| 'Appalling' season on 06:24 - Feb 25 with 5205 views | Blue_Heath |
I posted something along a similar vein but not so damning a weeks back and people didn't like it.
Can someone tell me a worse season please because there is now way of dressing it up, it's been horrible. |  | |  |
| 'Appalling' season on 06:41 - Feb 25 with 5132 views | peterleeblue |
| 'Appalling' season on 06:24 - Feb 25 by Blue_Heath |
I posted something along a similar vein but not so damning a weeks back and people didn't like it.
Can someone tell me a worse season please because there is now way of dressing it up, it's been horrible. |
can assure you 94 95 was much worse. |  | | |
| 'Appalling' season on 06:53 - Feb 25 with 5084 views | homer_123 |
| 'Appalling' season on 06:24 - Feb 25 by Blue_Heath |
I posted something along a similar vein but not so damning a weeks back and people didn't like it.
Can someone tell me a worse season please because there is now way of dressing it up, it's been horrible. |
A more recent example for you is when we gave up in the Championship and were relegated to L1 with barely a whimper.
That was appalling. Truly horrible in our completely abject approach to staying up. The football was awful, the management were awful...the Club was dying (died actually).
This season, we've been competitive but yes, struggled at times. But the squad is good even if relegation happens, the Club is healthy and one thing for sure under KM. We won't stop trying to stay up.
Appalling, no. |  |
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| 'Appalling' season on 06:56 - Feb 25 with 5053 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| 'Appalling' season on 06:24 - Feb 25 by Blue_Heath |
I posted something along a similar vein but not so damning a weeks back and people didn't like it.
Can someone tell me a worse season please because there is now way of dressing it up, it's been horrible. |
You did, and your take was and still is as awful as this clickbaity/troll-y article.
You sound like you've only been supporting Ipswich a handful of years. There are several worse seasons in our history. |  |
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| 'Appalling' season on 07:02 - Feb 25 with 5008 views | billlm |
Wouldn't says it's a appalling,
A very steep learning curve which won't harm us if we're back in the next couple of seasons,
IF we learn We should be better equipped to deal with everything,
I think the number one lesson I've learnt is we're a very small fish we are going to be given nothing nothing,
So we have to win games cleanly,
Last two seasons we've had luck this season we haven't really had any that haven't helped, |  | | |
| 'Appalling' season on 07:31 - Feb 25 with 4896 views | Horsham |
| 'Appalling' season on 06:24 - Feb 25 by Blue_Heath |
I posted something along a similar vein but not so damning a weeks back and people didn't like it.
Can someone tell me a worse season please because there is now way of dressing it up, it's been horrible. |
In recent years we’ve had seasons where we were relegated from the championship, been beaten heavily at places like AFC Wimbledon and Northampton, going back a bit further I think it’s fair to say 94-95 was worse, we’ve been for about 15 years slowly ground into the dirt in the championship in between our last Prem relegation and our championship relegation.
Yes this season has felt like a kick in the balls but 1/ we’re not down yet and if we somehow managed to stay up it’ll be our third pitch invasion last game in as many years. Big if but it’s not impossible and 2/ If we go down we do in a stronger position than the previous two Prem relegations.
I respectfully totally disagree with you! |  | | |
| 'Appalling' season on 07:40 - Feb 25 with 4859 views | ibbleobble |
It has been a terrible season, there’s no dressing it up. The clamour around it being a good squad is a non-sensical argument if it doesn’t deliver at this level. Who cares if it’s good for the Championship, we’re not in the Championship!?
I think what we all find bewildering is that we’re still making the same mistakes that we were earlier in the season. Davis’s marking of Johnson for the first goal on Saturday being the prime example. We’re told how much attention to detail the team have in training yet for Johnson’s second he’d pulled off, Davis was overloaded and he had so much space and time it was bizarre. Look at what De Bruyne did to us with inside runs and then what Son did to us when attacking the box. It’s really poor all around and should be bread and butter to defend against.
IMO and an unpopular one, KM has been poor too often this season and should start coming under the microscope at this level soon because, as the article states, for £140m investment, there needs to be a better return.
United is a must win tomorrow. If Wolves win tonight, we’re 8 adrift and for all the noise about “we are where we should be”, we won’t be if results go against us. At least, please, try and keep a clean sheet at Old Trafford! | | | |
| 'Appalling' season on 07:42 - Feb 25 with 4837 views | Herbivore |
| 'Appalling' season on 07:40 - Feb 25 by ibbleobble |
It has been a terrible season, there’s no dressing it up. The clamour around it being a good squad is a non-sensical argument if it doesn’t deliver at this level. Who cares if it’s good for the Championship, we’re not in the Championship!?
