| £500 a year better off a year 08:22 - Mar 27 with 7414 views | onceablue |
Under Labour.
Who the hell is she referring to.
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| £500 a year better off a year on 17:09 - Mar 27 with 1837 views | Vaughan8 |
I don't know where the £500 comes from, But its utter nonsense as you would automatically assume. (sorry just read its from 2029.....great!)
I have a client at work, that due to the mimimum wage hike as well as the changes in NI thresholds/Employers NI rate, their payroll costs is going up 10%.
They aren't even classed as a medium company and they produce things 99% of us would have.
What do we think is going to happen? They're just going to take a 10% hit? I don't think so. They'll sell to the customers 10%+ more and that'll be passed onto us.
So yes maybe "taxwise" people may be better off, you won't be overall just to the tax changes to other things (i.e. businesses).
Has anything else been factored in for the £500 rise like inflation etc, or is it purely on money now? | | | |
| £500 a year better off a year on 18:00 - Mar 27 with 1778 views | bluejacko |
| £500 a year better off a year on 16:38 - Mar 27 by BlueBadger |
Perhaps they could cancel their Sky and buy a few less werther's original and stop going to bingo if they're feeling the pinch? |
Oh I wish I was going to be here when you lot get to sample the delights of retirement and listening to others telling you not to moan and what you can spend what money you have on😂 | | | |
| £500 a year better off a year on 18:26 - Mar 27 with 1770 views | NedPlimpton |
| £500 a year better off a year on 18:00 - Mar 27 by bluejacko |
Oh I wish I was going to be here when you lot get to sample the delights of retirement and listening to others telling you not to moan and what you can spend what money you have on😂 |
Yeah, because younger people are never criticised for their spending |  | | |
| £500 a year better off a year on 18:42 - Mar 27 with 1741 views | Dubtractor |
| £500 a year better off a year on 18:00 - Mar 27 by bluejacko |
Oh I wish I was going to be here when you lot get to sample the delights of retirement and listening to others telling you not to moan and what you can spend what money you have on😂 |
I think the joke may have gone over your head somewhat. |  |
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| £500 a year better off a year on 12:39 - Mar 28 with 1620 views | OldFart71 |
| £500 a year better off a year on 16:38 - Mar 27 by BlueBadger |
Perhaps they could cancel their Sky and buy a few less werther's original and stop going to bingo if they're feeling the pinch? |
Don't get me wrong but I know of people on benefits who have more disposable income than some pensioners. No, that doesn't mean all benefits receivers or all pensioners. I don't see why either should not have some form of outlet from daily life. | | | |
| £500 a year better off a year on 13:22 - Mar 28 with 1578 views | jonbull88 |
| £500 a year better off a year on 11:26 - Mar 27 by NedPlimpton |
You absolutely can have Sky TV, if you can afford it
But if you're so hard up and need the winter fuel allowance, then you should probably prioritise heating your house first before buying an expensive tv subscription
I would very much imagine that's the sort of thing you would say to someone on universal credit who has a sky tv subscription. Or am I wrong? [Post edited 27 Mar 11:30]
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Where do you stop? Block all oaps from going to bingo? Or going out for a meal with family? We could all find ways of saving everyone else £50/month. With sky im young and in a position to “afford” it, however 1 meal out with my family a month can cost more than my subscription, so yes bring means testing for fuel allowance, but please don’t dictate what others spend their money on if they were receiving it. | | | |
| £500 a year better off a year on 13:33 - Mar 28 with 1551 views | NedPlimpton |
| £500 a year better off a year on 13:22 - Mar 28 by jonbull88 |
Where do you stop? Block all oaps from going to bingo? Or going out for a meal with family? We could all find ways of saving everyone else £50/month. With sky im young and in a position to “afford” it, however 1 meal out with my family a month can cost more than my subscription, so yes bring means testing for fuel allowance, but please don’t dictate what others spend their money on if they were receiving it. |
What do you mean "where do you stop"? No one has said anything about dictating spend for older people? And if they have then it's clearly tongue in cheek like the Werther's Original comment | | | |
| £500 a year better off a year on 13:40 - Mar 28 with 1523 views | jonbull88 |
| £500 a year better off a year on 13:33 - Mar 28 by NedPlimpton |
What do you mean "where do you stop"? No one has said anything about dictating spend for older people? And if they have then it's clearly tongue in cheek like the Werther's Original comment |
