| Assuming no surprises - transfer window out of 10? 20:56 - Feb 3 with 6433 views | NeedhamChris |
It's a 4 from me I think. |  |
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| Frimmers is back, Frimmers is back..... on 04:17 - Feb 4 with 1370 views | _clive_baker_ |
| Frimmers is back, Frimmers is back..... on 22:32 - Feb 3 by NeedhamChris |
Question is, who is going to get deregistered to make room? |
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| Assuming no surprises - transfer window out of 10? on 06:56 - Feb 4 with 1314 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Assuming no surprises - transfer window out of 10? on 21:18 - Feb 3 by pointofblue |
3 - for Enciso. Godfrey's arrival seems slightly inexplicable at this stage. If Woolfenden went out on loan I could understand it a bit more. And Philogene looked out of his depth on Saturday. Very concerning considering amount paid for him. |
Philogene's only been here 5 minutes, let's not write him off just yet eh? |  |
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| Assuming no surprises - transfer window out of 10? on 07:01 - Feb 4 with 1290 views | NeedhamChris |
| Assuming no surprises - transfer window out of 10? on 06:56 - Feb 4 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Philogene's only been here 5 minutes, let's not write him off just yet eh? |
Agreed, although I think some are being harsher because we didn't then sign a CM or CF.
He could do with a start I think to try and get some confidence.
Maybe it's set up for a full debut against Aston Villa.
What do you give the window? | |
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| Assuming no surprises - transfer window out of 10? on 07:03 - Feb 4 with 1282 views | jasondozzell |
6.5.possibly 7 |  | | |
| Assuming no surprises - transfer window out of 10? on 07:11 - Feb 4 with 1254 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Assuming no surprises - transfer window out of 10? on 07:01 - Feb 4 by NeedhamChris |
Agreed, although I think some are being harsher because we didn't then sign a CM or CF.
He could do with a start I think to try and get some confidence.
Maybe it's set up for a full debut against Aston Villa.
What do you give the window? |
Hard to say given we've hardly seen most of them play, if at all.
6/7 | |
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| Assuming no surprises - transfer window out of 10? on 09:07 - Feb 4 with 1172 views | itfcsuth |
| Assuming no surprises - transfer window out of 10? on 02:36 - Feb 4 by Olcol |
What a bunch of wingers. What world are you people living in. As I understand it we are fighting in the relegation zone short on finance by ffp and there are shortages in Delap type players. We have done better than I expected by a long way. Any player good enough for you guys on here are out of our financial league and are after silverware, not a relegation battle.Get behind your team and
manager give those player some respect at least they have wanted to lay for us.Rant over. |
We are a bunch of wingers, there is no doubt.
Presume you mean whinger, but I am not sure that just because a post doesn't go with the grain of positivity, of which there is a lot of things to be positive about at the club, in isolation, the transfer windows have been poor.
Enciso looks lively, albeit raw but looks a talent. Philogene an unnecessary £20m that would have been better invested elsewhere, Godfrey unlikely to kick a ball in anger an an emergency signing of a goalkeeper (impossible to judge but gut says he will do well).
However I do not feel that our window has bought in enough quality to keep us in the division, and the same can be said for the summer window.
That doesn't merit a high score on the fictional scale, it's just a reality that we have struggled in the market. |  | | |
| Assuming no surprises - transfer window out of 10? on 09:20 - Feb 4 with 1164 views | itfcjoe |
6-7 for me.
Palmer - with Walton injured and Muric seemingly shot at the moment we just had to get a deal done, and managed to pick up one of the most impressive keepers in the Championship who is playing regularly and ready to come straight in for a good level fee. He might not be the perfect keeper for long term, but he's here, ready, and a good character so that's a plus
Godfrey - we needed to upgrade this position as Harry Clarke didn't look ready and Axel Tuanzebe is very fragile. It might be that he doesn't play a huge amount but think it is an excellent squad pick up
Enciso - Looks a real needle mover where we need it, someone who loves a shot, tries to make stuff happen, and is massively talented.
