| ITV slated for Grand National coverage on 09:47 - Apr 6 with 3515 views | J2BLUE |
Animal Rising can protest and say whatever they want, fair play to them, but not showing the fall seems to be an odd point to make. No sport shows replays of bad looking potential injuries. |  |
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| ITV slated for Grand National coverage on 09:50 - Apr 6 with 3489 views | Mullet |
| ITV slated for Grand National coverage on 09:47 - Apr 6 by J2BLUE |
Animal Rising can protest and say whatever they want, fair play to them, but not showing the fall seems to be an odd point to make. No sport shows replays of bad looking potential injuries. |
Football does it all the time (violent coduct and bad tackles especially), so do combat sports. I guess the line comes when it might lead to a death. But if you're animal rights activist maybe you want punters to see the damage it does? |  |
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| ITV slated for Grand National coverage on 10:16 - Apr 6 with 3382 views | OldFart71 |
I don't think they ever intentionally or unintentionally show replays where a horse falls and is injured. I believe that the bone of contention regarding race horses being put down is that some could be saved. I believe if a horse breaks a leg then it is very difficult to put that right. Many horses cost very little and earn very little whilst training fees, vet bills etc can be quite prohibitive. Of course there's the argument that if you can't afford it then you shouldn't purchase a horse. Many, many races across Britain pay very small prize money for winning a race. Around £3,000. Out of that the jockey has to be paid around 11% of the prize money plus the riding fee and then of course there's the trainers fee. Mark Johnston (Flat trainer) charges £95 per day. So that £3,000 is small fry compared to costs. That's why some owners rely on a horse getting a good handicap mark so they can bet on a horse. All of course leading to why many horses are put down due to the cost. |  | | |
| ITV slated for Grand National coverage on 10:18 - Apr 6 with 3369 views | J2BLUE |
| ITV slated for Grand National coverage on 09:50 - Apr 6 by Mullet |
Football does it all the time (violent coduct and bad tackles especially), so do combat sports. I guess the line comes when it might lead to a death. But if you're animal rights activist maybe you want punters to see the damage it does? |
Football shows bad tackles when it's clear the player is ok. Combat sports is a bit different.
That is a fair point although ITV would get slated if they showed replays of bad falls. | |
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| ITV slated for Grand National coverage on 10:20 - Apr 6 with 3361 views | NeedhamChris |
| ITV slated for Grand National coverage on 09:47 - Apr 6 by J2BLUE |
Animal Rising can protest and say whatever they want, fair play to them, but not showing the fall seems to be an odd point to make. No sport shows replays of bad looking potential injuries. |
I can understand why they want it shown. From their perspective, must be frustrating seeing the erasure of an animals suffering for purely sporting reasons just to protect the image of the sport.
But that's in isolation, you're right of course that it follows normal precedent so I don't think it's an argument they'll have any joy with.
I noticed another jockey was under investigation for putting competing above the horses welfare too. Very sad. | |
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| ITV slated for Grand National coverage on 10:27 - Apr 6 with 3338 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| ITV slated for Grand National coverage on 10:16 - Apr 6 by OldFart71 |
I don't think they ever intentionally or unintentionally show replays where a horse falls and is injured. I believe that the bone of contention regarding race horses being put down is that some could be saved. I believe if a horse breaks a leg then it is very difficult to put that right. Many horses cost very little and earn very little whilst training fees, vet bills etc can be quite prohibitive. Of course there's the argument that if you can't afford it then you shouldn't purchase a horse. Many, many races across Britain pay very small prize money for winning a race. Around £3,000. Out of that the jockey has to be paid around 11% of the prize money plus the riding fee and then of course there's the trainers fee. Mark Johnston (Flat trainer) charges £95 per day. So that £3,000 is small fry compared to costs. That's why some owners rely on a horse getting a good handicap mark so they can bet on a horse. All of course leading to why many horses are put down due to the cost. |
Just to say, no horses are put down due to cost. And the reason horses get put down when they break a leg is because a horse leg shatters when it breaks when horses put weight on it during the recovery. There’s no way for a horse to not put weight on it and when the leg shatters into 30 bone pieces, it’s then an infection etc.
As for animal rising moaning that the fall wasn’t shown on the replays, that’s just pathetic. Do they moan that sky don’t show the F1 crash replays until they know the driver is safe? Broadway boy wasn’t actually at deaths door and hadn’t broken anything, he’d hit the deck and was a bit dazed. But the screens were still up. There was no way ITV would show the replay without knowing that. On their replays going forward, they will be showing it now the horse is known to be ok. It’s nothing to do with hiding the truth or any of that other sh*te animal rising say. Like claiming Celebre D’Allen collapsed? No he had heatstroke.
