| Delap reported 40m clause... 08:16 - Apr 6 with 7503 views | ITFCBlues |
If that is the case, that'd be hugely disappointing. We'd have sold ourselves at least 10m short.
Hopefully that's not the case with MA comments suggesting we're well protected although I'd say that a sale of 40m hasn't protected us well at all! |  |
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| Delap reported 40m clause... on 10:13 - Apr 6 with 995 views | Herbivore |
| Delap reported 40m clause... on 10:09 - Apr 6 by SuffolkPunchFC |
Aside from the 40m being pure speculation from a less than credible source, why would bidding stop at the release clause figure? If many clubs are seriously interested, it can turn into an auction. A club that really wants a player isn't going to lose out on them by refusing to offer more, if they place a higher value on them. [Post edited 6 Apr 10:10]
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But if he has a release clause we have to accept any offer that meets that clause, so no club is going to pay £50m when he has a £40m release clause. That extra £10m will be used to try and lure Delap with a fat contract and/or signing on fee. We won't see a penny over £40m IF it is true that he has a £40m release clause if we're relegated. |  |
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| Delap reported 40m clause... on 10:25 - Apr 6 with 958 views | PrideOfTheEast |
| Delap reported 40m clause... on 10:04 - Apr 6 by bsw72 |
Yeah. Didn’t think that through. On 3rd cup of tea now, what a ridiculous statement from me  |
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| Delap reported 40m clause... on 10:30 - Apr 6 with 947 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Delap reported 40m clause... on 10:12 - Apr 6 by NeedhamChris |
If it's a £40m release clause then it doesn't matter if a club offers £40m or £100m, we'd still have to accept it. So there's literally no point in a club offering more.
Any money that they have spare will be used to make Delaps package more appealing, not ours. |
A release clause only obligates the player's club to begin negotiations at the initial fee. Terms still have to be agreed, but the club cannot stand in the way of the player leaving once any offer matches the release clause AND terms are agreed between the player and the clubs.
If 5 clubs are interested, as the selling club we are only obligated to sell - not who to sell to. Those 5 clubs are able to differentiate their offers in what they offer the player and the club. | | | |
| Delap reported 40m clause... on 10:36 - Apr 6 with 932 views | Herbivore |
| Delap reported 40m clause... on 10:30 - Apr 6 by SuffolkPunchFC |
A release clause only obligates the player's club to begin negotiations at the initial fee. Terms still have to be agreed, but the club cannot stand in the way of the player leaving once any offer matches the release clause AND terms are agreed between the player and the clubs.
If 5 clubs are interested, as the selling club we are only obligated to sell - not who to sell to. Those 5 clubs are able to differentiate their offers in what they offer the player and the club. |
Why would a club offer us more than £40m when we've already had to accept offers of £40m from other clubs? It's not a fee at which we have to start negotiations, it's a fee that we have to accept, otherwise there's no point in it as we can just claim we negotiated but couldn't agree a deal. We won't get a penny over the release clause if there is one. | |
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| Phew, that’s a relief…. on 10:39 - Apr 6 with 922 views | Bloots |
…£100 mill it is then.
Spend, spend, spend!!! |  |
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| Delap reported 40m clause... on 10:45 - Apr 6 with 916 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Delap reported 40m clause... on 10:36 - Apr 6 by Herbivore |
Why would a club offer us more than £40m when we've already had to accept offers of £40m from other clubs? It's not a fee at which we have to start negotiations, it's a fee that we have to accept, otherwise there's no point in it as we can just claim we negotiated but couldn't agree a deal. We won't get a penny over the release clause if there is one. |
No, we can't prevent the player leaving if the terms of the release are met, but we can decide who we sell to if there are multiple suitors.
In which case, why couldn't the amount above the release clause be a material element in choosing?
And since it's all speculation, there is often a lot of detail in a release clause that we will not be a aware of (if one even exists). Sometimes the release is tied to approaches from certain clubs only. Or whatever else was written into the original contract.
As with the oft discussed 'buy-back' clause, it's also speculation and much of it from sources that have limited credibility. | | | |
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| Delap reported 40m clause... on 10:48 - Apr 6 with 906 views | Herbivore |
| Delap reported 40m clause... on 10:45 - Apr 6 by SuffolkPunchFC |
No, we can't prevent the player leaving if the terms of the release are met, but we can decide who we sell to if there are multiple suitors.
In which case, why couldn't the amount above the release clause be a material element in choosing?
And since it's all speculation, there is often a lot of detail in a release clause that we will not be a aware of (if one even exists). Sometimes the release is tied to approaches from certain clubs only. Or whatever else was written into the original contract.
