| I'm refusing to believe it's over 08:04 - Feb 2 with 4804 views | NedPlimpton |
Yeah, it's pretty bleak right now but I'm not going to start saying our fate is sealed just yet or that's it's the fault of the recruitment or the manager etc.
Last year on 3rd Feb we lost away at Preston and were seeing automatic promotion slip away from us. Many were even resigned to facing Norwich in the play offs
The season before on 21st Jan we lost away at Oxford and Barnsley were hunting us down as we slipped further behind Plymouth and Wednesday
These feel like darker times because the performances have been poor, but it's not beyond this side and McKenna to turn it around. We've done amazing things before and we can do them again. And let's be honest if we go down we're still in a far better position than any one of us could have imagined less than 3 years ago.
This isn't a call to back the players, but more my own take on why I'm not angry. I guess I'm somewhere between realism, as I never expected much more than what we're currently seeing, and hope because we've seen McKenna turn things around before |  | | |  |
| I'm refusing to believe it's over on 08:12 - Feb 2 with 3259 views | LA_Tractor_Boy |
Put yourself out of your misery mate and just enjoy watching Spurs and Arsenal etc. come to town.
I understand why you're looking to the past for inspiration, but this is the PL. It's an almost impossible task now. Everton have pulled away and Wolves are heading in the right direction, which means we'll probably have to win 6 of our 14 games to stay up. |  | | |
| I'm refusing to believe it's over on 08:26 - Feb 2 with 3187 views | NthQldITFC |
We're still pretty much level on points with the two teams we need to finish above. The gutless tantrums on this board are so pathetic. |  |
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| I'm refusing to believe it's over on 08:30 - Feb 2 with 3142 views | Pique |
| I'm refusing to believe it's over on 08:26 - Feb 2 by NthQldITFC |
We're still pretty much level on points with the two teams we need to finish above. The gutless tantrums on this board are so pathetic. |
While I agree with you about the tantrums, we're not pretty much level with Wolves - they have a precious three points advantage and a vastly superior goal difference. And a better squad. A couple more wins from them and it'll be a very tall order to catch them. |  | | |
| I'm refusing to believe it's over on 08:31 - Feb 2 with 3132 views | Blue_Heath |
Have you seen Wolves play they are so much better than us, Cunha just signed up too. We are not catching anyone possibly not even Leicester. To be honest after giving Southampton 4 points I am more worried about finishing bottom than staying up.
We never really had a chance tbh we gambled and spent huge money but most of it wasted other than Delap and maybe O'Shea. We'd have been better keeping the core of the squad the same. Is Greaves that much better than Burgess, Johnson than Clarke etc.
Broadhead was miles better than both Clarke and Philogene, seems we have stock piled Championship players to stop rivals next year getting them. A classic Chelsea tactic. A huge overhaul of the squad needed next season starting with central midfield.
Our scouting policy/network needs reviewing too, most of the players are no better than what we had (Muric) already.
Did I expect to go down this sesaon tbh 100% yes but the manner of it currently is hard to take and this season is becoming like our relegation one in the championship. | | | |
| I'm refusing to believe it's over on 08:32 - Feb 2 with 3120 views | Blue_Heath |
| I'm refusing to believe it's over on 08:30 - Feb 2 by Pique |
While I agree with you about the tantrums, we're not pretty much level with Wolves - they have a precious three points advantage and a vastly superior goal difference. And a better squad. A couple more wins from them and it'll be a very tall order to catch them. |
And that's exactly why we will go down. We are not going to win 2 more matches than Wolves, I doubt we will win two full stop. | | | |
| I'm refusing to believe it's over on 08:36 - Feb 2 with 3077 views | MK1 |
I accepted it before a ball was kicked. I hope and will continue to hope that we can stay up, but I fully expected us to struggle with the squad we have. It ain't over, so just enjoy the ride. |  |
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| I'm refusing to believe it's over on 08:40 - Feb 2 with 3041 views | Blue_Heath |
| I'm refusing to believe it's over on 08:36 - Feb 2 by MK1 |
I accepted it before a ball was kicked. I hope and will continue to hope that we can stay up, but I fully expected us to struggle with the squad we have. It ain't over, so just enjoy the ride. |
Don't know if it's just me but losing 2-0 to Liverpool, scoring at Man City felt great but bit by bit I am hating this season, yesterday along with losing in the league cup was a real low point. If we go out in the FA Cup next week season is done, I'd take an FA Cup semi just to see us finally play at the new Wembley as we are one of only a handful of teams not to do so. | | | |
| I'm refusing to believe it's over on 08:55 - Feb 2 with 2956 views | TheBoyBlue |
I'm not angry either, because I don't feel particularly justified in getting angry. If it wasn't for Gamechanger, McKenna, Pert, etc we'd probably be bumbling along in L1 or L2 moaning about losing at home to Bromley or someone like that and watching the slow death of our club rather than a match that has set us back in staying in the Premier League.