Philogene - long term target who we were desperate for in the summer, signing a long term deal at the club is always good news to me. Not been the best start but he'll come good over his contract, we've seen how talented he is and I'd rather us revisit those who we have pinpointed than panic in a window to try and stay up and potentially hanstring us down the line.
Issues
Centre midfield - I would have liked Downes and think we'd have got him had we won on Saturday and still feel we are a little short in there. Phillips isn't going to get it back, Morsy just not quite up to it for 90 mins week in-week out, Cajuste is eye catching but makes too many errors and can't last 90 minutes.....needed an upgrade and work to do there in the summer.
Centre forward - We needed one, but I'd give the club a bit of a pass on this as just isn't the market and was the right thing to do to get Ali out on loan. Brighton just spent £20m on a teenage Greek striker with 10 goals in the German second division and left him out on loan.....that's the market and it's impossible for us.
Right wing - can you sign someone just because have 2 long term injuries there? Had Burns gone down before signings of Philogene and Enciso would we have acted differently? Quite possibly but that's timing and was out of our hands.....we want deals early and this can be the outcome.
But we are in a better position than we were, but think we all hoped for a bit more after the success of the last last 2 January windows |  |
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| Assuming no surprises - transfer window out of 10? on 11:02 - Feb 4 with 1072 views | NeedhamChris |
| Assuming no surprises - transfer window out of 10? on 09:20 - Feb 4 by itfcjoe |
6-7 for me.
Palmer - with Walton injured and Muric seemingly shot at the moment we just had to get a deal done, and managed to pick up one of the most impressive keepers in the Championship who is playing regularly and ready to come straight in for a good level fee. He might not be the perfect keeper for long term, but he's here, ready, and a good character so that's a plus
Godfrey - we needed to upgrade this position as Harry Clarke didn't look ready and Axel Tuanzebe is very fragile. It might be that he doesn't play a huge amount but think it is an excellent squad pick up
Enciso - Looks a real needle mover where we need it, someone who loves a shot, tries to make stuff happen, and is massively talented.
Philogene - long term target who we were desperate for in the summer, signing a long term deal at the club is always good news to me. Not been the best start but he'll come good over his contract, we've seen how talented he is and I'd rather us revisit those who we have pinpointed than panic in a window to try and stay up and potentially hanstring us down the line.
Issues
Centre midfield - I would have liked Downes and think we'd have got him had we won on Saturday and still feel we are a little short in there. Phillips isn't going to get it back, Morsy just not quite up to it for 90 mins week in-week out, Cajuste is eye catching but makes too many errors and can't last 90 minutes.....needed an upgrade and work to do there in the summer.
Centre forward - We needed one, but I'd give the club a bit of a pass on this as just isn't the market and was the right thing to do to get Ali out on loan. Brighton just spent £20m on a teenage Greek striker with 10 goals in the German second division and left him out on loan.....that's the market and it's impossible for us.
Right wing - can you sign someone just because have 2 long term injuries there? Had Burns gone down before signings of Philogene and Enciso would we have acted differently? Quite possibly but that's timing and was out of our hands.....we want deals early and this can be the outcome.
But we are in a better position than we were, but think we all hoped for a bit more after the success of the last last 2 January windows |
I think this is a very fair and balanced appraisal.
I think my 4 is probably influenced a bit by the deadline day propoganda that Sky put out - had we signed everyone yesterday probably wouldn't have such an anti-climactic feel. In reality it's probably a bit like having a disappointing Christmas Day because you were given most of your presents early.
The Palmer signing is as good as you can realistically expect given the urgent need to replace Walton.
The CM is probably the one I'm most frustrated by - it's an obvious area where we really need more quality (and stamina), and I don't think the same limitations apply in the market as they do for a CF.
I'd probably still have taken an Iheanacho or similar just for a bit of an AAH upgrade - but agree the market is just bonkers for this position.
