| Hackney has rejected Ipswich 14:07 - Aug 2 with 10054 views | SitfcB |
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| Hackney has rejected Ipswich on 15:23 - Aug 2 with 1590 views | Steve_M |
| Hackney has rejected Ipswich on 15:13 - Aug 2 by Churchman |
The old phrase was ‘show pony’ for a player like him. It may be that the Premier League was just too tough for him and he’ll tear up the Championship, should he come here. But I would not like to rely on that or him, given his physical fragility.
We are short in midfield in addition to a back up for Hirst, a replacement for disgruntled Woolfenden and possibly for Hutchinson who is surely on his way out before the end of the month, sadly.
Lots of work to do, but still nearly a month of the window to go. Shame the season starts next week as if there’s too much change we are back to the early season bedding in nonsense of Cooks time and last season. |
I think that overstates the case a bit, but I ended the season with more questions over Cajuste - particularly with regard to his fitness and tackling - than in about November.
I do think he would be a good signing and much more effective in the Championship but only for 30 games or so. Third CM about right.
Hackney turning the move down is very disappointing and this is not turning into a good Summer for us with the first match six days away. Even if Cajuste joins one CM and at least one striker are essential. |  |
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| Hackney has rejected Ipswich on 15:24 - Aug 2 with 1577 views | burnbudgiesburn |
I think he's a superb player, would have complemented our midfield and gutted he won't be joining ( although I always feared that was the case)
One of the best talents outside the PL.
We move on. No need to sound like a jilted lover over it.
I am surprised it dragged on this long and we showed interest for this long if we had no indication from his end he would be willing to join. It may be that we've been convieniently used by his agent to push for a PL move. |  | | |
| Hackney has rejected Ipswich on 15:27 - Aug 2 with 1512 views | strikalite |
| Hackney has rejected Ipswich on 15:22 - Aug 2 by Churchman |
I think Humphreys might well be good enough from what I saw of him at Wycombe. He was far too good for League One so why can’t he step up? Deserves a chance anyway. |
With better players around him too, this was/is the whole idea of sending him out on loan.. |  | | |
| Hackney has rejected Ipswich on 15:28 - Aug 2 with 1486 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Hackney has rejected Ipswich on 15:13 - Aug 2 by Churchman |
The old phrase was ‘show pony’ for a player like him. It may be that the Premier League was just too tough for him and he’ll tear up the Championship, should he come here. But I would not like to rely on that or him, given his physical fragility.
We are short in midfield in addition to a back up for Hirst, a replacement for disgruntled Woolfenden and possibly for Hutchinson who is surely on his way out before the end of the month, sadly.
Lots of work to do, but still nearly a month of the window to go. Shame the season starts next week as if there’s too much change we are back to the early season bedding in nonsense of Cooks time and last season. |
So you haven’t heard of Hackney and Cajuste is a show pony? Top footballing IQ this morning!
Do you remember how a lot of our attacking moves started last year? He’d turn someone in midfield and release someone. So many examples of it including ones that led to penalties and goals. One assist is contextually a laughable stat. |  | | |
| Hackney has rejected Ipswich on 15:31 - Aug 2 with 1444 views | Churchman |
| Hackney has rejected Ipswich on 15:23 - Aug 2 by Clutch |
He really was for me, and I watched every game last season. But that's opinions for you! |
I only saw some of the away games on tv so maybe he tore up the opposition in those, but I did attend all bar a couple of the home games and stand by what I said. Bar Leicester at home, 20 minutes was the max our midfield lasted before it disappeared, including him.
Yep, it’s all opinions and differing ones are always interesting and fun. |  | | |
| Hackney has rejected Ipswich on 15:35 - Aug 2 with 1387 views | DanTheMan |
| Hackney has rejected Ipswich on 15:23 - Aug 2 by Steve_M |
I think that overstates the case a bit, but I ended the season with more questions over Cajuste - particularly with regard to his fitness and tackling - than in about November.
I do think he would be a good signing and much more effective in the Championship but only for 30 games or so. Third CM about right.
