| Davis 12:14 - May 22 with 2199 views | tonybied |
Despite how phenomenal he was last time in the Championship and how sad I'd be to see him go, I can't help but think that it may be better on the whole for the team if he moves on. His defensive qualities are just not good enough for us in the Premier League. I'm not saying he is not good enough for the Prem, just that the midfield/defence around him needs to be of much better quality than we have.
I think the balance of having someone slightly better defensively and not looking to try and move too far up the pitch, leaving gaping holes for the forward machines/steam trains to exploit, will be much better for the team.
Of course, this would also all depend on us finding a decent replacement for him. [Post edited 22 May 12:15]
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| Davis on 12:16 - May 22 with 1565 views | ArnieM |
I prefer Townsend both defensively and he can get forward and put in a decent cross too. So if Davis does jump ship, fine . and good luck to him.. |  |
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| Davis on 12:17 - May 22 with 1559 views | itfcsuth |
In no way would it be better if Leif Davis moves on.
We are not in the PL, we are in the Championship, and at that level he has been absolutely outstanding for us.
Would be a big body blow, but of course if a big number comes in we would have to take it. |  | | |
| Davis on 12:17 - May 22 with 1556 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
Its tough because eventually we would hope we can build a stronger defence and midfield alongside him and he is integral to the style that Mckenna wants to play, so would be a real shame to see him go.
I do think though it would be a great move for him, European football, in a team that will play to his strength. He has some genuine elite level attributes. His engine and chance creation ability is so good. I think he would be a hit at Forest. |  |
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| Davis on 12:17 - May 22 with 1562 views | chicoazul |
So weird how there is plenty of interest in him from the Premier League if he’s as bad as many TWTDers recently decided. Don’t these managers or chief execs even read this board? |  |
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| Davis on 12:18 - May 22 with 1533 views | portmanking |
| Davis on 12:17 - May 22 by chicoazul |
So weird how there is plenty of interest in him from the Premier League if he’s as bad as many TWTDers recently decided. Don’t these managers or chief execs even read this board? |
It's almost as if he'd thrive in a stronger PL team where the onus was more on attacking/counter-attacking than sticking 10 men behind the ball and hoping for the best... |  | | |
| Davis on 12:22 - May 22 with 1499 views | Dubtractor |
| Davis on 12:17 - May 22 by chicoazul |
So weird how there is plenty of interest in him from the Premier League if he’s as bad as many TWTDers recently decided. Don’t these managers or chief execs even read this board? |
Genuinely a but weird, isn't it?
He's been amazing for us since signing, and such an important part of how we play, but like almost every player in our squad has found this season challenging, so a decent chunk of our support can't wait to get rid of him.
Townsend has played about 3 games for us and people have decided he is a better option? Fools all of them.
Nothing against Townsend, who is a decent enough option, but he's not a patch on Davis, and we will have a much much better chance of promotion if Davis stays. [Post edited 22 May 12:26]
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| Davis on 12:22 - May 22 with 1481 views | suffolkpoker |
All depends on price to me. Anything north of £30m it’s a sell and we play Townsend and reinvest the money.
David stats in tbe EFL are nothing short of insane |  |
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| Davis on 12:23 - May 22 with 1470 views | Matt_Netherlands |
What’s a realistic fee for him? £15m+ add ons? |  | | |
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| Davis on 12:26 - May 22 with 1443 views | tonybied |
| Davis on 12:17 - May 22 by itfcsuth |
In no way would it be better if Leif Davis moves on.
We are not in the PL, we are in the Championship, and at that level he has been absolutely outstanding for us.
Would be a big body blow, but of course if a big number comes in we would have to take it. |
Absolutely, it would be a body blow, and yes, we're going to be in the championship next season, but I feel we need to change the way we are set up. I think that it would be better to do that now, rather than in the following summer, after relying on playing the same way all season again. Rip the band-aid off, as such. | | | |
| Davis on 12:26 - May 22 with 1436 views | Horsham |
| Davis on 12:22 - May 22 by Dubtractor |
Genuinely a but weird, isn't it?
He's been amazing for us since signing, and such an important part of how we play, but like almost every player in our squad has found this season challenging, so a decent chunk of our support can't wait to get rid of him.
Townsend has played about 3 games for us and people have decided he is a better option? Fools all of them.
