan 13 with 2210 views | NeverSayDie |
| Villa agree fee for Malen (Philogene replacement) (n/t) on 14:24 - Jan 13 by ElderGrizzly |
Sorry, yes not saying we could be buying him, it was more a comparison of players who play similar positions.
As Bloots says, wages will be higher but I'm sure we're not paying Philogene £5k a week either. |
Indeed, I’d imagine wages will be quite different, but it is a bit disheartening looking from a fee perspective. If we manage to stay up this season, we’ll be a much more attractive proposition and could attract some much better players and importantly, have the income to do so.
We are very proud to say that we have “X” amount of players in the squad who were playing League 1 a couple of seasons ago, but this is the opposite of a brag in the Prem, it’s the reason we are relegation threatened and it’s certainly not a massive draw for players we are trying to get in, they want to see quality players coming in to make them feel comfortable they’re making a good decision to join us. We are certainly heading the right way with the likes of Godfrey (experienced Prem player) Philogene, Hutch and Delap who have huge potential. |  | | |
| Villa agree fee for Malen (Philogene replacement) (n/t) on 14:35 - Jan 13 with 2202 views | hype313 |
Currently playing for a CL side, moving to a CL side.
As much as we all love our club, let's not get carried away with our current stature. |  |
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| Villa agree fee for Malen (Philogene replacement) (n/t) on 14:39 - Jan 13 with 2162 views | BloomBlue |
After Emery's comments about Philogene, I didn't get the impression Emery was going to play him even if he stayed. He certainly indicated Philogene wasn't at the PL level he was hopeful of. So not sure waiting to find a replacement is relative. |  | | |
| Villa agree fee for Malen (Philogene replacement) (n/t) on 14:41 - Jan 13 with 2124 views | Chris_ITFC |
| Villa agree fee for Malen (Philogene replacement) (n/t) on 14:39 - Jan 13 by BloomBlue |
After Emery's comments about Philogene, I didn't get the impression Emery was going to play him even if he stayed. He certainly indicated Philogene wasn't at the PL level he was hopeful of. So not sure waiting to find a replacement is relative. |
And you don’t think receiving a £20m transfer fee might help pay for a £20m player? | |
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| Villa agree fee for Malen (Philogene replacement) (n/t) on 14:47 - Jan 13 with 2070 views | bsw72 |
Not sure we could afford the 100K+ per week that Malen will be getting - considering he's already on 100K / week at Dortmund, I would imagine he will be only heading upwards from there |  | | |
| Villa agree fee for Malen (Philogene replacement) (n/t) on 15:14 - Jan 13 with 1960 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Villa agree fee for Malen (Philogene replacement) (n/t) on 14:00 - Jan 13 by pointofblue |
That, and we're being ripped off. |
We're not a Champions League team. |  |
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| Villa agree fee for Malen (Philogene replacement) (n/t) on 15:42 - Jan 13 with 1851 views | BloomBlue |
| Villa agree fee for Malen (Philogene replacement) (n/t) on 14:41 - Jan 13 by Chris_ITFC |
And you don’t think receiving a £20m transfer fee might help pay for a £20m player? |
That wasn't the question I was answering. The question was based around AV not selling Philogene until they had a replacement. My reply was based on Emery not thinking Philogene is good enough for the PL, so pointless keeping him even without a replacement.
Yes £20m sale, will help with a £20m purchase, but if AV is that short of money you would think they would want to make sure Philogene was sold before buying another player. If not the sale could fail leaving them with both players and £20m blackhole | | | |
| Villa agree fee for Malen (Philogene replacement) (n/t) on 16:05 - Jan 13 with 1762 views | NeverSayDie |
| Villa agree fee for Malen (Philogene replacement) (n/t) on 15:42 - Jan 13 by BloomBlue |
That wasn't the question I was answering. The question was based around AV not selling Philogene until they had a replacement. My reply was based on Emery not thinking Philogene is good enough for the PL, so pointless keeping him even without a replacement.
Yes £20m sale, will help with a £20m purchase, but if AV is that short of money you would think they would want to make sure Philogene was sold before buying another player. If not the sale could fail leaving them with both players and £20m blackhole |
“The word on the street” suggests that Emery likes Phil, but doesn’t think he’s doing enough to warrant a starting berth and Phil is unhappy (and outspoken about it) as he believes he deserves more minutes.
I’m not sure Phil wanted to go back to Villa tbh, he’d left the place to get more minutes, but didn’t have much of a choice when they activated the contract clause. [Post edited 13 Jan 16:14]
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| Villa agree fee for Malen (Philogene replacement) (n/t) on 16:18 - Jan 13 with 1670 views | Chris_ITFC |
| Villa agree fee for Malen (Philogene replacement) (n/t) on 16:05 - Jan 13 by NeverSayDie |
“The word on the street” suggests that Emery likes Phil, but doesn’t think he’s doing enough to warrant a starting berth and Phil is unhappy (and outspoken about it) as he believes he deserves more minutes.
I’m not sure Phil wanted to go back to Villa tbh, he’d left the place to get more minutes, but didn’t have much of a choice when they activated the contract clause. [Post edited 13 Jan 16:14]
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I do get the impression from Emery’s comments that there’s more to it, like you say. | |
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| Villa agree fee for Malen (Philogene replacement) (n/t) on 16:19 - Jan 13 with 1661 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Villa agree fee for Malen (Philogene replacement) (n/t) on 13:09 - Jan 13 by Stewart27 |
I think it’s quite naive to think otherwise.
It’s like saying that a chain is irrelevant when buying or selling a house. |
That analogy works, but in a different way. You can ignore the chain of you’ve got sufficient money to buy another house. Villa can easily afford another house.