As with the oft discussed 'buy-back' clause, it's also speculation and much of it from sources that have limited credibility. |
The player will decide who they join if we receive multiple offers that meet the alleged relegation release clause, not us. It's not a case of club A bids £40m and club B bids £45m and we decide we'll sell to club B. Both offers would have to be accepted and Delap would then agree terms and decide who to join. We hold no cards and for that reason IF the clause exists it's not a starting point for a bidding war, it's the amount we're going to get from whichever club Delap chooses to join. | |
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| It was in the press last week…. on 10:50 - Apr 6 with 899 views | leitrimblue |
Just read it in the Sunday Sport this morning so that's confirmed it for me.
They also have the sad news that the hide and seek champ as been found dead in a cupboard |  | | |
| Delap reported 40m clause... on 10:53 - Apr 6 with 884 views | NthQldITFC |
| Delap reported 40m clause... on 08:39 - Apr 6 by ITFCBlues |
Then that'd have been poor business really. Paying 20m for a player with no PL experience and then having a sell on already agreed at 40m.
I hope it's just matching rights for City. |
So a 100% profit of £20million pounds in 1 year (plus wages, minus the value of 12 Premier League goals and the rest of his contributions on and off the pitch) is poor business?
Apologies if your post is sarcasm, which I can only imagine it might be. |  |
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| It was in the press last week…. on 10:55 - Apr 6 with 872 views | NthQldITFC |
| It was in the press last week…. on 10:50 - Apr 6 by leitrimblue |
Just read it in the Sunday Sport this morning so that's confirmed it for me.
They also have the sad news that the hide and seek champ as been found dead in a cupboard |
That's commitment. Eyes open or closed? | |
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| Delap reported 40m clause... on 10:56 - Apr 6 with 867 views | RadioOrwell |
| Delap reported 40m clause... on 10:48 - Apr 6 by Herbivore |
The player will decide who they join if we receive multiple offers that meet the alleged relegation release clause, not us. It's not a case of club A bids £40m and club B bids £45m and we decide we'll sell to club B. Both offers would have to be accepted and Delap would then agree terms and decide who to join. We hold no cards and for that reason IF the clause exists it's not a starting point for a bidding war, it's the amount we're going to get from whichever club Delap chooses to join. |
Sounds like if Delap wants club A and they offer 40m then that's it.
He doesn't have to join club B even if they offer 40m or 50m.
Either way £40m is enough to buy some very good players. (if we get all of it --- I've no idea) |  | | |
| It was in the press last week…. on 11:12 - Apr 6 with 814 views | leitrimblue |
| It was in the press last week…. on 10:55 - Apr 6 by NthQldITFC |
That's commitment. Eyes open or closed? |
Eyes closed, rolled up into a ball | | | |
| Delap reported 40m clause... on 11:22 - Apr 6 with 802 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Delap reported 40m clause... on 10:48 - Apr 6 by Herbivore |
The player will decide who they join if we receive multiple offers that meet the alleged relegation release clause, not us. It's not a case of club A bids £40m and club B bids £45m and we decide we'll sell to club B. Both offers would have to be accepted and Delap would then agree terms and decide who to join. We hold no cards and for that reason IF the clause exists it's not a starting point for a bidding war, it's the amount we're going to get from whichever club Delap chooses to join. |
You're being very naïve if you think that if Liverpool bid £45m and Arsenal £40m, that the player could force us to take the lower bid.
You might try to argue that the player has to agree personal terms, and they do, but I'd be very surprised if there isn't a 'negotiate in good faith' clause in there, that would prevent the player engineering one over another if the terms were similar.
Without the details of the contract and any linked terms, everything is pure speculation. | | | |
| It was in the press last week…. on 11:23 - Apr 6 with 798 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| It was in the press last week…. on 10:50 - Apr 6 by leitrimblue |
Just read it in the Sunday Sport this morning so that's confirmed it for me.
They also have the sad news that the hide and seek champ as been found dead in a cupboard |
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| Delap reported 40m clause... on 11:33 - Apr 6 with 764 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Delap reported 40m clause... on 10:48 - Apr 6 by Herbivore |
The player will decide who they join if we receive multiple offers that meet the alleged relegation release clause, not us. It's not a case of club A bids £40m and club B bids £45m and we decide we'll sell to club B. Both offers would have to be accepted and Delap would then agree terms and decide who to join. We hold no cards and for that reason IF the clause exists it's not a starting point for a bidding war, it's the amount we're going to get from whichever club Delap chooses to join. |
Real World example - Jude Bellingham had a rumoured £60m release clause, and was signed for €103M rising to approximately €133.9M with add-ons. | | | |
| Delap reported 40m clause... on 11:37 - Apr 6 with 751 views | pointofblue |
| Delap reported 40m clause... on 11:22 - Apr 6 by SuffolkPunchFC |
You're being very naïve if you think that if Liverpool bid £45m and Arsenal £40m, that the player could force us to take the lower bid.