I don't think it's enough to keep us up - and that's also probably influencing my score - but that needed a terrific window rather than just a good one. Hope I'm wrong of course... | |
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| Assuming no surprises - transfer window out of 10? on 11:27 - Feb 4 with 1037 views | ZapatasMoustache |
Six or maybe seven? Got in a quality defender, a promising winger, a great loan attacker, a potential future LWB, and a solid option at keeper. Shipped out two we're not ready to cut ties with on loan plus sensibly sold Fridge. Held on to everyone useful. Not sure how much more we could have got. Clearly we were exploring strikers but not worth breaking the bank for. Looks like we tried to recruit in midfield too, but again, with things as they are (our situation, January windows more generally) it's tough. Without a more sophisticated foreign scouting network it's overpaying for local or locally-known talent. |  | | |
| Assuming no surprises - transfer window out of 10? on 12:10 - Feb 4 with 978 views | southnorfolkblue |
| Assuming no surprises - transfer window out of 10? on 11:02 - Feb 4 by NeedhamChris |
I think this is a very fair and balanced appraisal.
I think my 4 is probably influenced a bit by the deadline day propoganda that Sky put out - had we signed everyone yesterday probably wouldn't have such an anti-climactic feel. In reality it's probably a bit like having a disappointing Christmas Day because you were given most of your presents early.
The Palmer signing is as good as you can realistically expect given the urgent need to replace Walton.
The CM is probably the one I'm most frustrated by - it's an obvious area where we really need more quality (and stamina), and I don't think the same limitations apply in the market as they do for a CF.
I'd probably still have taken an Iheanacho or similar just for a bit of an AAH upgrade - but agree the market is just bonkers for this position.
I don't think it's enough to keep us up - and that's also probably influencing my score - but that needed a terrific window rather than just a good one. Hope I'm wrong of course... |
The Philogene signing baffles me tbh and it's not because of his performances to date, but how many players whose preferred position is coming off the left do we need? I get that he was first choice over Clarke back in August, but we missed out then and simply had to move on. Our attacking options look so unbalanced that I fear they will hold us back for the rest of the season | |
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| Assuming no surprises - transfer window out of 10? on 12:14 - Feb 4 with 960 views | sjg |
| Assuming no surprises - transfer window out of 10? on 09:20 - Feb 4 by itfcjoe |
6-7 for me.
Palmer - with Walton injured and Muric seemingly shot at the moment we just had to get a deal done, and managed to pick up one of the most impressive keepers in the Championship who is playing regularly and ready to come straight in for a good level fee. He might not be the perfect keeper for long term, but he's here, ready, and a good character so that's a plus
Godfrey - we needed to upgrade this position as Harry Clarke didn't look ready and Axel Tuanzebe is very fragile. It might be that he doesn't play a huge amount but think it is an excellent squad pick up
Enciso - Looks a real needle mover where we need it, someone who loves a shot, tries to make stuff happen, and is massively talented.
Philogene - long term target who we were desperate for in the summer, signing a long term deal at the club is always good news to me. Not been the best start but he'll come good over his contract, we've seen how talented he is and I'd rather us revisit those who we have pinpointed than panic in a window to try and stay up and potentially hanstring us down the line.
Issues
Centre midfield - I would have liked Downes and think we'd have got him had we won on Saturday and still feel we are a little short in there. Phillips isn't going to get it back, Morsy just not quite up to it for 90 mins week in-week out, Cajuste is eye catching but makes too many errors and can't last 90 minutes.....needed an upgrade and work to do there in the summer.
Centre forward - We needed one, but I'd give the club a bit of a pass on this as just isn't the market and was the right thing to do to get Ali out on loan. Brighton just spent £20m on a teenage Greek striker with 10 goals in the German second division and left him out on loan.....that's the market and it's impossible for us.
Right wing - can you sign someone just because have 2 long term injuries there? Had Burns gone down before signings of Philogene and Enciso would we have acted differently? Quite possibly but that's timing and was out of our hands.....we want deals early and this can be the outcome.
But we are in a better position than we were, but think we all hoped for a bit more after the success of the last last 2 January windows |
Hit the nail on the head with issues, thought we could do with a right winger in the Burns/Ogbene mould even before Burns got injured.
