| Reform Policy 11:04 - May 6 with 5759 views | EdwardStone |
Now that they have got their hands on the levers of power, Farage has passed an edict...
Council workers must be present in the office, no more working from Dubai
Oops.....no more working from Mar a Lago
Oops.... no more working from home
In other news..... Reform are seeking some new admin staff, hours split between office and wfh
" Do as I say, not as I do "
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| Reform Policy on 19:15 - May 6 with 1119 views | blueasfook |
| Reform Policy on 19:00 - May 6 by redrickstuhaart |
Lets have your best example of labour misinformation, and your best labour "lie".
GO! [Post edited 6 May 19:00]
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I'll have a go.
"Smash the gangs". Can you tell me how many gangs have been smashed exactly? |  |
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| Reform Policy on 19:23 - May 6 with 1098 views | Dubtractor |
| Reform Policy on 19:13 - May 6 by blueasfook |
20 years ago? Reaching a bit there i think. |
Just think its interesting that 20% of reform MPs have a criminal record.
I'm not defending Labour, not by any stretch, but equally I wouldn't use Reform as the benchmark either. |  |
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| Reform Policy on 19:28 - May 6 with 1084 views | You_Bloo_Right |
| Reform Policy on 19:03 - May 6 by blueasfook |
You forgot the criminality. As far as I'm aware no Reform MP has been imprisoned for punching a man to the ground in the street and I don't think any Reform MPs currently have an international arrest warrant out for them for corruption. *checks google* nope none arrested on suspicion of child sexual offences either. |
I'm not convinced anyone would cite Anderson, Farage, McMurdock, Tice or Pochin as paragons of virtue.
Not much integrity and some criminality there should one care to look. |  |
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| Reform Policy on 20:18 - May 6 with 1031 views | J2BLUE |
Demanding people return to the office five days a week is a great way to lose your best talent. |  |
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| Reform Policy on 20:51 - May 6 with 984 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Reform Policy on 19:15 - May 6 by blueasfook |
I'll have a go.
"Smash the gangs". Can you tell me how many gangs have been smashed exactly? |
Lets assume just for argument, that going after the gangs is not working, and is a bad idea which, despite the short space of time so far, is not going to work.
In what way would stating that as a policy intention be misinformation or a lie? |  | | |
| Reform Policy on 21:56 - May 6 with 926 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Reform Policy on 19:15 - May 6 by blueasfook |
I'll have a go.
"Smash the gangs". Can you tell me how many gangs have been smashed exactly? |
They’ve done what they said they’d do under that horrendous slogan though. They’ve increased international collaboration, formed that new border security force and massively ramped up funding. Not that any of that is particularly new.
I think they were stupid to ‘sloganise’ the issue given how difficult it is, but sadly that’s where we are now with the state of debate and the level of intelligence running through the country. There’s an interesting informed view on their policy here from before their GE victory.
https://theconversation.com/labours-immigration-plans-a-border-security-expert-e |  |
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| Reform Policy on 21:58 - May 6 with 916 views | The_Major |
I'm curious how a Union Flag a fluttering away where it wasn't before is going to make a jot of material difference to the population of Kent, Lincs, Lancs et al. Is it going to provide better services? Regular buses in the deepest rural areas? Increased frequency of refuse collection? Ensure vital services for all have adequate funding?
Presumably that means no armed services flags in November, or on Armed Forces Day. Or Ukrainian flags - but after seeing a clip of some Reform tapeworm providing a mealy mouthed response to accusations that they're fawning over Putin on The Politics Show earlier, they've probably had their instructions from Moscow. Apparently we shouldn't get too involved with Ukraine as it doesn't have anything to do with us.
I mean, really? This week of all weeks? If it was 1939, would they be saying Poland has nothing to do with us?
Plus, they can blub about WFH all they like. The world has moved on. And what Tice, Farage, Johnson, the Mail and Telegraph need to get through their tiny tiny minds, is the only people who decide whether or not I work from home, is my employer. Nobody else. Not the Government or any politician or newspaper proprietor who has a commercial property portfolio that is tanking.