You might try to argue that the player has to agree personal terms, and they do, but I'd be very surprised if there isn't a 'negotiate in good faith' clause in there, that would prevent the player engineering one over another if the terms were similar.
Without the details of the contract and any linked terms, everything is pure speculation. |
If the release clause is £40m, on the face of it, we have to accept any bid that comes in at that amount. Therefore, why would any club bid £45m, £50m etc. for him? It's just using up unnecessary funds which could be used as part of Delap's contract to tempt him to them.
The only thing is if is there is a clause to say that we're fine as long as we accept AN offer of £40m or above and clubs start a bidding war for better chance of exclusively dealing with Delap. Perhaps the likes of Brighton, Fulham or Brentford might want that due to the large wages on offer from Arsenal and Chelsea, if interested. But I'm not sure if that kind of clause is a thing. | |
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| Delap reported 40m clause... on 11:43 - Apr 6 with 736 views | olimar |
| Delap reported 40m clause... on 08:25 - Apr 6 by Marshalls_Mullet |
It is what it is.
Southampton were in for him too.
It was likely we had to agree it or lose him. |
Totally agree. Even at the time we signed him (and this is not hindsight), there was so much talk about top up fees (£15m + £5m if I remember?), sell on fees and buyback clauses, that I accepted that was the inevitable consequence of what was necessary to get a 21 year old out of Man Citys academy.
It isnt the first time theyve sold off one of their young prospects, but heavily insured themselves against it costing them in future.
The only reason the Omari deal wasnt similarly complicated (and maybe it has more in it than we assume too) was because Chelsea desperately needed to bring in revenue by June 30th and they had someone offering a decent amount of money for an academy graduate that would solve that. We had allegedly been quoted much more earlier in the month and the story was that we were going to look elsehwere, all about putting pressure on them. | | | |
| Delap reported 40m clause... on 11:44 - Apr 6 with 733 views | Herbivore |
| Delap reported 40m clause... on 11:33 - Apr 6 by SuffolkPunchFC |
Real World example - Jude Bellingham had a rumoured £60m release clause, and was signed for €103M rising to approximately €133.9M with add-ons. |
Rumoured being the key word here. | |
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| Delap reported 40m clause... on 11:47 - Apr 6 with 725 views | Herbivore |
| Delap reported 40m clause... on 11:22 - Apr 6 by SuffolkPunchFC |
You're being very naïve if you think that if Liverpool bid £45m and Arsenal £40m, that the player could force us to take the lower bid.
You might try to argue that the player has to agree personal terms, and they do, but I'd be very surprised if there isn't a 'negotiate in good faith' clause in there, that would prevent the player engineering one over another if the terms were similar.
Without the details of the contract and any linked terms, everything is pure speculation. |
I'd say you're being naive if you think we'd be in a position to turn down the lower offer that still meets his release clause. It's possible we've worded it in a way that says £40m is the minimum we'll accept but in the event of bids in excess of that we can reject the lower offers and only accept the highest bid, but I'd be surprised if that's the case. | |
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| Delap reported 40m clause... on 11:48 - Apr 6 with 720 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
Interesting - hadn't seen that. Just goes to show the reliability of these media driven rumours that crop up all the time though. The Bellingham one came from SSN - so the one about Delap in the Daily Mail is probably at least as unreliable. | | | |
| Delap reported 40m clause... on 11:56 - Apr 6 with 707 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Delap reported 40m clause... on 11:47 - Apr 6 by Herbivore |
I'd say you're being naive if you think we'd be in a position to turn down the lower offer that still meets his release clause. It's possible we've worded it in a way that says £40m is the minimum we'll accept but in the event of bids in excess of that we can reject the lower offers and only accept the highest bid, but I'd be surprised if that's the case. |
You're not understanding how these release clauses are usually written. It will obligate us to allow the player to begin to talk to the enquiring club. During that process it does not stop other clubs enquiring, and speaking to the player.
Once terms are agreed, and the release clause is met (potentially by multiple clubs), we are obligated to accept an offer - but not necessarily tied to the first offer received. Player agreeing terms of course also comes into it too, but any well written contract will guard against unreasonable negotiations. | | | |
| Delap reported 40m clause... on 12:01 - Apr 6 with 694 views | pointofblue |
| Delap reported 40m clause... on 11:56 - Apr 6 by SuffolkPunchFC |
You're not understanding how these release clauses are usually written. It will obligate us to allow the player to begin to talk to the enquiring club. During that process it does not stop other clubs enquiring, and speaking to the player.
Once terms are agreed, and the release clause is met (potentially by multiple clubs), we are obligated to accept an offer - but not necessarily tied to the first offer received. Player agreeing terms of course also comes into it too, but any well written contract will guard against unreasonable negotiations. |
So you're basically saying the clause might state that we have to accept AN offer of £40m or over, but not necessarily every offer. Which is exactly what I say in the second paragraph of the OP. | |
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