Animal rising will be devastated no horses died in the race again as it doesn’t suit their agenda. |  |
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| ITV slated for Grand National coverage on 10:28 - Apr 6 with 3327 views | Ryorry |
| ITV slated for Grand National coverage on 10:16 - Apr 6 by OldFart71 |
I don't think they ever intentionally or unintentionally show replays where a horse falls and is injured. I believe that the bone of contention regarding race horses being put down is that some could be saved. I believe if a horse breaks a leg then it is very difficult to put that right. Many horses cost very little and earn very little whilst training fees, vet bills etc can be quite prohibitive. Of course there's the argument that if you can't afford it then you shouldn't purchase a horse. Many, many races across Britain pay very small prize money for winning a race. Around £3,000. Out of that the jockey has to be paid around 11% of the prize money plus the riding fee and then of course there's the trainers fee. Mark Johnston (Flat trainer) charges £95 per day. So that £3,000 is small fry compared to costs. That's why some owners rely on a horse getting a good handicap mark so they can bet on a horse. All of course leading to why many horses are put down due to the cost. |
It’s physically impossible to repair a broken leg in a horse, nothing to do with money.
Horses can’t rest and take the weight off the injured leg like humans can in a plaster cast. They’d need to be suspended in a sling for weeks, and that would in itself be a massive welfare issue as well as causing even more medical issues. |  |
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| ITV slated for Grand National coverage on 10:30 - Apr 6 with 3305 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| ITV slated for Grand National coverage on 10:20 - Apr 6 by NeedhamChris |
I can understand why they want it shown. From their perspective, must be frustrating seeing the erasure of an animals suffering for purely sporting reasons just to protect the image of the sport.
But that's in isolation, you're right of course that it follows normal precedent so I don't think it's an argument they'll have any joy with.
I noticed another jockey was under investigation for putting competing above the horses welfare too. Very sad. |
Just to say re the jockey being investigated, the horse made a huge move at the milling road and gained lots of ground. To then be pulled up a minute or so later with heatstroke. Any time a big move is made and the horse then doesn’t finish, will have them investigating. It’s standard procedure.
Animal rising trying to flip it to suggest it’s a welfare issue about him being overridden or whatever they’re saying is not fair or accurate. | |
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| ITV slated for Grand National coverage on 10:46 - Apr 6 with 3225 views | Crawfordsboot |
| ITV slated for Grand National coverage on 09:47 - Apr 6 by J2BLUE |
Animal Rising can protest and say whatever they want, fair play to them, but not showing the fall seems to be an odd point to make. No sport shows replays of bad looking potential injuries. |
Replays were not needed. The issue was more that after what was a serious fall the commentary made virtually no reference to it but rather waxed lyrical about the wonderful care and provisions made for the welfare of the horses. |  | | |
| Codswallop. (n/t) on 10:48 - Apr 6 with 3209 views | Bloots |
| ITV slated for Grand National coverage on 10:16 - Apr 6 by OldFart71 |
I don't think they ever intentionally or unintentionally show replays where a horse falls and is injured. I believe that the bone of contention regarding race horses being put down is that some could be saved. I believe if a horse breaks a leg then it is very difficult to put that right. Many horses cost very little and earn very little whilst training fees, vet bills etc can be quite prohibitive. Of course there's the argument that if you can't afford it then you shouldn't purchase a horse. Many, many races across Britain pay very small prize money for winning a race. Around £3,000. Out of that the jockey has to be paid around 11% of the prize money plus the riding fee and then of course there's the trainers fee. Mark Johnston (Flat trainer) charges £95 per day. So that £3,000 is small fry compared to costs. That's why some owners rely on a horse getting a good handicap mark so they can bet on a horse. All of course leading to why many horses are put down due to the cost. |
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| My horse got hit…. on 10:50 - Apr 6 with 3190 views | Bloots |
| ITV slated for Grand National coverage on 10:27 - Apr 6 by The_Romford_Blue |
Just to say, no horses are put down due to cost. And the reason horses get put down when they break a leg is because a horse leg shatters when it breaks when horses put weight on it during the recovery. There’s no way for a horse to not put weight on it and when the leg shatters into 30 bone pieces, it’s then an infection etc.
As for animal rising moaning that the fall wasn’t shown on the replays, that’s just pathetic. Do they moan that sky don’t show the F1 crash replays until they know the driver is safe? Broadway boy wasn’t actually at deaths door and hadn’t broken anything, he’d hit the deck and was a bit dazed. But the screens were still up. There was no way ITV would show the replay without knowing that. On their replays going forward, they will be showing it now the horse is known to be ok. It’s nothing to do with hiding the truth or any of that other sh*te animal rising say. Like claiming Celebre D’Allen collapsed? No he had heatstroke.
Animal rising will be devastated no horses died in the race again as it doesn’t suit their agenda. |
….by a car a couple of months back.
