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Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… 07:59 - Jul 27 with 23859 viewsKieran_Knows

… £20m offer in to Middlesbrough for him and we are offering £35k a week to Hackney himself.

Edit - also mentions that whilst he is yet to be tempted by the offer as he wants a Prem move, but no Prem club is offering what we are in terms of fee and wages.
[Post edited 27 Jul 8:06]

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Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 13:36 - Jul 27 with 3585 viewsHerbivore

Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 13:33 - Jul 27 by nrb1985

Far more daft to suggest neither one of brum nor saints are going to be our rivals next season I’d argue.

If it’s within Phil’s rules, very happy to have a charity bet to a charity of your choosing that at least one of those teams are challenging top two with us.


I've not suggested that. I've said we don't know who will be challenging. Either or both of them might challenge, but they also might not. We don't know how Brum will step up yet, we don't know if Still will turn around a Saints side who were woeful last season. It's daft to describe an opening and second fixtures as a 6 pointer, it's ridiculous hyperbole.
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Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 13:43 - Jul 27 with 3487 viewsnrb1985

Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 13:36 - Jul 27 by Herbivore

I've not suggested that. I've said we don't know who will be challenging. Either or both of them might challenge, but they also might not. We don't know how Brum will step up yet, we don't know if Still will turn around a Saints side who were woeful last season. It's daft to describe an opening and second fixtures as a 6 pointer, it's ridiculous hyperbole.
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So it’s both ridiculous, daft and hyperbole but neither do you rule it out…erm, ok.

Have a great Sunday mate. Enjoyable as ever.
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Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 13:46 - Jul 27 with 3436 viewsBlue_Heath

Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 13:36 - Jul 27 by Herbivore

I've not suggested that. I've said we don't know who will be challenging. Either or both of them might challenge, but they also might not. We don't know how Brum will step up yet, we don't know if Still will turn around a Saints side who were woeful last season. It's daft to describe an opening and second fixtures as a 6 pointer, it's ridiculous hyperbole.
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A woeful Saints side that took 4 points from us, be worrying if he does turn them around.
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Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 13:47 - Jul 27 with 3429 viewsnrb1985

Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 12:18 - Jul 27 by bluesbrothers

Actually heard another Boro players name (who we’ve been linked with before… as usual) but highly doubt they’d sell both to us especially as he’s not been there long. I’m
Not convinced we need to replace him


Having a left footer able to cut in like Clarke and Jadon on the other side I think is essential. Gives us another dimension and changes the angle of attack when plan A isn’t effective.

Omari got two goals out of nothing against Hull like that. I think having that option is really important personally.
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Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 13:55 - Jul 27 with 3317 viewsParky

Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 13:15 - Jul 27 by PhilTWTD

Depends on what Premier League interest there might be. Player still taking his time before making a decision.


How long do we wait though?
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Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 13:56 - Jul 27 with 3293 viewsStokieBlue

Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 13:55 - Jul 27 by Parky

How long do we wait though?


Why not wait?

KM clearly wants him, we will have other options later but he seems to be first choice.

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Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 14:01 - Jul 27 with 3217 viewsnrb1985

Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 13:56 - Jul 27 by StokieBlue

Why not wait?

KM clearly wants him, we will have other options later but he seems to be first choice.

SB


Probably this is where I land too.

But as I’ve been ridiculed for elsewhere in this thread, going into those first two games potentially with not much on the bench in CM or up front does worry me.
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Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 14:02 - Jul 27 with 3216 viewsJbarrrell

Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 13:47 - Jul 27 by nrb1985

Having a left footer able to cut in like Clarke and Jadon on the other side I think is essential. Gives us another dimension and changes the angle of attack when plan A isn’t effective.

Omari got two goals out of nothing against Hull like that. I think having that option is really important personally.


Not that it’s the clubs search criteria but I would tend to agree. Can’t help but think we may go for Ben doak if we so deem another winger is req.
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Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 14:06 - Jul 27 with 3125 viewsStokieBlue

Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 14:01 - Jul 27 by nrb1985

Probably this is where I land too.

But as I’ve been ridiculed for elsewhere in this thread, going into those first two games potentially with not much on the bench in CM or up front does worry me.


We will have a younger CM on loan from the PL before that match I imagine.

SB

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Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 14:16 - Jul 27 with 2960 viewsberkstractorboy

Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 14:01 - Jul 27 by nrb1985

Probably this is where I land too.

But as I’ve been ridiculed for elsewhere in this thread, going into those first two games potentially with not much on the bench in CM or up front does worry me.


I am sure it worries most of us, including me. Just we still have time and we have little idea of what is happening. We should trust the club, I think they have earnt that over last 3 years.