Difficult to go above a 5 for me - also unconvinced on Godfrey given how good we looked with O'Shea in the Axel and Wolfie in the O'Shea
Also felt to me as though in the summer it was either Philogene or Clarke - unlikely that was ever the case but feels like we have too many attacking wingers. Do feel sorry for Philogene as some on here have written him off based on Liverpool, City and Saturday - I felt on Saturday that we got worse when he came on because we shuffled round the 3 behind Delap which was working, as opposed to him being on over Broadhead. | | | |
| Assuming no surprises - transfer window out of 10? on 13:00 - Feb 4 with 902 views | pointofblue |
| Assuming no surprises - transfer window out of 10? on 12:10 - Feb 4 by southnorfolkblue |
The Philogene signing baffles me tbh and it's not because of his performances to date, but how many players whose preferred position is coming off the left do we need? I get that he was first choice over Clarke back in August, but we missed out then and simply had to move on. Our attacking options look so unbalanced that I fear they will hold us back for the rest of the season |
If his role is coming off the left, why did he pop up so often on the right on Saturday? That was my biggest bugbear, beyond Broadhead going off, as it messed up the shape of the front four. | |
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| Assuming no surprises - transfer window out of 10? on 13:08 - Feb 4 with 892 views | itfc_statman |
4 or 5 - not really addressed the key issues and, in my opinion at least, horrifically overpaid on one player who wasn't desperately needed.
But it's a hard window particularly when most signings will be looking at us as almost relegation certainties. | | | |
| Assuming no surprises - transfer window out of 10? on 13:10 - Feb 4 with 879 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Assuming no surprises - transfer window out of 10? on 13:00 - Feb 4 by pointofblue |
If his role is coming off the left, why did he pop up so often on the right on Saturday? That was my biggest bugbear, beyond Broadhead going off, as it messed up the shape of the front four. |
He moved across when Jack Clarke came on, he did start off in the broady role when he first come on. |  |
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| Nailed it Joe on 13:15 - Feb 4 with 877 views | unstableblue |
| Assuming no surprises - transfer window out of 10? on 09:20 - Feb 4 by itfcjoe |
6-7 for me.
Palmer - with Walton injured and Muric seemingly shot at the moment we just had to get a deal done, and managed to pick up one of the most impressive keepers in the Championship who is playing regularly and ready to come straight in for a good level fee. He might not be the perfect keeper for long term, but he's here, ready, and a good character so that's a plus
Godfrey - we needed to upgrade this position as Harry Clarke didn't look ready and Axel Tuanzebe is very fragile. It might be that he doesn't play a huge amount but think it is an excellent squad pick up
Enciso - Looks a real needle mover where we need it, someone who loves a shot, tries to make stuff happen, and is massively talented.
Philogene - long term target who we were desperate for in the summer, signing a long term deal at the club is always good news to me. Not been the best start but he'll come good over his contract, we've seen how talented he is and I'd rather us revisit those who we have pinpointed than panic in a window to try and stay up and potentially hanstring us down the line.
Issues
Centre midfield - I would have liked Downes and think we'd have got him had we won on Saturday and still feel we are a little short in there. Phillips isn't going to get it back, Morsy just not quite up to it for 90 mins week in-week out, Cajuste is eye catching but makes too many errors and can't last 90 minutes.....needed an upgrade and work to do there in the summer.
Centre forward - We needed one, but I'd give the club a bit of a pass on this as just isn't the market and was the right thing to do to get Ali out on loan. Brighton just spent £20m on a teenage Greek striker with 10 goals in the German second division and left him out on loan.....that's the market and it's impossible for us.
Right wing - can you sign someone just because have 2 long term injuries there? Had Burns gone down before signings of Philogene and Enciso would we have acted differently? Quite possibly but that's timing and was out of our hands.....we want deals early and this can be the outcome.
But we are in a better position than we were, but think we all hoped for a bit more after the success of the last last 2 January windows |
Agree with everything in your post.
I’d go 7/10.