Going off your “if you can afford it”. I mean if they cancelled it, but then spent more on a meal out how would people feel about it that way. | | | |
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| £500 a year better off a year on 13:51 - Mar 28 with 1503 views | NedPlimpton |
| £500 a year better off a year on 13:40 - Mar 28 by jonbull88 |
Going off your “if you can afford it”. I mean if they cancelled it, but then spent more on a meal out how would people feel about it that way. |
How someone feels about something is very different to dictating what someone can or can't do with their money
I'm not really sure what you're asking, and how we've got here? People are free to spend money on whatever they choose. If they are in receipt of a taxpayer funded benefit then I hope they make sensible decisions with that money and don't just see it as a given that they have a right to it because of their age (or any other factor) | | | |
| £500 a year better off a year on 14:11 - Mar 28 with 1469 views | jonbull88 |
| £500 a year better off a year on 13:51 - Mar 28 by NedPlimpton |
How someone feels about something is very different to dictating what someone can or can't do with their money
I'm not really sure what you're asking, and how we've got here? People are free to spend money on whatever they choose. If they are in receipt of a taxpayer funded benefit then I hope they make sensible decisions with that money and don't just see it as a given that they have a right to it because of their age (or any other factor) |
My point was what people do and don’t spend their money on is up to them. If they’ve been able to claim winter fuel allowance and that’s in their figures that’s up to them. It could be means tested but i said where do you stop because where do you? Because 1 persons sky package could be taking the family out for a meal once a month or going to the pub 3 nights a week or going on a saga holiday. | | | |
| £500 a year better off a year on 14:42 - Mar 28 with 1439 views | NedPlimpton |
| £500 a year better off a year on 14:11 - Mar 28 by jonbull88 |
My point was what people do and don’t spend their money on is up to them. If they’ve been able to claim winter fuel allowance and that’s in their figures that’s up to them. It could be means tested but i said where do you stop because where do you? Because 1 persons sky package could be taking the family out for a meal once a month or going to the pub 3 nights a week or going on a saga holiday. |
Entirely agree it's up to them. But if you're posting it on a public forum in the context of a critique of the current govt, then don't be surprised to see some scrutiny. Especially as someone has said they're not hard up, but is bemoaning the loss of the winter fuel allowance | | | |
| £500 a year better off a year on 15:24 - Mar 28 with 1389 views | backwaywhen |
| £500 a year better off a year on 13:39 - Mar 27 by StokieBlue |
Why are you mentioning me?
Why the weird "(Red)"?
All a bit childish really.
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Because your the know all with all the answers ? | | | |
| £500 a year better off a year on 15:35 - Mar 28 with 1376 views | Herbivore |
| £500 a year better off a year on 15:24 - Mar 28 by backwaywhen |
Because your the know all with all the answers ? |
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| £500 a year better off a year on 22:15 - Mar 28 with 1279 views | StokieBlue |
| £500 a year better off a year on 15:24 - Mar 28 by backwaywhen |
Because your the know all with all the answers ? |
Which answers are those?
All I've done in this thread is point the trolling opening poster to where the quote came from so in this instance I actually did have the answer.
What an odious poster you are. Must be hard going through life feeling so inferior.
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| £500 a year better off a year on 04:46 - Mar 29 with 1179 views | Benters |
| £500 a year better off a year on 15:24 - Mar 28 by backwaywhen |
Because your the know all with all the answers ? |
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| £500 a year better off a year on 04:49 - Mar 29 with 1176 views | Benters |
| £500 a year better off a year on 15:35 - Mar 28 by Herbivore |
*you're |
I always getting muddled up with that.
Is it your cat is pretty.
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you’re cat is pretty. | |
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| £500 a year better off a year on 07:13 - Mar 29 with 1118 views | TractorWood |
| £500 a year better off a year on 13:19 - Mar 27 by Mullet |
No, obviously I’d allow maybe two years state pension then euthanise them all on principle. My mum and dad are milking it frankly and I want to sell the house before the property bubble in North Suffolk pops.
I actually think my generation will not have a state pension and there will be a move to means tested UC type payments. That seems to be the way capitalism is moving, and this country seems to be moving away from social provision practically and ideologically.