If we panic buy to fill a whole we are all equally moaning. I am going with KW that for us to bid there is something in this and the player/agent must have given positive indications or we would have moved on already.
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Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 14:43 - Jul 27 with 2679 viewsHerbivore

Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 13:46 - Jul 27 by Blue_Heath

A woeful Saints side that took 4 points from us, be worrying if he does turn them around.


We took 4 points off Chelsea. Looking at isolated games isn't very helpful when appraising a side.

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Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 14:44 - Jul 27 with 2649 viewsHerbivore

Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 13:43 - Jul 27 by nrb1985

So it’s both ridiculous, daft and hyperbole but neither do you rule it out…erm, ok.

Have a great Sunday mate. Enjoyable as ever.
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I'm not sure what you're struggling with here. The idea Brum and Saints might challenge is not daft or hyperbole, saying our first and second fixtures of the season against them are 6 pointers is daft and hyperbole.

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Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 14:47 - Jul 27 with 2610 viewsPhilTWTD

Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 10:55 - Jul 27 by tonybied

I've had a quick snout around on a Middlesbrough forum, and they seem to be in denial that he would even consider us as an option. It sounds similar to some of the noises being made here about the possibility of Omari going to Brentford when the first whispers of their interest emerged.


Think they're happy to sell to us for £20m.
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Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 15:26 - Jul 27 with 2223 viewsurbanpenguin

Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 14:47 - Jul 27 by PhilTWTD

Think they're happy to sell to us for £20m.


I would have thought (hoped) that this is more £13-15m going to 20 after promotion, games, assists etc?
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Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 15:29 - Jul 27 with 2187 viewsfootball

Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 15:26 - Jul 27 by urbanpenguin

I would have thought (hoped) that this is more £13-15m going to 20 after promotion, games, assists etc?


Will, I’m sure Ashton will have structured it in a good way to secure his services and make it appealing
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Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 15:33 - Jul 27 with 2137 viewsPhilTWTD

Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 15:26 - Jul 27 by urbanpenguin

I would have thought (hoped) that this is more £13-15m going to 20 after promotion, games, assists etc?


I suspect some of that is add-ons, but not sure of the make up of it at the moment.
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Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 15:38 - Jul 27 with 2058 viewsjoey_itfc

Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 15:33 - Jul 27 by PhilTWTD

I suspect some of that is add-ons, but not sure of the make up of it at the moment.


Phil, what’s the likelihood of us keeping Omari?
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Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 15:52 - Jul 27 with 1939 viewsPhilTWTD

Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 15:38 - Jul 27 by joey_itfc

Phil, what’s the likelihood of us keeping Omari?


Not very high, as I understand it. I suspect there's an element of each side waiting for the other to blink on the deal at the moment.
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Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 15:53 - Jul 27 with 1909 viewsPhilTWTD

Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 13:55 - Jul 27 by Parky

How long do we wait though?


I would guess it probably won't stretch on too much now. Seems to be coming to a head, assuming no Premier League side comes in.
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Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 16:19 - Jul 27 with 1589 viewschenners17

Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 15:52 - Jul 27 by PhilTWTD

Not very high, as I understand it. I suspect there's an element of each side waiting for the other to blink on the deal at the moment.


Do you think we replace omari assuming we get the valuation we are after?

Purchase or loan, rak sakyi / doak
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Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 16:23 - Jul 27 with 1527 viewsBlueStreak

Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 13:56 - Jul 27 by StokieBlue

Why not wait?

KM clearly wants him, we will have other options later but he seems to be first choice.

SB


Because what if we take it to the last day, don’t get him and have no time to get a replacement in? Waste of a summer and leaves us underprepared. Not like we don’t have form for this either.
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Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 16:24 - Jul 27 with 1504 viewschenners17

Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 15:53 - Jul 27 by PhilTWTD

I would guess it probably won't stretch on too much now. Seems to be coming to a head, assuming no Premier League side comes in.


So hoping we come to a conclusion either way this week then?
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Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 16:25 - Jul 27 with 1472 viewsStokieBlue

Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 16:23 - Jul 27 by BlueStreak

Because what if we take it to the last day, don’t get him and have no time to get a replacement in? Waste of a summer and leaves us underprepared. Not like we don’t have form for this either.


Who said the last day?

You've changed the context.

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Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 16:29 - Jul 27 with 1411 viewsPhilTWTD

Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 16:24 - Jul 27 by chenners17

So hoping we come to a conclusion either way this week then?


Am guessing so. The story this morning looks like a last throw of the dice to attract a Premier League club. Other than that proving a success, I think it will happen.
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Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 16:33 - Jul 27 with 1321 viewsPhilTWTD

Hayden Hackney - Alan Nixon… on 16:19 - Jul 27 by chenners17

Do you think we replace omari assuming we get the valuation we are after?

Purchase or loan, rak sakyi / doak


Would assume so, Rak Sakyi is a decent shout for a potential target given our previous interest.
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