Ban cars immediately. | |
| "One of the best posters on TWTD and a really good bloke" - Anon (April 2025) |
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| My horse got hit…. on 10:53 - Apr 6 with 3163 views | leitrimblue |
| My horse got hit…. on 10:50 - Apr 6 by Bloots |
….by a car a couple of months back.
Ban cars immediately. |
We should defiantly ban horses from motorways. That's just asking for trouble |  | | |
| Too right…. on 10:56 - Apr 6 with 3112 views | Bloots |
| My horse got hit…. on 10:53 - Apr 6 by leitrimblue |
We should defiantly ban horses from motorways. That's just asking for trouble |
….he was trotting out of the Cobham services (jazz mag and mars bar in hoof) and he got cut up by a knob in a BMW (typical eh?).
Luckily he’s ok. | |
| "One of the best posters on TWTD and a really good bloke" - Anon (April 2025) |
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| Too right…. on 11:03 - Apr 6 with 3056 views | leitrimblue |
| Too right…. on 10:56 - Apr 6 by Bloots |
….he was trotting out of the Cobham services (jazz mag and mars bar in hoof) and he got cut up by a knob in a BMW (typical eh?).
Luckily he’s ok. |
 Typical. Glad to hear he's OK though. A few Sunday afternoon beers and a browse of readers wives and hopefully he'll be as good as new. | | | |
| ITV slated for Grand National coverage on 11:08 - Apr 6 with 3003 views | BloomBlue |
They should show animal cruelty, which horse racing is. Like greyhound racing it should be consigned to the history books, it's 2025 not 1825.
Horses in the wild don't go running around looking to have a load of leather strapped to them and then a different species like a homosapien sitting on them, maybe the occasional tic or flea but not a homosapien. Then when they do find that human and leather strapped to them they're forced to jump fences and if they don't run fast enough they get another piece of leather wipped against their buttocks, just like in the wide - not. But then if they do run faster and win, a human then adds some weight to them to run slower, again resulting in leather round the buttocks. Not because the weights are good or natural for the horse, it's because the betting companies can make more money
Horse racing only exists so gambling companies can get rich and those that bet can stick their head in the sand and say 'it's all natural to horses" |  | | |
| ITV slated for Grand National coverage on 11:17 - Apr 6 with 2942 views | stonojnr |
| ITV slated for Grand National coverage on 11:08 - Apr 6 by BloomBlue |
They should show animal cruelty, which horse racing is. Like greyhound racing it should be consigned to the history books, it's 2025 not 1825.
Horses in the wild don't go running around looking to have a load of leather strapped to them and then a different species like a homosapien sitting on them, maybe the occasional tic or flea but not a homosapien. Then when they do find that human and leather strapped to them they're forced to jump fences and if they don't run fast enough they get another piece of leather wipped against their buttocks, just like in the wide - not. But then if they do run faster and win, a human then adds some weight to them to run slower, again resulting in leather round the buttocks. Not because the weights are good or natural for the horse, it's because the betting companies can make more money
Horse racing only exists so gambling companies can get rich and those that bet can stick their head in the sand and say 'it's all natural to horses" |
you literally cant force a horse to do anything it doesnt want to do, half a ton of animal if it doesnt want to jump a fence, it wont, if youd ever handled horses, youd know that. | | | |
| They actually wouldn’t let….. on 11:23 - Apr 6 with 2886 views | Bloots |
| ITV slated for Grand National coverage on 11:17 - Apr 6 by stonojnr |
you literally cant force a horse to do anything it doesnt want to do, half a ton of animal if it doesnt want to jump a fence, it wont, if youd ever handled horses, youd know that. |
….Mr Incredible run in the National this year because he’s a stroppy nag who can’t be bothered to run most of the time!
If they don’t want to, they won’t. | |
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| They actually wouldn’t let….. on 11:34 - Apr 6 with 2843 views | Ryorry |
| They actually wouldn’t let….. on 11:23 - Apr 6 by Bloots |
….Mr Incredible run in the National this year because he’s a stroppy nag who can’t be bothered to run most of the time!