Hackney turning the move down is very disappointing and this is not turning into a good Summer for us with the first match six days away. Even if Cajuste joins one CM and at least one striker are essential. |
This is the risk we play when we seem to spend large parts of the window focussed on one player. |  |
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| Hackney has rejected Ipswich on 15:39 - Aug 2 with 1312 views | RegencyBlue |
| Hackney has rejected Ipswich on 15:22 - Aug 2 by Churchman |
I think Humphreys might well be good enough from what I saw of him at Wycombe. He was far too good for League One so why can’t he step up? Deserves a chance anyway. |
Well McKenna presumably doesn’t think so or we wouldn’t have been willing to pay up to £20m for Hackney! |  | | |
| Hackney has rejected Ipswich on 15:44 - Aug 2 with 1239 views | Churchman |
| Hackney has rejected Ipswich on 15:28 - Aug 2 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
So you haven’t heard of Hackney and Cajuste is a show pony? Top footballing IQ this morning!
Do you remember how a lot of our attacking moves started last year? He’d turn someone in midfield and release someone. So many examples of it including ones that led to penalties and goals. One assist is contextually a laughable stat. |
Whoever said I had any footballing IQ? Not me.
I saw a couple of M’boro’s games on tv though and didn’t notice him as he powered them to 10th in the Championship. Maybe he was held back by rubbish team mates and a hapless manager but this summer is the first I’ve heard of him. Anyway, he’s history. Forget him. When he’s tearing it up for Liverpool, Leeds or Burnley I’ll happily put my hand up.
Cajuste - see other posts. A lot of our attacking moves? We hardly had any and I doubt many came through him. Goals for 36 against 82. It’s all opinions, but he was an integral part of a midfield that existed on paper only. I wouldn’t have minded so much if he’d have provided a bit of cover for the defence, but nope.
Just my minority view and should he honour us with his presence I of course dearly hope he rips up the Championship. | | | |
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| Hackney has rejected Ipswich on 15:47 - Aug 2 with 1180 views | StokieBlue |
| Hackney has rejected Ipswich on 15:44 - Aug 2 by Churchman |
Whoever said I had any footballing IQ? Not me.
I saw a couple of M’boro’s games on tv though and didn’t notice him as he powered them to 10th in the Championship. Maybe he was held back by rubbish team mates and a hapless manager but this summer is the first I’ve heard of him. Anyway, he’s history. Forget him. When he’s tearing it up for Liverpool, Leeds or Burnley I’ll happily put my hand up.
Cajuste - see other posts. A lot of our attacking moves? We hardly had any and I doubt many came through him. Goals for 36 against 82. It’s all opinions, but he was an integral part of a midfield that existed on paper only. I wouldn’t have minded so much if he’d have provided a bit of cover for the defence, but nope.
Just my minority view and should he honour us with his presence I of course dearly hope he rips up the Championship. |
Hackney has played nearly 100 times in the Championship, 13 times for England U21 and was part of the squad for the Euros they just one. He provided and assist in the semi-final.
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| Hackney has rejected Ipswich on 15:48 - Aug 2 with 1158 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Hackney has rejected Ipswich on 15:24 - Aug 2 by burnbudgiesburn |
I think he's a superb player, would have complemented our midfield and gutted he won't be joining ( although I always feared that was the case)
One of the best talents outside the PL.
We move on. No need to sound like a jilted lover over it.
I am surprised it dragged on this long and we showed interest for this long if we had no indication from his end he would be willing to join. It may be that we've been convieniently used by his agent to push for a PL move. |
Worth a go, but it’s been a bit of a distraction. It was always going to be a long shot, so I hope we’ve also been talking to others (besides Cajuste) behind the scenes. |  |
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| Hackney has rejected Ipswich on 15:50 - Aug 2 with 1120 views | Churchman |
| Hackney has rejected Ipswich on 15:47 - Aug 2 by StokieBlue |
Hackney has played nearly 100 times in the Championship, 13 times for England U21 and was part of the squad for the Euros they just one. He provided and assist in the semi-final.