And one things for sure, if it all goes horribly wrong in those councils, it won't be their fault. Nothing ever is for these people. They'll blame the Government, the Tories, the BBC, single mothers, the unemployed, and so on and so forth.
These people are only interested in one thing. Themselves. They couldn't care less if you voted for them or not. They make their fame by stoking division, claiming that they are what the country needs, whereas in reality, they're cowardly, inadequate treacherous quislings. |  | | |
| Reform Policy on 22:04 - May 6 with 900 views | Blueschev |
| Reform Policy on 21:58 - May 6 by The_Major |
I'm curious how a Union Flag a fluttering away where it wasn't before is going to make a jot of material difference to the population of Kent, Lincs, Lancs et al. Is it going to provide better services? Regular buses in the deepest rural areas? Increased frequency of refuse collection? Ensure vital services for all have adequate funding?
Presumably that means no armed services flags in November, or on Armed Forces Day. Or Ukrainian flags - but after seeing a clip of some Reform tapeworm providing a mealy mouthed response to accusations that they're fawning over Putin on The Politics Show earlier, they've probably had their instructions from Moscow. Apparently we shouldn't get too involved with Ukraine as it doesn't have anything to do with us.
I mean, really? This week of all weeks? If it was 1939, would they be saying Poland has nothing to do with us?
Plus, they can blub about WFH all they like. The world has moved on. And what Tice, Farage, Johnson, the Mail and Telegraph need to get through their tiny tiny minds, is the only people who decide whether or not I work from home, is my employer. Nobody else. Not the Government or any politician or newspaper proprietor who has a commercial property portfolio that is tanking.
And one things for sure, if it all goes horribly wrong in those councils, it won't be their fault. Nothing ever is for these people. They'll blame the Government, the Tories, the BBC, single mothers, the unemployed, and so on and so forth.
These people are only interested in one thing. Themselves. They couldn't care less if you voted for them or not. They make their fame by stoking division, claiming that they are what the country needs, whereas in reality, they're cowardly, inadequate treacherous quislings. |
" Is it going to provide better services? Regular buses in the deepest rural areas? Increased frequency of refuse collection? Ensure vital services for all have adequate funding?"
According to Richard Tice on Newsnight last week the British public aren't interested in these things, they're more concerned with stopping the boats and reducing mass immigration. Which is probably why Reform haven't bothered to come up with any policies to fix them. |  | | |
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| Reform Policy on 22:15 - May 6 with 882 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Reform Policy on 22:04 - May 6 by Blueschev |
" Is it going to provide better services? Regular buses in the deepest rural areas? Increased frequency of refuse collection? Ensure vital services for all have adequate funding?"
According to Richard Tice on Newsnight last week the British public aren't interested in these things, they're more concerned with stopping the boats and reducing mass immigration. Which is probably why Reform haven't bothered to come up with any policies to fix them. |
To be fair, some are only interested in ‘stopping the boats’. But then you have to ask why they’ve got into this state and put a relatively minor issue with existing controls (albeit underfunded and slow moving) above more common every day issues that affect all of us. But you don’t have to look very far to find the propaganda that’s worked them into such a frenzy. | |
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| Reform Policy on 22:33 - May 6 with 852 views | The_Major |
| Reform Policy on 22:15 - May 6 by Swansea_Blue |
To be fair, some are only interested in ‘stopping the boats’. But then you have to ask why they’ve got into this state and put a relatively minor issue with existing controls (albeit underfunded and slow moving) above more common every day issues that affect all of us. But you don’t have to look very far to find the propaganda that’s worked them into such a frenzy. |
Good point, although you would hope the other parties had proposals as to how to deal with ALL the issues, including the single one Reform seem to be focusing on. | | | |
| Reform Policy on 22:57 - May 6 with 818 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Reform Policy on 22:33 - May 6 by The_Major |
Good point, although you would hope the other parties had proposals as to how to deal with ALL the issues, including the single one Reform seem to be focusing on. |
That’d be nice. Let me know when you find such a party and they can have my vote! | |
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| Reform Policy on 04:47 - May 7 with 753 views | Benters |
| Reform Policy on 12:43 - May 6 by Blueschev |
How could anybody vote for these morons? It's just utter nonsense. |
Well a lot of people did,and if I was able to vote in North Essex Reform would have got my vote. |  |
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| Reform Policy on 04:52 - May 7 with 749 views | Benters |
| Reform Policy on 19:03 - May 6 by blueasfook |
You forgot the criminality. As far as I'm aware no Reform MP has been imprisoned for punching a man to the ground in the street and I don't think any Reform MPs currently have an international arrest warrant out for them for corruption. *checks google* nope none arrested on suspicion of child sexual offences either. |
This. | |
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| Reform Policy on 04:53 - May 7 with 750 views | Benters |
| Reform Policy on 21:56 - May 6 by Swansea_Blue |
They’ve done what they said they’d do under that horrendous slogan though. They’ve increased international collaboration, formed that new border security force and massively ramped up funding. Not that any of that is particularly new.