Nothing against Townsend, who is a decent enough option, but he's not a patch on Davis, and we will have a much much better chance of promotion if Davis stays. [Post edited 22 May 12:26]
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Townsend who wasn’t pulling up trees for West Brom and getting on a bit. He’s a good pro and done well for us but I’d be massively surprised if he’s our first choice left back. Leif is streets ahead of him. |  | | |
| Davis on 12:26 - May 22 with 1436 views | TractorFrog |
The one player I am most hoping we keep for next season is Leif Davis. He was absolutely crucial to our last promotion, clearly more than any other player bar perhaps Sam Morsy. |  |
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| Davis on 12:28 - May 22 with 1414 views | homer_123 |
| Davis on 12:16 - May 22 by ArnieM |
I prefer Townsend both defensively and he can get forward and put in a decent cross too. So if Davis does jump ship, fine . and good luck to him.. |
In the Championship, I'd want Davis, every single day of the week.
An attacking, over/under lapping full back with that many assists at L1 and Championship level is very much what we need. |  |
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| Davis on 12:29 - May 22 with 1401 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
We cant drop players for next season based on their ability in the Prem.
He 'looks' weak defensively as in Championship Manager terms he is asked to play DMA L.
It almost an impossible ask in our team. He would look good in an established counter attacking side. [Post edited 22 May 12:31]
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| Davis on 12:33 - May 22 with 1316 views | Horsham |
| Davis on 12:16 - May 22 by ArnieM |
I prefer Townsend both defensively and he can get forward and put in a decent cross too. So if Davis does jump ship, fine . and good luck to him.. |
Best tip Forest off to spend their millions on Townsend instead then! | | | |
| Davis on 12:33 - May 22 with 1310 views | homer_123 |
Are we in the Prem next year?
As far as I am aware, we're in the Championship. Now, I could be wrong but Davis is another level in the Championship, Townsend is nowhere near him (I like Townsend by the way, solid pro).
Davis is worth 10 to 20 points across the course of the season, IMHO.
Not a player that is easy to replace. | |
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| Davis on 12:34 - May 22 with 1292 views | chicoazul |
| Davis on 12:22 - May 22 by Dubtractor |
Genuinely a but weird, isn't it?
He's been amazing for us since signing, and such an important part of how we play, but like almost every player in our squad has found this season challenging, so a decent chunk of our support can't wait to get rid of him.
Townsend has played about 3 games for us and people have decided he is a better option? Fools all of them.
Nothing against Townsend, who is a decent enough option, but he's not a patch on Davis, and we will have a much much better chance of promotion if Davis stays. [Post edited 22 May 12:26]
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P4P the best player we’ve signed under Gamechanger and maybe the best player we’ve signed since Jim. As I said the other day I sort of get it with McK as he’s been ultimately in charge of the last three months of horrendousness although I’m not saying he should go, but people saying Davis is cr@p basically are mad. | |
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| Davis on 12:35 - May 22 with 1273 views | tonybied |
| Davis on 12:22 - May 22 by Dubtractor |
Genuinely a but weird, isn't it?
He's been amazing for us since signing, and such an important part of how we play, but like almost every player in our squad has found this season challenging, so a decent chunk of our support can't wait to get rid of him.
Townsend has played about 3 games for us and people have decided he is a better option? Fools all of them.
Nothing against Townsend, who is a decent enough option, but he's not a patch on Davis, and we will have a much much better chance of promotion if Davis stays. [Post edited 22 May 12:26]
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I'm not dying to get rid. He has been fantastic for us, and as stated already, it would be a sad loss for me.
There is no denying that he has been particularly poor defensively for a large part of this season. He has fantastic ability moving forward, but this has been outweighed by his positioning, causing issues for the team on numerous occasions this season.
I have no doubt that he would be great again in the Championship but for me, the team would have more balance and stability with someone slightly more solid out on the left. | | | |
| Davis on 12:38 - May 22 with 1237 views | CobboldCrusty |
| Davis on 12:22 - May 22 by Dubtractor |
Genuinely a but weird, isn't it?
He's been amazing for us since signing, and such an important part of how we play, but like almost every player in our squad has found this season challenging, so a decent chunk of our support can't wait to get rid of him.
Townsend has played about 3 games for us and people have decided he is a better option? Fools all of them.
Nothing against Townsend, who is a decent enough option, but he's not a patch on Davis, and we will have a much much better chance of promotion if Davis stays. [Post edited 22 May 12:26]
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Agree but I think it might be better to accept that he is going to move on and think optimistically about the type of options we might get in for a far smaller fee to compete with Townsend. This squad and its approach is going to have to evolve without some of the components that got us here.
Teams are going to be ready for Ipswich this time, so McKenna is going to have to think hard about our tactical approach next season. I don't think we'll win games outscoring teams the way we used to. The chips just aren't going to fall the way they did in the two promotion seasons.