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Fair enough. Then he might well be right in refusing us and waiting for a better, opportunity/ Premier League club. | | | |
| Hackney has rejected Ipswich on 15:55 - Aug 2 with 1035 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Hackney has rejected Ipswich on 15:44 - Aug 2 by Churchman |
Whoever said I had any footballing IQ? Not me.
I saw a couple of M’boro’s games on tv though and didn’t notice him as he powered them to 10th in the Championship. Maybe he was held back by rubbish team mates and a hapless manager but this summer is the first I’ve heard of him. Anyway, he’s history. Forget him. When he’s tearing it up for Liverpool, Leeds or Burnley I’ll happily put my hand up.
Cajuste - see other posts. A lot of our attacking moves? We hardly had any and I doubt many came through him. Goals for 36 against 82. It’s all opinions, but he was an integral part of a midfield that existed on paper only. I wouldn’t have minded so much if he’d have provided a bit of cover for the defence, but nope.
Just my minority view and should he honour us with his presence I of course dearly hope he rips up the Championship. |
Delap Pen against Chelsea, watch that phase of play
Delap goal at Bournemouth
The first 10 mins of Spurs at home
The Philogene chance at the start against Palace away
There’s just a few of the top of my head, there were plenty more. He had the ability to turn a player in midfield and release Davis or one of an attacking option. You should be very excited about what he can do in the Championship.
We were getting over run because we had no physicality and Morsy wasn’t up to that level against elite opposition, we had a bunch of lightweight 10s in front of him as well. It was a recipe for disaster playing a 2 in there with our personnel really.
Would be a top player next season and a decent squad option if we go up. [Post edited 2 Aug 15:58]
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| Hackney has rejected Ipswich on 16:13 - Aug 2 with 912 views | baxterbasics |
Hope he never gets his big move now. And that he gets booed big time at PR. Then disappears into obscurity. |  |
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| Hackney has rejected Ipswich on 16:18 - Aug 2 with 883 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| Hackney has rejected Ipswich on 16:13 - Aug 2 by baxterbasics |
Hope he never gets his big move now. And that he gets booed big time at PR. Then disappears into obscurity. |
Think we would look ultra-tinpot if we boo the bloke for not jointing us.
And let’s face it he won’t be playing for Boro by then anyway |  |
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| Hackney has rejected Ipswich on 16:19 - Aug 2 with 869 views | Swailsey |
| Hackney has rejected Ipswich on 14:44 - Aug 2 by shady |
A man gets on a private jet to go to the top restaurant, renowned for having the best chef. So he has a look around but they’ve got the builders in. Then he hears his mate that’s there may be off.
Furthermore, it must be said that a lot depends on the WAG. Whilst boys are happy to check out new places and make new friends. These gold diggers are often more conservative and will lose all there social standing. I feel a small package needs to be offered to tricky wags; a welcome committee of local wags and maybe a boutique or nail bar or coffee shop; even a job at the local hospital. |
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| Who said: "Colin Healy made Cesc Fabregas look like Colin Healy"? | We miss you TLA |
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| Hackney has rejected Ipswich on 16:21 - Aug 2 with 854 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Hackney has rejected Ipswich on 15:48 - Aug 2 by Swansea_Blue |
Worth a go, but it’s been a bit of a distraction. It was always going to be a long shot, so I hope we’ve also been talking to others (besides Cajuste) behind the scenes. |
I really hope it was not “always going to be a long shot”.
That would reflect extremely poorly us if true. | | | |
| Hackney has rejected Ipswich on 16:31 - Aug 2 with 795 views | franz_tyson |
| Hackney has rejected Ipswich on 15:28 - Aug 2 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
So you haven’t heard of Hackney and Cajuste is a show pony? Top footballing IQ this morning!
Do you remember how a lot of our attacking moves started last year? He’d turn someone in midfield and release someone. So many examples of it including ones that led to penalties and goals. One assist is contextually a laughable stat. |
I've no idea where your footballing IQ was last year.... but we were bloody atrocious for large parts of it. We weren't particularly an attacking threat... so that answers that one.
But another part of Cajuste's job was to win midfield battles and protect the defence. I don't think he did much there. He'll be expected to do that in the Championship.
