| If there was a strategy to get Reform elected.... 07:57 - Mar 27 with 4444 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
....I think Labour might have found it. Not that Reform will have any solutions but at least they get to have a go.
Edit.... On the "too big to fail, too small to succeed" spectrum I think we all know where we stand. [Post edited 27 Mar 8:00]
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| If there was a strategy to get Reform elected.... on 08:43 - Mar 27 with 2894 views | jontysnut |
Someone else said the problem with Labour trying to copy Reform is that people will opt for the original. |  | | |
| If there was a strategy to get Reform elected.... on 10:36 - Mar 27 with 2775 views | peterleeblue |
Reform will be next.
By and large people are easily swayed and will continue to pursue the "It cant get any worse" mantra.
At that point we will realise just how bad it can get. We will become Trump lite or probably Farage will be Vance's glove puppet.
Seriously worrying times. |  | | |
| If there was a strategy to get Reform elected.... on 10:38 - Mar 27 with 2770 views | giant_stow |
"...but at least they get to have a go."
Really? |  |
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| If there was a strategy to get Reform elected.... on 10:40 - Mar 27 with 2761 views | DJR |
If Margaret Thatcher* wins on Thursday, I warn you not to be ordinary.
I warn you not to be young. I warn you not to fall ill. And I warn you not to grow old.
(Copyright Neil Kinnock)
*At the last election, this could have been Starmer, Sunak or Farage. |  | | |
| If there was a strategy to get Reform elected.... on 10:43 - Mar 27 with 2735 views | Ftnfwest |
Not a chance they ever get elected, would need i suspect 60% of the popular vote or something to overcome the FPTP system |  | | |
| If there was a strategy to get Reform elected.... on 15:31 - Mar 27 with 2554 views | Basuco |
If 60% of the Country turn into far right racists and vote for a party with one policy, i.e. deport everyone who does not have white skin, we really will be in trouble. |  | | |
| If there was a strategy to get Reform elected.... on 15:48 - Mar 27 with 2515 views | Churchman |
They’ll never get in. Just won’t happen.
But then I said Remain would win the 2016 Referendum disaster….oh |  | | |
| If there was a strategy to get Reform elected.... on 16:15 - Mar 27 with 2465 views | flykickingbybgunn |
| If there was a strategy to get Reform elected.... on 15:31 - Mar 27 by Basuco |
If 60% of the Country turn into far right racists and vote for a party with one policy, i.e. deport everyone who does not have white skin, we really will be in trouble. |
Have you ever read the reform manifesto ?
It must be no or you would not spout such drivel.
All partys have differences. All want to improve the lot of the people as they see them.
The Labour party want to improve the lot of the common people but dont understand how business works.
The Consevatives push business and argue that creating more money supply helps everbody
The Liberals just want to hug us all
The Greens dont give a monkeys about anything except climate change.
Reform want to slow down immigration (especially illegal immigration). That is not racist. That is they dont want any more freeloading criminals on boats.
All of them say they want to deregulate. But Labour, Liberals and Greens dont. The Conservatives sit on the fence.
This is all facinating. And then Trump throws in a curve ball or two.
It's not boring is it ? [Post edited 27 Mar 16:16]
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| If there was a strategy to get Reform elected.... on 16:21 - Mar 27 with 2443 views | NthQldITFC |
| If there was a strategy to get Reform elected.... on 16:15 - Mar 27 by flykickingbybgunn |
Have you ever read the reform manifesto ?
It must be no or you would not spout such drivel.
All partys have differences. All want to improve the lot of the people as they see them.
The Labour party want to improve the lot of the common people but dont understand how business works.
The Consevatives push business and argue that creating more money supply helps everbody
The Liberals just want to hug us all
The Greens dont give a monkeys about anything except climate change.
Reform want to slow down immigration (especially illegal immigration). That is not racist. That is they dont want any more freeloading criminals on boats.
All of them say they want to deregulate. But Labour, Liberals and Greens dont. The Conservatives sit on the fence.
This is all facinating. And then Trump throws in a curve ball or two.
It's not boring is it ? [Post edited 27 Mar 16:16]
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I'm sure much better brains than mine will be along to help, but my first observation would be that the Greens give too much of a monkey's about things other than climate change. |  |
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| If there was a strategy to get Reform elected.... on 16:21 - Mar 27 with 2443 views | MattinLondon |
| If there was a strategy to get Reform elected.... on 16:15 - Mar 27 by flykickingbybgunn |
Have you ever read the reform manifesto ?
It must be no or you would not spout such drivel.
All partys have differences. All want to improve the lot of the people as they see them.
The Labour party want to improve the lot of the common people but dont understand how business works.