I think they were stupid to ‘sloganise’ the issue given how difficult it is, but sadly that’s where we are now with the state of debate and the level of intelligence running through the country. There’s an interesting informed view on their policy here from before their GE victory.
https://theconversation.com/labours-immigration-plans-a-border-security-expert-e |
The only thing Two Tier is smashing is the record number of illegal immigrants we have pouring into our once beautiful country. [Post edited 7 May 4:55]
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| Reform Policy on 08:55 - May 7 with 664 views | Whos_blue |
| Reform Policy on 04:53 - May 7 by Benters |
The only thing Two Tier is smashing is the record number of illegal immigrants we have pouring into our once beautiful country. [Post edited 7 May 4:55]
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What's not beautiful about the country benters?
It's still a beautiful country.
Granted the vibe around the place is a worry, but writing it off as 'once beautiful" is hyperbolic bobbins mate. |  |
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| Reform Policy on 09:21 - May 7 with 617 views | Herbivore |
| Reform Policy on 04:53 - May 7 by Benters |
The only thing Two Tier is smashing is the record number of illegal immigrants we have pouring into our once beautiful country. [Post edited 7 May 4:55]
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If you want to know why the country is worse now, then try looking at 14 years of the Tories destroying public services and the economic car crash of Brexit. Those things are having a much greater impact on the state of the country than some people rocking up in dinghies and seeking asylum. |  |
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| Reform Policy on 09:23 - May 7 with 602 views | DJR |
| Reform Policy on 04:53 - May 7 by Benters |
The only thing Two Tier is smashing is the record number of illegal immigrants we have pouring into our once beautiful country. [Post edited 7 May 4:55]
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It is especially a shame because the UK is the only country in the world to which illegal immigration is happening. [Post edited 7 May 9:23]
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| Reform Policy on 09:58 - May 7 with 540 views | Blueschev |
| Reform Policy on 09:23 - May 7 by DJR |
It is especially a shame because the UK is the only country in the world to which illegal immigration is happening. [Post edited 7 May 9:23]
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This. The French and Germans take nobody, and don't get me started on Turkey. When will they do their fair share rather than leave it all to us? If we're not careful this tiny Island will sink under the pressure. | | | |
| Reform Policy on 10:12 - May 7 with 502 views | tractordownsouth |
| Reform Policy on 12:01 - May 6 by Guthrum |
Reform's edict that only the Union Flag or Cross of St George are permitted to be flown from or hung within buildings of councils under their control means that Leicestershire County Council cannot display the official Leicestershire flag on their own premises. |
As you'd probably expect, that policy has gone down like a lead balloon in Cornwall. Although thankfully they didn't get an overall majority so won't be leading the council. |  |
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| Reform Policy on 10:36 - May 7 with 469 views | chicoazul |
| Reform Policy on 22:04 - May 6 by Blueschev |
" Is it going to provide better services? Regular buses in the deepest rural areas? Increased frequency of refuse collection? Ensure vital services for all have adequate funding?"