Does that involve acquiring a more orthodox left back? Does it mean a change of approach where our LB has less responsibility/distance to cover than Leif did? Who knows, but the combination of him being pinned back and a sluggish two-man midfield left us really struggling to pull the strings, move the ball up the pitch and expose space behind full backs the way we used to.
The tactics that got us to the PL have been in several Athletic articles. Easier league or not, they're going to be so ready for us. |  | | |
| Davis on 12:42 - May 22 with 1178 views | Dubtractor |
| Davis on 12:35 - May 22 by tonybied |
I'm not dying to get rid. He has been fantastic for us, and as stated already, it would be a sad loss for me.
There is no denying that he has been particularly poor defensively for a large part of this season. He has fantastic ability moving forward, but this has been outweighed by his positioning, causing issues for the team on numerous occasions this season.
I have no doubt that he would be great again in the Championship but for me, the team would have more balance and stability with someone slightly more solid out on the left. |
My rant wasn't aimed at your post, fwiw. | |
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| Davis on 12:43 - May 22 with 1161 views | Dubtractor |
| Davis on 12:38 - May 22 by CobboldCrusty |
Agree but I think it might be better to accept that he is going to move on and think optimistically about the type of options we might get in for a far smaller fee to compete with Townsend. This squad and its approach is going to have to evolve without some of the components that got us here.
Teams are going to be ready for Ipswich this time, so McKenna is going to have to think hard about our tactical approach next season. I don't think we'll win games outscoring teams the way we used to. The chips just aren't going to fall the way they did in the two promotion seasons.
Does that involve acquiring a more orthodox left back? Does it mean a change of approach where our LB has less responsibility/distance to cover than Leif did? Who knows, but the combination of him being pinned back and a sluggish two-man midfield left us really struggling to pull the strings, move the ball up the pitch and expose space behind full backs the way we used to.
The tactics that got us to the PL have been in several Athletic articles. Easier league or not, they're going to be so ready for us. |
I don't disagree with any of that, and there is a good chance he does move this summer, but it will leave us a weaker team. | |
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| Davis on 12:49 - May 22 with 1093 views | Jrm_72 |
Really heartening to see all the posters coming out to bat for Leif here. Makes me feel a lot less alone in my admiration for the guy!
I think he is great, and probably one of my favourite current players. The irrational hate he gets here baffles me - I don't like to rag on people's football knowledge, particularly as I was no good at playing myself, but it really has left me wondering if I'm watching the same game sometimes.
Aside from his well documented excellent forward play, I've seen numerous times this year where he has done remarkably well 1 on 1 with some of the world's best wingers. A lot of the times he has been blamed is when the system has demanded he cover 70yards of pitch in about 3 seconds. Who knows, if we didn't turn the ball over so quickly, and been so easy to play through, he might have a chance to get back?!
I also think the view of his corner delivery might also be rosier if a few of the dozen or so times one of our defenders had crashed a free header against the bar, post, or just wide, had gone in. Small margins and all that. | | | |
| Davis on 12:52 - May 22 with 1056 views | _clive_baker_ |
I think it would be a massive blow if he left. Fullbacks like him don't grow on trees, I think he's top class and a freak of nature physically. His ability to get forward and create is so important to how we've played and our journey up through the leagues under McKenna. He's not had as much licence to do it this season, but I'm (perhaps naively) hoping he will still be here next season.
Still, money talks. If someone puts £25m in front of our noses which would largely be pure PSR upside we might have to take it. |  | | |
| Davis on 12:54 - May 22 with 1036 views | StNeotsBlue |
| Davis on 12:22 - May 22 by Dubtractor |
Genuinely a but weird, isn't it?
He's been amazing for us since signing, and such an important part of how we play, but like almost every player in our squad has found this season challenging, so a decent chunk of our support can't wait to get rid of him.
Townsend has played about 3 games for us and people have decided he is a better option? Fools all of them.
Nothing against Townsend, who is a decent enough option, but he's not a patch on Davis, and we will have a much much better chance of promotion if Davis stays. [Post edited 22 May 12:26]
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As far as I know I don't know anyone here, but I often find that the (football) views and takes on things, by some of the more vociferous posters, don't reflect the views of people in the real world. |  | | |
| Davis on 12:54 - May 22 with 1031 views | thebooks |
KM has a challenge in setting us up to play as the “better” team rather than the underdog next season.
In no world does that involve moving on a player who got 18 assists last time round. Madness! |  | | |
| Davis on 12:55 - May 22 with 1007 views | Vaughan8 |
People have such short memories. He was one of, if not the, most important player in the Championship last time.
This season has been rubbish for everyone really. You'd hope he'd learn from this season and improve if we get back up (or if he moves). I like Townsend too but Davis would be a massive loss if he went. | | | |
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