The Consevatives push business and argue that creating more money supply helps everbody
The Liberals just want to hug us all
The Greens dont give a monkeys about anything except climate change.
Reform want to slow down immigration (especially illegal immigration). That is not racist. That is they dont want any more freeloading criminals on boats.
All of them say they want to deregulate. But Labour, Liberals and Greens dont. The Conservatives sit on the fence.
This is all facinating. And then Trump throws in a curve ball or two.
It's not boring is it ? [Post edited 27 Mar 16:16]
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Unfortunately for Farage, he is viewed as Trump fanboy by quite a lot of the electorate - possibly not by his supporters but certainly by most people who don’t feel loyal to one party.
And the more looney tune Trump goes, the more it might reflect badly on Reform. |  | | |
| If there was a strategy to get Reform elected.... on 16:36 - Mar 27 with 2411 views | Blueschev |
| If there was a strategy to get Reform elected.... on 16:15 - Mar 27 by flykickingbybgunn |
Have you ever read the reform manifesto ?
It must be no or you would not spout such drivel.
All partys have differences. All want to improve the lot of the people as they see them.
The Labour party want to improve the lot of the common people but dont understand how business works.
The Consevatives push business and argue that creating more money supply helps everbody
The Liberals just want to hug us all
The Greens dont give a monkeys about anything except climate change.
Reform want to slow down immigration (especially illegal immigration). That is not racist. That is they dont want any more freeloading criminals on boats.
All of them say they want to deregulate. But Labour, Liberals and Greens dont. The Conservatives sit on the fence.
This is all facinating. And then Trump throws in a curve ball or two.
It's not boring is it ? [Post edited 27 Mar 16:16]
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You sound to me as though you've never read any Party's manifesto. |  | | |
| If there was a strategy to get Reform elected.... on 16:38 - Mar 27 with 2396 views | Blueschev |
| If there was a strategy to get Reform elected.... on 08:43 - Mar 27 by jontysnut |
Someone else said the problem with Labour trying to copy Reform is that people will opt for the original. |
What Labour repeatedly fails to grasp is that shifting further rightward doesn't take votes from their opponents, it merely cedes the narrative to them. | | | |
| If there was a strategy to get Reform elected.... on 17:55 - Mar 27 with 2300 views | NthQldITFC |
| If there was a strategy to get Reform elected.... on 16:38 - Mar 27 by Blueschev |
What Labour repeatedly fails to grasp is that shifting further rightward doesn't take votes from their opponents, it merely cedes the narrative to them. |
Beautifully put, sir. | |
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| If there was a strategy to get Reform elected.... on 18:01 - Mar 27 with 2289 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| If there was a strategy to get Reform elected.... on 10:36 - Mar 27 by peterleeblue |
Reform will be next.
By and large people are easily swayed and will continue to pursue the "It cant get any worse" mantra.
At that point we will realise just how bad it can get. We will become Trump lite or probably Farage will be Vance's glove puppet.
Seriously worrying times. |
We do tend to follow America but I hope we might see how badly that plays out and steer clear of it this time. By the time of the next General Election, Trump should only have a year left (if he survives that long). [Post edited 27 Mar 18:01]
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| If there was a strategy to get Reform elected.... on 18:42 - Mar 27 with 2239 views | MattinLondon |
| If there was a strategy to get Reform elected.... on 18:01 - Mar 27 by Nthsuffolkblue |
We do tend to follow America but I hope we might see how badly that plays out and steer clear of it this time. By the time of the next General Election, Trump should only have a year left (if he survives that long). [Post edited 27 Mar 18:01]
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Nah, it’s the other way round. Next USA election is Nov 2028.
Next UK has to take place by Wednesday 15 August 2029 | | | |
| If there was a strategy to get Reform elected.... on 18:44 - Mar 27 with 2237 views | JammyDodgerrr |
Four years until it matters. They'll have fallen apart long before then. |  |
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| If there was a strategy to get Reform elected.... on 19:00 - Mar 27 with 2201 views | flykickingbybgunn |
| If there was a strategy to get Reform elected.... on 16:36 - Mar 27 by Blueschev |
You sound to me as though you've never read any Party's manifesto. |
Oh contrare.
Read the manifesto and then watch how their actions change given the changes of circumstance and make your decision based on all the facts.
This is a non party political announcement on behalf of the Kicking Party. | | | |
| If there was a strategy to get Reform elected.... on 20:23 - Mar 27 with 2091 views | vapour_trail |
| If there was a strategy to get Reform elected.... on 19:00 - Mar 27 by flykickingbybgunn |
Oh contrare.
Read the manifesto and then watch how their actions change given the changes of circumstance and make your decision based on all the facts.
This is a non party political announcement on behalf of the Kicking Party. |
I think what’s being suggested is that your summary of the other parties may be lacking significant insight.