According to Richard Tice on Newsnight last week the British public aren't interested in these things, they're more concerned with stopping the boats and reducing mass immigration. Which is probably why Reform haven't bothered to come up with any policies to fix them. |
Sadly I’m afraid he’s right. It’s the number one or two issue in politics in the UK. |  |
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| Reform Policy on 11:30 - May 7 with 401 views | lowhouseblue |
| Reform Policy on 10:36 - May 7 by chicoazul |
Sadly I’m afraid he’s right. It’s the number one or two issue in politics in the UK. |
more in common has done post local election polling. when asked 'what are your reasons for voting reform' the top answer given, by 67% of reform voters, was national policies on immigration. the winter fuel allowance doesn't score at all in the polling, but the vaguer 'to send a message to labour' comes in second at 34%. having been trounced in traditional labour areas, the party's post election soul searching has all focused on the winter fuel allowance, no mention of immigration. |  |
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| Reform Policy on 11:36 - May 7 with 372 views | MJallday |
tbf when im in dubai i dont get an incredible amount done :) |  |
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| Reform Policy on 11:36 - May 7 with 376 views | Herbivore |
| Reform Policy on 10:36 - May 7 by chicoazul |
Sadly I’m afraid he’s right. It’s the number one or two issue in politics in the UK. |
It's time that the white British community asked itself why so many white Brits are being radicalised to believe that immigrants are the source of all problems. These white Brits were born here, why don't they share our values of tolerance and openness? Why have they rejected our traditional values and been attracted by fear and hate peddled by white hate preachers like Yaxley-Lennon and Farage? It's time we acknowledged that white British extremism is becoming a problem. [Post edited 7 May 11:38]
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| Reform Policy on 11:48 - May 7 with 345 views | lowhouseblue |
| Reform Policy on 11:36 - May 7 by Herbivore |
It's time that the white British community asked itself why so many white Brits are being radicalised to believe that immigrants are the source of all problems. These white Brits were born here, why don't they share our values of tolerance and openness? Why have they rejected our traditional values and been attracted by fear and hate peddled by white hate preachers like Yaxley-Lennon and Farage? It's time we acknowledged that white British extremism is becoming a problem. [Post edited 7 May 11:38]
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i'm guessing that sounded clever in your head. sadly it explains why the left has become seen by most of the electorate as patronising, elitist and uninterested in most of the electorate. people who oppose current levels of immigration (1) don't believe that immigrants are the source of all problems - that's just a lie you intend to belittle people you disagree with; 2) don't adopt values of 'fear and hate'; (3) aren't extremists; and (4) aren't radicalised or puppets who can only hold ideas peddled by hate preachers.
all you're doing is trying to systematically delegitimise and stigmatise entirely main stream views on a key policy issue - is 3 million net migrants in 4 years ok? - rather than actually engage with people who holds view different from your own. and you know you're doing it. | |
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| Reform Policy on 11:53 - May 7 with 328 views | Herbivore |
| Reform Policy on 11:48 - May 7 by lowhouseblue |
i'm guessing that sounded clever in your head. sadly it explains why the left has become seen by most of the electorate as patronising, elitist and uninterested in most of the electorate. people who oppose current levels of immigration (1) don't believe that immigrants are the source of all problems - that's just a lie you intend to belittle people you disagree with; 2) don't adopt values of 'fear and hate'; (3) aren't extremists; and (4) aren't radicalised or puppets who can only hold ideas peddled by hate preachers.
all you're doing is trying to systematically delegitimise and stigmatise entirely main stream views on a key policy issue - is 3 million net migrants in 4 years ok? - rather than actually engage with people who holds view different from your own. and you know you're doing it. |
Blah, blah, 3 million immigrants, blah, blah, legitimate concerns, blah, blah, THE LEFT!!!, blah, blah, blah. | |
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