I think what we all find bewildering is that we’re still making the same mistakes that we were earlier in the season. Davis’s marking of Johnson for the first goal on Saturday being the prime example. We’re told how much attention to detail the team have in training yet for Johnson’s second he’d pulled off, Davis was overloaded and he had so much space and time it was bizarre. Look at what De Bruyne did to us with inside runs and then what Son did to us when attacking the box. It’s really poor all around and should be bread and butter to defend against.
IMO and an unpopular one, KM has been poor too often this season and should start coming under the microscope at this level soon because, as the article states, for £140m investment, there needs to be a better return.
United is a must win tomorrow. If Wolves win tonight, we’re 8 adrift and for all the noise about “we are where we should be”, we won’t be if results go against us. At least, please, try and keep a clean sheet at Old Trafford! |
Defending against Son and de Bruyne should be bread and butter? Glad someone has finally chipped in with a dose of realism. |  |
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| 'Appalling' season on 07:48 - Feb 25 with 4803 views | SaffronWaldenBlues |
| 'Appalling' season on 06:24 - Feb 25 by Blue_Heath |
I posted something along a similar vein but not so damning a weeks back and people didn't like it.
Can someone tell me a worse season please because there is now way of dressing it up, it's been horrible. |
1994/95 (although we may finish with fewer points this season)
2001/02
2009/10
2010/11
2011/12
2012/13
2016/17
2018/19
2019/20
2020/21
2021/22
All come to mind. |  |
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| 'Appalling' season on 07:53 - Feb 25 with 4765 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| 'Appalling' season on 07:42 - Feb 25 by Herbivore |
Defending against Son and de Bruyne should be bread and butter? Glad someone has finally chipped in with a dose of realism. |
I'd copied that bit ready to comment on it, but you got there before me. Honestly, we don't 'alf have some clueless whatnots on here don't we? Two of the best attackers in world football "should be bread and butter to defend against". And not just for experienced, established Prem defenders, but our lot!
Where/what/how do people thinking up this nonsense?! I'm fascinated by how some of the minds work on TWTD. | |
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| 'Appalling' season on 07:57 - Feb 25 with 4698 views | Herbivore |
| 'Appalling' season on 07:53 - Feb 25 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I'd copied that bit ready to comment on it, but you got there before me. Honestly, we don't 'alf have some clueless whatnots on here don't we? Two of the best attackers in world football "should be bread and butter to defend against". And not just for experienced, established Prem defenders, but our lot!
Where/what/how do people thinking up this nonsense?! I'm fascinated by how some of the minds work on TWTD. |
The poster in question thought Paul Cook was the messiah and that Mullet and Badger had killed the club by forcing him out. Says it all really. | |
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| 'Appalling' season on 08:04 - Feb 25 with 4632 views | Churchman |
| 'Appalling' season on 07:53 - Feb 25 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I'd copied that bit ready to comment on it, but you got there before me. Honestly, we don't 'alf have some clueless whatnots on here don't we? Two of the best attackers in world football "should be bread and butter to defend against". And not just for experienced, established Prem defenders, but our lot!
Where/what/how do people thinking up this nonsense?! I'm fascinated by how some of the minds work on TWTD. |
With you on this Flash - too many good responses to add much. As for how some of the people on here, hate, misery and criticism seems to be was switches them on. No balance, nothing positive.
Worse seasons: 2009 - 2021 bar 2014/15, 2001/2, 94/95, the Duncan years and many more. |  | | |
| 'Appalling' season on 08:04 - Feb 25 with 4637 views | Yppswyche |
| 'Appalling' season on 07:48 - Feb 25 by SaffronWaldenBlues |
1994/95 (although we may finish with fewer points this season)
2001/02
2009/10
2010/11
2011/12
2012/13
2016/17
2018/19
2019/20
2020/21
2021/22
All come to mind. |
Agreed that all of these seasons were worse. The wider context needs to be taken into account inn regards to this current one. Football isn’t one long upward trajectory, fans want the moon on a stick these days. The vibes around the club are the best they’ve been for decades |  | | |
| 'Appalling' season on 08:05 - Feb 25 with 4637 views | mistert |
Whatever that article says we've still spent less on our squad than every other team in the league and Wolves squad cost well over double what ours did. No, it's not been the great season we hoped it would be and we seem to be getting less competitive as the season goes on but it's no surprise we are where we are. The season isn't a failure, it's just reaching a logical conclusion. |  | | |
| 'Appalling' season on 08:31 - Feb 25 with 4443 views | NthQldITFC |
| 'Appalling' season on 06:24 - Feb 25 by Blue_Heath |
I posted something along a similar vein but not so damning a weeks back and people didn't like it.