However, that was so deflating and whilst mathematically it is still closed and that is a huge credit to the club in the circumstances, I'm afraid that if we can't take advantage of a team as poor and low on confidence as that in front of a stadium that was really up for it then I just can't see where we're going to get enough wins.
I suppose one good thing is that we've still got Wolves at home, but I expect our result yesterday probably gave them an even bigger boost to them than it did Southampton and I imagine they'll probably be just stretch too far away. | |
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| I'm refusing to believe it's over on 09:16 - Feb 2 with 2869 views | ericclacton |
The season up to now has been a sheet show that's all.
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| I'm refusing to believe it's over on 10:20 - Feb 2 with 2784 views | Blue_Heath |
| I'm refusing to believe it's over on 08:55 - Feb 2 by TheBoyBlue |
I'm not angry either, because I don't feel particularly justified in getting angry. If it wasn't for Gamechanger, McKenna, Pert, etc we'd probably be bumbling along in L1 or L2 moaning about losing at home to Bromley or someone like that and watching the slow death of our club rather than a match that has set us back in staying in the Premier League.
However, that was so deflating and whilst mathematically it is still closed and that is a huge credit to the club in the circumstances, I'm afraid that if we can't take advantage of a team as poor and low on confidence as that in front of a stadium that was really up for it then I just can't see where we're going to get enough wins.
I suppose one good thing is that we've still got Wolves at home, but I expect our result yesterday probably gave them an even bigger boost to them than it did Southampton and I imagine they'll probably be just stretch too far away. |
Wolves will beat us comfortably and to be honest will be 10 points clear of us by then. | | | |
| I'm refusing to believe it's over on 10:23 - Feb 2 with 2769 views | SaffronWaldenBlues |
The players believe it is over, that’s the problem. Yesterday we lost the battle in our heads. |  |
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| I'm refusing to believe it's over on 10:29 - Feb 2 with 2723 views | redrickstuhaart |
| I'm refusing to believe it's over on 10:23 - Feb 2 by SaffronWaldenBlues |
The players believe it is over, that’s the problem. Yesterday we lost the battle in our heads. |
This is the key point. The confidence is gone.
That always leads to idiots talking about players not trying, or other sides wanting it mroe which is just nonsense.
However, players who's confidence is gone take an extra touch to make sure, take the safer passing option, show for the ball in a safe rather than tight spot, snatch at shots, make bad decisions they would not normally make etc etc. That imapcts everything. | | | |
| I'm refusing to believe it's over on 10:38 - Feb 2 with 2690 views | WinchBlue |
We’ve all heard it before - it’s a funny old game! Although in all likelihood we will be relegated in May, there will be the inevitable twists and turns. Me? I’m just enjoying the ride. If we somehow manage to survive - brilliant! If we go down, well that’s ok as well and (with any luck) we’ll have a season winning most games instead of losing! |  | | |
| I'm refusing to believe it's over on 10:53 - Feb 2 with 2624 views | Ryorry |
KM has to start being prepared to change tack swiftly, something he was so brilliant at especially with subs last season but which knack appears to have gone awry this season.
On another thread I wondered whether he’d changed his analytics software or something. I just don’t understand why he’s sticking with things that aren’t working for so long, including not using players like Hirst and Burgess more. Has he been told he *must* use our expensive new signings more?
And it’s still possible we’ll get new personnel in before the window closes. I think one of those has to be a keeper now, with CW forecast to be out for weeks. |  |
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| I'm refusing to believe it's over on 11:12 - Feb 2 with 2559 views | pointofblue |
| I'm refusing to believe it's over on 10:53 - Feb 2 by Ryorry |
KM has to start being prepared to change tack swiftly, something he was so brilliant at especially with subs last season but which knack appears to have gone awry this season.
On another thread I wondered whether he’d changed his analytics software or something. I just don’t understand why he’s sticking with things that aren’t working for so long, including not using players like Hirst and Burgess more. Has he been told he *must* use our expensive new signings more?
And it’s still possible we’ll get new personnel in before the window closes. I think one of those has to be a keeper now, with CW forecast to be out for weeks. |
I don't think McKenna was that brilliant at changing tack last year. He didn't need to be. He just made like for like subs and more often than not, they worked. This year they're not due to the difference in quality. | |
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| I'm refusing to believe it's over on 11:16 - Feb 2 with 2534 views | flykickingbybgunn |
| I'm refusing to believe it's over on 10:38 - Feb 2 by WinchBlue |
We’ve all heard it before - it’s a funny old game! Although in all likelihood we will be relegated in May, there will be the inevitable twists and turns. Me? I’m just enjoying the ride. If we somehow manage to survive - brilliant! If we go down, well that’s ok as well and (with any luck) we’ll have a season winning most games instead of losing! |
If it is all over this season and I'm not saying it is, then it has been a hell of a ride to get here.