It could well be the case that they want a replacement first, but given he’s not playing you’d think they wouldn’t be so precious. |  |
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| Villa agree fee for Malen (Philogene replacement) (n/t) on 16:51 - Jan 13 with 1508 views | _clive_baker_ |
| Villa agree fee for Malen (Philogene replacement) (n/t) on 14:47 - Jan 13 by bsw72 |
Not sure we could afford the 100K+ per week that Malen will be getting - considering he's already on 100K / week at Dortmund, I would imagine he will be only heading upwards from there |
I would imagine he'll be on close to £150k p/w at Villa. |  | | |
| Villa officially sign Malen (Philogene replacement) (n/t) on 17:33 - Jan 14 with 1281 views | Chris_ITFC |
Tick tock… | |
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| Villa officially sign Malen (Philogene replacement) (n/t) on 17:44 - Jan 14 with 1208 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Villa officially sign Malen (Philogene replacement) (n/t) on 17:33 - Jan 14 by Chris_ITFC |
Tick tock… |
Dunno why you're highlighting that you were wrong! | |
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| Villa agree fee for Malen (Philogene replacement) (n/t) on 17:47 - Jan 14 with 1160 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
| Villa agree fee for Malen (Philogene replacement) (n/t) on 16:05 - Jan 13 by NeverSayDie |
“The word on the street” suggests that Emery likes Phil, but doesn’t think he’s doing enough to warrant a starting berth and Phil is unhappy (and outspoken about it) as he believes he deserves more minutes.
I’m not sure Phil wanted to go back to Villa tbh, he’d left the place to get more minutes, but didn’t have much of a choice when they activated the contract clause. [Post edited 13 Jan 16:14]
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But he did didn't he? They could match the offer, less there sell on but ultimately the player still had the choice eas the impression I got |  |
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| Villa officially sign Malen (Philogene replacement) (n/t) on 17:56 - Jan 14 with 1040 views | Chris_ITFC |
| Villa officially sign Malen (Philogene replacement) (n/t) on 17:44 - Jan 14 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Dunno why you're highlighting that you were wrong! |
Which post are you referring to? | |
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| Villa agree fee for Malen (Philogene replacement) (n/t) on 18:00 - Jan 14 with 998 views | NeverSayDie |
| Villa agree fee for Malen (Philogene replacement) (n/t) on 17:47 - Jan 14 by BlueandTruesince82 |
But he did didn't he? They could match the offer, less there sell on but ultimately the player still had the choice eas the impression I got |
The murmurings from within Villa (validity questionable) were that he wasn’t keen on a return, unless guaranteed minutes (which makes sense as he left the club for game time, literally a few months before).
Impossible to say for certain on whether he had a say in the move, all depends on how the contract was written, but it wouldn’t be unusual for the terms to state that Hull would be “obligated” to contract with Villa, should they meet the offer made by another club, which would give the player no choice at all, it’s a contractual obligation. | | | |
| Villa officially sign Malen (Philogene replacement) (n/t) on 18:47 - Jan 14 with 849 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Villa officially sign Malen (Philogene replacement) (n/t) on 17:56 - Jan 14 by Chris_ITFC |
Which post are you referring to? |
The OP, from yesterday at 1pm, or have you updated it? | |
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| Villa officially sign Malen (Philogene replacement) (n/t) on 19:02 - Jan 14 with 800 views | Chris_ITFC |
| Villa officially sign Malen (Philogene replacement) (n/t) on 18:47 - Jan 14 by The_Flashing_Smile |
The OP, from yesterday at 1pm, or have you updated it? |
It was always (n/t) - any meaning was inferred by the readers, not written by me. 
The only update was the title, from fee agreed to officially signed. | |
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| Villa officially sign Malen (Philogene replacement) (n/t) on 19:05 - Jan 14 with 778 views | LankHenners |
| Villa officially sign Malen (Philogene replacement) (n/t) on 19:02 - Jan 14 by Chris_ITFC |
It was always (n/t) - any meaning was inferred by the readers, not written by me.
The only update was the title, from fee agreed to officially signed. |
You spent the rest of the thread arguing that us signing Philogene was dependant on Villa signing Malen which was and is completely wrong you silly sod. |  |
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| Villa officially sign Malen (Philogene replacement) (n/t) on 19:28 - Jan 14 with 715 views | Chris_ITFC |
| Villa officially sign Malen (Philogene replacement) (n/t) on 19:05 - Jan 14 by LankHenners |
You spent the rest of the thread arguing that us signing Philogene was dependant on Villa signing Malen which was and is completely wrong you silly sod. |
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| Villa officially sign Malen (Philogene replacement) (n/t) on 19:30 - Jan 14 with 697 views | LankHenners |
| Villa officially sign Malen (Philogene replacement) (n/t) on 19:28 - Jan 14 by Chris_ITFC |
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That’s the exact opposite of what your point was ffs. | |
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| Villa officially sign Malen (Philogene replacement) (n/t) on 19:35 - Jan 14 with 650 views | Chris_ITFC |
| Villa officially sign Malen (Philogene replacement) (n/t) on 19:30 - Jan 14 by LankHenners |
That’s the exact opposite of what your point was ffs. |
If even the manager of Aston Villa can't evidence that you were wrong, I'll leave you to argue with yourself. The deals are clearly linked. Quite basic.
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| Villa officially sign Malen (Philogene replacement) (n/t) on 19:38 - Jan 14 with 630 views | itfctilidie |
| Villa officially sign Malen (Philogene replacement) (n/t) on 19:35 - Jan 14 by Chris_ITFC |
If even the manager of Aston Villa can't evidence that you were wrong, I'll leave you to argue with yourself. The deals are clearly linked. Quite basic.
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Not sure what the villa manager is talking about, just looking for attention I suspect. Henk has already confirmed the deals aren't linked |  | | |
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