If they don’t want to, they won’t. |
Yep, there've been a few down the years who obviously didn't enjoy it, refused to race (RR on the racecard for those not itk) & nothing to be done about it, so they've then been successfully rehomed to live out their lives happily as leisure riding horses etc. | |
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| They actually wouldn’t let….. on 11:46 - Apr 6 with 2778 views | tcblue |
| They actually wouldn’t let….. on 11:34 - Apr 6 by Ryorry |
Yep, there've been a few down the years who obviously didn't enjoy it, refused to race (RR on the racecard for those not itk) & nothing to be done about it, so they've then been successfully rehomed to live out their lives happily as leisure riding horses etc. |
Or they sign for Colchester United, of course | | | |
| ITV slated for Grand National coverage on 11:47 - Apr 6 with 2764 views | chicoazul |
| ITV slated for Grand National coverage on 11:17 - Apr 6 by stonojnr |
you literally cant force a horse to do anything it doesnt want to do, half a ton of animal if it doesnt want to jump a fence, it wont, if youd ever handled horses, youd know that. |
This explains so much, especially including why there is a queue of horses 800 long waiting to get into my local horse racing track to try to kill themselves going over jumps with a person sitting on them. |  |
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| ITV slated for Grand National coverage on 12:25 - Apr 6 with 2678 views | Ryorry |
| ITV slated for Grand National coverage on 11:47 - Apr 6 by chicoazul |
This explains so much, especially including why there is a queue of horses 800 long waiting to get into my local horse racing track to try to kill themselves going over jumps with a person sitting on them. |
As mentioned above, they should definitely be discouraged from travelling on the M25. | |
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| ITV slated for Grand National coverage on 13:13 - Apr 6 with 2496 views | Radlett_blue |
| ITV slated for Grand National coverage on 10:16 - Apr 6 by OldFart71 |
I don't think they ever intentionally or unintentionally show replays where a horse falls and is injured. I believe that the bone of contention regarding race horses being put down is that some could be saved. I believe if a horse breaks a leg then it is very difficult to put that right. Many horses cost very little and earn very little whilst training fees, vet bills etc can be quite prohibitive. Of course there's the argument that if you can't afford it then you shouldn't purchase a horse. Many, many races across Britain pay very small prize money for winning a race. Around £3,000. Out of that the jockey has to be paid around 11% of the prize money plus the riding fee and then of course there's the trainers fee. Mark Johnston (Flat trainer) charges £95 per day. So that £3,000 is small fry compared to costs. That's why some owners rely on a horse getting a good handicap mark so they can bet on a horse. All of course leading to why many horses are put down due to the cost. |
It is very difficult for a horse to recover from a broken leg. That's the reason most are put down after suffering such an injury. It's not really about the cost. |  |
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| ITV slated for Grand National coverage on 13:19 - Apr 6 with 2465 views | BloomBlue |
| ITV slated for Grand National coverage on 11:17 - Apr 6 by stonojnr |
you literally cant force a horse to do anything it doesnt want to do, half a ton of animal if it doesnt want to jump a fence, it wont, if youd ever handled horses, youd know that. |
Rubbish, any animal can be forced to do something, even if it doesn't want to do. You should go to Asia and see how they forced trained elephants years ago to do what humans want, and believe me elephants are bigger than horses.
If horse racing was that concerned they would ban the whip. The whip is used when a horse has decided it doesn't want to run as fast as the jockey wants it to run, but surprise, surprise, the horse runs quicker, ie it's being forced. It's animal cruelty.
If you're point was valid, why don't they just simply get a dozen wild horse in each race and stick on a jockey on and run towards the fences? It's because they wouldn't run and jump, and that's because they haven't been forced trained to take a saddle and a human, jump fences and/or run in a circle. Why do they stick extra weights on them? To force slow them down.
The sooner it's banned the better. | | | |
| They actually wouldn’t let….. on 13:30 - Apr 6 with 2423 views | BarcaBlue |
| They actually wouldn’t let….. on 11:34 - Apr 6 by Ryorry |
Yep, there've been a few down the years who obviously didn't enjoy it, refused to race (RR on the racecard for those not itk) & nothing to be done about it, so they've then been successfully rehomed to live out their lives happily as leisure riding horses etc. |
Why bother with horse trainers if the horses are just doing it for the love of the sport? Maybe they've been conditioned to run and jump rather than enjoying it and treating it like a school's sports day. |  | | |
| ITV slated for Grand National coverage on 13:57 - Apr 6 with 2350 views | leitrimblue |
| ITV slated for Grand National coverage on 11:08 - Apr 6 by BloomBlue |
They should show animal cruelty, which horse racing is. Like greyhound racing it should be consigned to the history books, it's 2025 not 1825.
Horses in the wild don't go running around looking to have a load of leather strapped to them and then a different species like a homosapien sitting on them, maybe the occasional tic or flea but not a homosapien. Then when they do find that human and leather strapped to them they're forced to jump fences and if they don't run fast enough they get another piece of leather wipped against their buttocks, just like in the wide - not. But then if they do run faster and win, a human then adds some weight to them to run slower, again resulting in leather round the buttocks. Not because the weights are good or natural for the horse, it's because the betting companies can make more money
Horse racing only exists so gambling companies can get rich and those that bet can stick their head in the sand and say 'it's all natural to horses" |
I mean it's not quite a fully grown homo sapien sitting on them is it? More like a pale oompa loompa | | | |
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