Next season we would still have a team that nearly won the Championship sat on the bench ready to come on to help the current first team.
This is not the end of the story. This is just half way through chapter 3. |  | | |
| I'm refusing to believe it's over on 11:19 - Feb 2 with 2511 views | Ryorry |
| I'm refusing to believe it's over on 11:12 - Feb 2 by pointofblue |
I don't think McKenna was that brilliant at changing tack last year. He didn't need to be. He just made like for like subs and more often than not, they worked. This year they're not due to the difference in quality. |
I’d meant to include our promotion season from L1 as well. | |
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| I'm refusing to believe it's over on 11:21 - Feb 2 with 2486 views | J2BLUE |
It's definitely not over. It will be difficult but if we're going to give up three points from safety with 14 games to go we might as well just fold the club. |  |
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| I'm refusing to believe it's over on 11:24 - Feb 2 with 2461 views | Bluebell |
I always said we should have had another year in the Championship to enjoy the games, attract players who were up for the challenge, and support the team through thick and thin.
This season I hate seeing us beaten all the time. So much so that my son used my ticket yesterday (although it was because I thought he would see us win for once).
I am told there were boos after the game yesterday too! That did shock me. |  | | |
| I'm refusing to believe it's over on 12:16 - Feb 2 with 2325 views | Blue_Heath |
| I'm refusing to believe it's over on 11:24 - Feb 2 by Bluebell |
I always said we should have had another year in the Championship to enjoy the games, attract players who were up for the challenge, and support the team through thick and thin.
This season I hate seeing us beaten all the time. So much so that my son used my ticket yesterday (although it was because I thought he would see us win for once).
I am told there were boos after the game yesterday too! That did shock me. |
There were some boos although may have been at ref not sure but tbh second half was certainly boo worthy, I didn't but can understand why some did if it was the case. | | | |
| I'm refusing to believe it's over on 12:18 - Feb 2 with 2316 views | pointofblue |
| I'm refusing to believe it's over on 11:19 - Feb 2 by Ryorry |
I’d meant to include our promotion season from L1 as well. |
Yes, in League One he maybe tinkered more, but had a clear advantage. Indeed, there we were more the Manchester City in terms of squad quality. | |
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| I'm refusing to believe it's over on 12:22 - Feb 2 with 2275 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
Further similarities with those two seasons:
Before the seasons started we would have taken a play off spot or even staying up in the Championship but fan expectations had risen by January. This time around the vast majority expected a relegation battle but now seem to expect us to stay up comfortably.
EDIT: Oh, and failing to sign the elusive striker we have been after for 3 years too. [Post edited 2 Feb 12:22]
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| I'm refusing to believe it's over on 12:25 - Feb 2 with 2241 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| I'm refusing to believe it's over on 08:31 - Feb 2 by Blue_Heath |
Have you seen Wolves play they are so much better than us, Cunha just signed up too. We are not catching anyone possibly not even Leicester. To be honest after giving Southampton 4 points I am more worried about finishing bottom than staying up.
We never really had a chance tbh we gambled and spent huge money but most of it wasted other than Delap and maybe O'Shea. We'd have been better keeping the core of the squad the same. Is Greaves that much better than Burgess, Johnson than Clarke etc.
Broadhead was miles better than both Clarke and Philogene, seems we have stock piled Championship players to stop rivals next year getting them. A classic Chelsea tactic. A huge overhaul of the squad needed next season starting with central midfield.
Our scouting policy/network needs reviewing too, most of the players are no better than what we had (Muric) already.
Did I expect to go down this sesaon tbh 100% yes but the manner of it currently is hard to take and this season is becoming like our relegation one in the championship. |
By "the manner of it is hard to take" do you mean that you didn't expect us to get this close to staying up and thought we would be more in Southampton's position and this is somehow worse? Please do explain your logic on the manner of it.
In what way is this like the season we finished rock bottom below a team of youths in administration on the verge of going bankrupt? | |
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| I'm refusing to believe it's over on 12:25 - Feb 2 with 2241 views | pointofblue |
| I'm refusing to believe it's over on 12:22 - Feb 2 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Further similarities with those two seasons:
Before the seasons started we would have taken a play off spot or even staying up in the Championship but fan expectations had risen by January. This time around the vast majority expected a relegation battle but now seem to expect us to stay up comfortably.
EDIT: Oh, and failing to sign the elusive striker we have been after for 3 years too. [Post edited 2 Feb 12:22]
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The edited part is the most annoying. How can we have had the same issue three years in a row without learning from it? | |
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| I'm refusing to believe it's over on 13:27 - Feb 2 with 2131 views | billabasblue |
It’s over | | | |
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