However, I do think your wronguns stand a very good chance next time around. |  |
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| If there was a strategy to get Reform elected.... on 21:07 - Mar 27 with 2012 views | StokieBlue |
| If there was a strategy to get Reform elected.... on 16:15 - Mar 27 by flykickingbybgunn |
Have you ever read the reform manifesto ?
It must be no or you would not spout such drivel.
All partys have differences. All want to improve the lot of the people as they see them.
The Labour party want to improve the lot of the common people but dont understand how business works.
The Consevatives push business and argue that creating more money supply helps everbody
The Liberals just want to hug us all
The Greens dont give a monkeys about anything except climate change.
Reform want to slow down immigration (especially illegal immigration). That is not racist. That is they dont want any more freeloading criminals on boats.
All of them say they want to deregulate. But Labour, Liberals and Greens dont. The Conservatives sit on the fence.
This is all facinating. And then Trump throws in a curve ball or two.
It's not boring is it ? [Post edited 27 Mar 16:16]
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A hugely simplistic and narrative driven take.
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| If there was a strategy to get Reform elected.... on 21:35 - Mar 27 with 1958 views | reusersfreekicks |
| If there was a strategy to get Reform elected.... on 16:15 - Mar 27 by flykickingbybgunn |
Have you ever read the reform manifesto ?
It must be no or you would not spout such drivel.
All partys have differences. All want to improve the lot of the people as they see them.
The Labour party want to improve the lot of the common people but dont understand how business works.
The Consevatives push business and argue that creating more money supply helps everbody
The Liberals just want to hug us all
The Greens dont give a monkeys about anything except climate change.
Reform want to slow down immigration (especially illegal immigration). That is not racist. That is they dont want any more freeloading criminals on boats.
All of them say they want to deregulate. But Labour, Liberals and Greens dont. The Conservatives sit on the fence.
This is all facinating. And then Trump throws in a curve ball or two.
It's not boring is it ? [Post edited 27 Mar 16:16]
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Freeloading criminals on boats.
You and Reform look like a good match |  | | |
| If there was a strategy to get Reform elected.... on 22:17 - Mar 27 with 1889 views | bluejacko |
| If there was a strategy to get Reform elected.... on 21:35 - Mar 27 by reusersfreekicks |
Freeloading criminals on boats.
You and Reform look like a good match |
Doesn’t look good though does i?
38,000 in hotels at the moment,
£5.5m a day for this,
£2.8b a year,
On those figures it costs you and me £144.73 a day for each one of those in hotels and that is just the accommodation costs!
And more arriving all the time,so much for smashing the gangs! |  | | |
| If there was a strategy to get Reform elected.... on 22:39 - Mar 27 with 1858 views | Lord_Lucan |
| If there was a strategy to get Reform elected.... on 16:21 - Mar 27 by NthQldITFC |
I'm sure much better brains than mine will be along to help, but my first observation would be that the Greens give too much of a monkey's about things other than climate change. |
I've replied to you on this rather than anyone else as you, like me, are elderly and we have seen it all.
I'm not into all this angry stuff but equally I get frustrated by the gals and guys who just float around in a cloud.
This uncontrolled immigration situation is absolutely insane - financially and stability wise.
I massively welcome immigration but it needs to be targeted or at least authorised.
1000's of unchecked people just rolling up is absolutely not the way to go.
Unchecked immigration is crucifying European countries - It's so frustrating that people are afraid to voice their opinions for the fear of being called racist.
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| If there was a strategy to get Reform elected.... on 23:44 - Mar 27 with 1763 views | Bigalhunter |
| If there was a strategy to get Reform elected.... on 19:00 - Mar 27 by flykickingbybgunn |
Oh contrare.
Read the manifesto and then watch how their actions change given the changes of circumstance and make your decision based on all the facts.
This is a non party political announcement on behalf of the Kicking Party. |
Au contraire. |  |
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| If there was a strategy to get Reform elected.... on 05:07 - Mar 28 with 1660 views | Benters |
| If there was a strategy to get Reform elected.... on 16:21 - Mar 27 by MattinLondon |
Unfortunately for Farage, he is viewed as Trump fanboy by quite a lot of the electorate - possibly not by his supporters but certainly by most people who don’t feel loyal to one party.
And the more looney tune Trump goes, the more it might reflect badly on Reform. |
One of the reasons I like Farage. |  |
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| If there was a strategy to get Reform elected.... on 05:09 - Mar 28 with 1655 views | Benters |
| If there was a strategy to get Reform elected.... on 20:23 - Mar 27 by vapour_trail |
I think what’s being suggested is that your summary of the other parties may be lacking significant insight.
However, I do think your wronguns stand a very good chance next time around. |
Fingers crossed. | |
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