Three key points you make:
- Philogene is a long term target, they get this ability, good to finally secure, yes a weak start, but he’s coming into the team at a bad time
- Burns injury is huge, and perhaps would have changed some of our plans
- Saints maybe would have sold Downes if season had been ended Saturday, and we we need him back |  |
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| Assuming no surprises - transfer window out of 10? on 18:24 - Feb 4 with 763 views | southnorfolkblue |
| Assuming no surprises - transfer window out of 10? on 13:00 - Feb 4 by pointofblue |
If his role is coming off the left, why did he pop up so often on the right on Saturday? That was my biggest bugbear, beyond Broadhead going off, as it messed up the shape of the front four. |
Ask Hull fans where he did all his best work | |
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| Assuming no surprises - transfer window out of 10? on 18:37 - Feb 4 with 754 views | DJR |
In the circumstances (January is never an easy window and we have limited resources), I'd give it an 8. |  | | |
| Assuming no surprises - transfer window out of 10? on 18:54 - Feb 4 with 723 views | HighgateBlue |
| Assuming no surprises - transfer window out of 10? on 09:20 - Feb 4 by itfcjoe |
6-7 for me.
Palmer - with Walton injured and Muric seemingly shot at the moment we just had to get a deal done, and managed to pick up one of the most impressive keepers in the Championship who is playing regularly and ready to come straight in for a good level fee. He might not be the perfect keeper for long term, but he's here, ready, and a good character so that's a plus
Godfrey - we needed to upgrade this position as Harry Clarke didn't look ready and Axel Tuanzebe is very fragile. It might be that he doesn't play a huge amount but think it is an excellent squad pick up
Enciso - Looks a real needle mover where we need it, someone who loves a shot, tries to make stuff happen, and is massively talented.
Philogene - long term target who we were desperate for in the summer, signing a long term deal at the club is always good news to me. Not been the best start but he'll come good over his contract, we've seen how talented he is and I'd rather us revisit those who we have pinpointed than panic in a window to try and stay up and potentially hanstring us down the line.
Issues
Centre midfield - I would have liked Downes and think we'd have got him had we won on Saturday and still feel we are a little short in there. Phillips isn't going to get it back, Morsy just not quite up to it for 90 mins week in-week out, Cajuste is eye catching but makes too many errors and can't last 90 minutes.....needed an upgrade and work to do there in the summer.
Centre forward - We needed one, but I'd give the club a bit of a pass on this as just isn't the market and was the right thing to do to get Ali out on loan. Brighton just spent £20m on a teenage Greek striker with 10 goals in the German second division and left him out on loan.....that's the market and it's impossible for us.
Right wing - can you sign someone just because have 2 long term injuries there? Had Burns gone down before signings of Philogene and Enciso would we have acted differently? Quite possibly but that's timing and was out of our hands.....we want deals early and this can be the outcome.
But we are in a better position than we were, but think we all hoped for a bit more after the success of the last last 2 January windows |
Agree with all of that.
Cajuste rightly gets a fair amount of credit, and most would have him in their starting 11. However, why on earth IS it that he seemingly can't play a whole match? He's played 18 games for us, and hasn't played 90 minutes in any of them.
He's the best part of a decade younger than Morsy! |  | | |
| Assuming no surprises - transfer window out of 10? on 19:17 - Feb 4 with 706 views | southnorfolkblue |
| Assuming no surprises - transfer window out of 10? on 18:54 - Feb 4 by HighgateBlue |
Agree with all of that.
Cajuste rightly gets a fair amount of credit, and most would have him in their starting 11. However, why on earth IS it that he seemingly can't play a whole match? He's played 18 games for us, and hasn't played 90 minutes in any of them.
He's the best part of a decade younger than Morsy! |
Ask yourself why Brentford pulled out of the race to sign him.
Suspect there is something significantly wrong with that knee. | |
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| Frimmers is back, Frimmers is back..... on 19:52 - Feb 9 with 290 views | MK1 |
| Frimmers is back, Frimmers is back..... on 22:32 - Feb 3 by NeedhamChris |
Question is, who is going to get deregistered to make room? |
I'll go. |  |
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