The winter fuel debate and free tv license debate before that highlighted how for some reason benefits are seen as entitlements for pensioners by a lot of people. Which makes debates like this incredibly hard. If people could accept a line where pensioners are eligible to pay or not pay for these things it’d be much easier.
Again though if people had the appetite for the “wealth tax” / going after corporations and offshore banking / dismantling the royal family and peerage systems which would make us all so much better off, we’d not be discussing this. |
I'd love to see a Republic, despite loving the history of our Kings and Queens.
That said the initial benefit (which would be mostly hugh maintenance assets) and annual saving in the context of our economy is trivial. It would be less than and £1bn and as an example the NHS alone costs £200bn.
Properly taxing US tech companies would actually make sense but Starmer seems to want to reduce this given our need to appease the orange homumculus. |  |
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| £500 a year better off a year on 07:57 - Mar 29 with 1085 views | Herbivore |
| £500 a year better off a year on 04:49 - Mar 29 by Benters |
I always getting muddled up with that.
Is it your cat is pretty.
Or
you’re cat is pretty. |
First one. Your relates to possession or belonging, you're is a contraction of you are. It wouldn't make sense to say "you are cat is pretty" [Post edited 29 Mar 8:27]
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| £500 a year better off a year on 08:42 - Mar 29 with 1039 views | BlueForYou |
Not everyone who "has Sky", has Sky TV. You might only have Sky Broadband with a fixed phone line. I'd say that's rather essential in today's world. The levels some of you go to defend Labour are something else! |  | | |
| £500 a year better off a year on 08:56 - Mar 29 with 1013 views | Mullet |
| £500 a year better off a year on 07:13 - Mar 29 by TractorWood |
I'd love to see a Republic, despite loving the history of our Kings and Queens.
That said the initial benefit (which would be mostly hugh maintenance assets) and annual saving in the context of our economy is trivial. It would be less than and £1bn and as an example the NHS alone costs £200bn.
Properly taxing US tech companies would actually make sense but Starmer seems to want to reduce this given our need to appease the orange homumculus. |
I agree, but it is as much the principle vs principal - the cost per year is significant, but also the assets and control of income which they keep accumulating year on year. When we are talking about housing, dismantling the biggest land barons and their hangers on makes sense to me.
It's been rather funny watching the far right suddenly find their Christianity this year to attack Charles. A good demonstration of the ignorance and ideology mentioned.
As for the Americans, it's a bit like I said the other day. Trump winning changes everything. You can't bank on anything he and his little cult will do, except attack and demand. The exchanges with Greenland and the Sky news reporter with that blonde neanderthal looking woman showed that.
They could literally turn around and demand anything, do anything without forethought. Economically that means tarriffs it seems. |  |
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| £500 a year better off a year on 08:57 - Mar 29 with 1004 views | Mullet |
| £500 a year better off a year on 08:42 - Mar 29 by BlueForYou |
Not everyone who "has Sky", has Sky TV. You might only have Sky Broadband with a fixed phone line. I'd say that's rather essential in today's world. The levels some of you go to defend Labour are something else! |
The lengths you'll go to, to misinterpret the obvious to attack Labour.... | |
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| £500 a year better off a year on 10:44 - Mar 29 with 886 views | StokieBlue |
| £500 a year better off a year on 04:46 - Mar 29 by Benters |
😂✅ |
I'm amazed given your posting history that you're poking people.
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| £500 a year better off a year on 16:03 - Mar 29 with 788 views | Swansea_Blue |
| £500 a year better off a year on 08:42 - Mar 29 by BlueForYou |
Not everyone who "has Sky", has Sky TV. You might only have Sky Broadband with a fixed phone line. I'd say that's rather essential in today's world. The levels some of you go to defend Labour are something else! |
Pah! A luxury I tell ya. When I was growing up we were lucky to have one of these
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| £500 a year better off a year on 06:06 - Mar 30 with 675 views | Benters |
| £500 a year better off a year on 10:44 - Mar 29 by StokieBlue |
I'm amazed given your posting history that you're poking people.
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I’m not poking anyone I thought his reply was funny that’s all.
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| £500 a year better off a year on 06:08 - Mar 30 with 670 views | JackNorthStand |
Not pensioners who want to have their heatings on in winter, that’s for sure. | | | |
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