Can someone tell me a worse season please because there is now way of dressing it up, it's been horrible. |
Pick one of the last 20 seasons and you'll have at least an 80% chance of it being worse than this one. Exclude the last two from that and maybe 14/15 and you're to an agenda-busting near certainty. |  |
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| 'Appalling' season on 08:39 - Feb 25 with 4408 views | ibbleobble |
| 'Appalling' season on 08:04 - Feb 25 by Churchman |
With you on this Flash - too many good responses to add much. As for how some of the people on here, hate, misery and criticism seems to be was switches them on. No balance, nothing positive.
Worse seasons: 2009 - 2021 bar 2014/15, 2001/2, 94/95, the Duncan years and many more. |
We’re talking about objective criticism and what a £140m investment has yielded. Why do you feel the need to turn it into a personal attack about people being negative? It’s an objective view not a witch hunt.
A lot of demographic on this forum have never played sport to any level, have never achieved much professionally in business and sit on the General thread moaning about life choices. It’s OK to love McKenna and have a negative point of view on things he’s done at the same time. It’s sport. It’s business. It’s not been a good season. With 3-wins and our ppg is going in the wrong direction. How can anyone argue differently at this stage? It’s f course that can change but we’re praying it will rather than seeing signs that it’s on an upward trajectory aka Everton and Wolves. | | | |
| 'Appalling' season on 08:48 - Feb 25 with 4337 views | ibbleobble |
| 'Appalling' season on 07:53 - Feb 25 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I'd copied that bit ready to comment on it, but you got there before me. Honestly, we don't 'alf have some clueless whatnots on here don't we? Two of the best attackers in world football "should be bread and butter to defend against". And not just for experienced, established Prem defenders, but our lot!
Where/what/how do people thinking up this nonsense?! I'm fascinated by how some of the minds work on TWTD. |
You missed the point as you do constantly. It’s not that it’s their ability it’s that there’s a repeated pattern to work out how to mitigate and we failed which is why questions need to be asked. How about the fact we had 5 defenders around Foden and he has a tap in the 6-yard box? Is that because he’s world class? Wake up.
If it were up to a bunch of folk I. Here who dare not rock the boat, Muric would still be in goal. | | | |
| 'Appalling' season on 08:48 - Feb 25 with 4337 views | homer_123 |
| 'Appalling' season on 08:39 - Feb 25 by ibbleobble |
We’re talking about objective criticism and what a £140m investment has yielded. Why do you feel the need to turn it into a personal attack about people being negative? It’s an objective view not a witch hunt.
A lot of demographic on this forum have never played sport to any level, have never achieved much professionally in business and sit on the General thread moaning about life choices. It’s OK to love McKenna and have a negative point of view on things he’s done at the same time. It’s sport. It’s business. It’s not been a good season. With 3-wins and our ppg is going in the wrong direction. How can anyone argue differently at this stage? It’s f course that can change but we’re praying it will rather than seeing signs that it’s on an upward trajectory aka Everton and Wolves. |
" It’s an objective view..."
It's patently not though - as within your OP you state defending against the likes of De Bruyne and Son should be bread and butter - those two views don't chime fella.
If we 'objectively' look at the Spurs game and Son, for example. We absolutely could and should have defended better both individually and collectively. However, the flip of this also is that Son is a world class player and our defenders are simply not at that level - so, as good as we can be individually and collectively, we have to accept that De Bruyne, Son, Salah etc. will cause us problems.
That's the objective view - not to state that defending against world class players should be bread and butter for a team that's only spent £140m on it's entire team since back to back promotions. | |
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| 'Appalling' season on 08:48 - Feb 25 with 4328 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| 'Appalling' season on 08:39 - Feb 25 by ibbleobble |
We’re talking about objective criticism and what a £140m investment has yielded. Why do you feel the need to turn it into a personal attack about people being negative? It’s an objective view not a witch hunt.
A lot of demographic on this forum have never played sport to any level, have never achieved much professionally in business and sit on the General thread moaning about life choices. It’s OK to love McKenna and have a negative point of view on things he’s done at the same time. It’s sport. It’s business. It’s not been a good season. With 3-wins and our ppg is going in the wrong direction. How can anyone argue differently at this stage? It’s f course that can change but we’re praying it will rather than seeing signs that it’s on an upward trajectory aka Everton and Wolves. |
Context. | |
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| 'Appalling' season on 08:51 - Feb 25 with 4301 views | Herbivore |
| 'Appalling' season on 08:39 - Feb 25 by ibbleobble |
We’re talking about objective criticism and what a £140m investment has yielded. Why do you feel the need to turn it into a personal attack about people being negative? It’s an objective view not a witch hunt.
A lot of demographic on this forum have never played sport to any level, have never achieved much professionally in business and sit on the General thread moaning about life choices. It’s OK to love McKenna and have a negative point of view on things he’s done at the same time. It’s sport. It’s business. It’s not been a good season. With 3-wins and our ppg is going in the wrong direction. How can anyone argue differently at this stage? It’s f course that can change but we’re praying it will rather than seeing signs that it’s on an upward trajectory aka Everton and Wolves. |
Lolz. Cry more. | |
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| 'Appalling' season on 08:51 - Feb 25 with 4310 views | ibbleobble |
| 'Appalling' season on 07:42 - Feb 25 by Herbivore |
Defending against Son and de Bruyne should be bread and butter? Glad someone has finally chipped in with a dose of realism. |
Can’t believe you’re actually back on here and that’s the best you could do. Probs best you leave again, it’ll save your sanity.
Son and De Bruyne are at the end of their careers. They are having poor seasons and have played the same way all their careers. To afford them the time and space we did, especially Son is poor. Arguing any different is naive. It’s OK to criticise. It’s what KM and the whole back staff do every week when they debrief on games. It’s professional sport. | | | |
| 'Appalling' season on 08:54 - Feb 25 with 4269 views | ibbleobble |
| 'Appalling' season on 08:51 - Feb 25 by Herbivore |
Lolz. Cry more. |
😂 - you took a break from here and now you’re back with the same litter. Healthy mate. | | | |
| 'Appalling' season on 09:00 - Feb 25 with 4218 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| 'Appalling' season on 08:48 - Feb 25 by ibbleobble |
You missed the point as you do constantly. It’s not that it’s their ability it’s that there’s a repeated pattern to work out how to mitigate and we failed which is why questions need to be asked. How about the fact we had 5 defenders around Foden and he has a tap in the 6-yard box? Is that because he’s world class? Wake up.
If it were up to a bunch of folk I. Here who dare not rock the boat, Muric would still be in goal. |
I wasn't discussing what Foden or Muric have done. I haven't missed any point. I (as well as Herbs) were directly responding to your comment, "Look at what De Bruyne did to us with inside runs and then what Son did to us when attacking the box... (It) should be bread and butter to defend against."
You can't simply remove their world class ability and then assert that it should be bread and butter to defend against... | |
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| 'Appalling' season on 09:01 - Feb 25 with 4200 views | Churchman |
| 'Appalling' season on 08:39 - Feb 25 by ibbleobble |
We’re talking about objective criticism and what a £140m investment has yielded. Why do you feel the need to turn it into a personal attack about people being negative? It’s an objective view not a witch hunt.
A lot of demographic on this forum have never played sport to any level, have never achieved much professionally in business and sit on the General thread moaning about life choices. It’s OK to love McKenna and have a negative point of view on things he’s done at the same time. It’s sport. It’s business. It’s not been a good season. With 3-wins and our ppg is going in the wrong direction. How can anyone argue differently at this stage? It’s f course that can change but we’re praying it will rather than seeing signs that it’s on an upward trajectory aka Everton and Wolves. |
I didn’t name anybody specifically. So it’s not personal is it. But if the cap fits, wear it.
There are plenty on here who have enjoyed our struggles. It was the same when we lost the odd game in the last two seasons, multiplied by several new contributors enjoying piling in. Nothing positive, just relentless moan ups. Sad really.
No it’s not been a good season. Obviously. Not one person on here has said it has been. But there’s a difference between ‘not a good season’ and worst season ever. There’s a difference between balance and focussing on relentless negativity. There’s also difference between taking a sum that’s been spent on players, looking at context, objective, success and disappointment, alternatives etc and just using that figure to beat the club over the head with. The former is balance, the latter is not, in my view.
I’m really not sure what level of sport people have played at, business or life achievement has to do with anything. Some of the posts on here give clues to what people do in their lives or have done, that’s about it. Who cares? Whether you’ve been a massive success, an high achiever, brilliant at everything or otherwise is completely irrelevant to this thread and most conversations. | | | |
| 'Appalling' season on 09:02 - Feb 25 with 4188 views | itfcsuth |
Disappointing yes, but appalling is extremely over the top.
We have done some good, and some I am sure we'd have hoped to have to done better.
Lessons learnt and hopefully this is a dress rehearsal to become a top 10 established PL club in the future years to come. [Post edited 25 Feb 9:21]
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