I just think we had so little joy last season that fans remember a particularly wonderful Cajuste turn or stride forward in a season of mostly misery just to be positive. I do think he's a show pony.... but I hope I'm wrong and he shows his class.
Give me Mass and Morsy. Two genuine workhorses who could put their foot in and still were good footballers without being too showy. | | | |
| Hackney has rejected Ipswich on 16:38 - Aug 2 with 727 views | chicoazul |
| Hackney has rejected Ipswich on 15:23 - Aug 2 by Steve_M |
I think that overstates the case a bit, but I ended the season with more questions over Cajuste - particularly with regard to his fitness and tackling - than in about November.
I do think he would be a good signing and much more effective in the Championship but only for 30 games or so. Third CM about right.
Hackney turning the move down is very disappointing and this is not turning into a good Summer for us with the first match six days away. Even if Cajuste joins one CM and at least one striker are essential. |
Will this be yet another summer window where we don’t secure our top CF target? |  |
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| Hackney has rejected Ipswich on 16:42 - Aug 2 with 689 views | itfcsuth |
Obviously disappointing, as a good player - but don’t get it twisted, Cajuste is on a different level to him. If we secure the Cajuste deal, at half the price, it’s an outstanding and frankly a ridiculous piece of business!
Matusiwa and Cajuste is a better, more physical and technical partnership than Matusiwa and Hackney.
Still need another, ideally a experienced cover for Matusiwa, who will play a sporadic role. [Post edited 2 Aug 22:39]
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| Hackney has rejected Ipswich on 16:43 - Aug 2 with 672 views | FromReuserWithLove |
| Hackney has rejected Ipswich on 16:38 - Aug 2 by chicoazul |
Will this be yet another summer window where we don’t secure our top CF target? |
our 'top' target? Think was about 5 targets ago. |  | | |
| Hackney has rejected Ipswich on 16:44 - Aug 2 with 659 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Hackney has rejected Ipswich on 16:31 - Aug 2 by franz_tyson |
I've no idea where your footballing IQ was last year.... but we were bloody atrocious for large parts of it. We weren't particularly an attacking threat... so that answers that one.
But another part of Cajuste's job was to win midfield battles and protect the defence. I don't think he did much there. He'll be expected to do that in the Championship.
I just think we had so little joy last season that fans remember a particularly wonderful Cajuste turn or stride forward in a season of mostly misery just to be positive. I do think he's a show pony.... but I hope I'm wrong and he shows his class.
Give me Mass and Morsy. Two genuine workhorses who could put their foot in and still were good footballers without being too showy. |
So that answers that one? Err what? I provided some very clear examples of when he sprung attacks for us from midfield and why that should excite us a level down.
Are you saying he should have made us ultra attacking front foot team in the Premier League with the personnel around him? Of course we got overrun with an aging Morsy and a bunch of lightweight players up the pitch.
To be honest I’m not really going to get into a football debate with someone who wants Mass over Cajuste to start the 2025 season.
We’ve signed our defensive central midfielder and will have a lot more of the attacking play next year a level down. If we went up he will be a squad player most likely. | | | |
| Hackney has rejected Ipswich on 16:44 - Aug 2 with 651 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Hackney has rejected Ipswich on 16:21 - Aug 2 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
I really hope it was not “always going to be a long shot”.
That would reflect extremely poorly us if true. |
I don’t see how. If there’s any truth in his links to the PL, it’s more likely he’d go there. He’s supposedly one of the best young English midfielders coming through. There’s no shame in us for trying to get him.
Anyway, we’re not done yet. This could all be agent trying to push for somewhere else but he could still end here. Although looking unlikely. | |
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| Hackney has rejected Ipswich on 16:51 - Aug 2 with 597 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Hackney has rejected Ipswich on 16:44 - Aug 2 by Swansea_Blue |
I don’t see how. If there’s any truth in his links to the PL, it’s more likely he’d go there. He’s supposedly one of the best young English midfielders coming through. There’s no shame in us for trying to get him.
Anyway, we’re not done yet. This could all be agent trying to push for somewhere else but he could still end here. Although looking unlikely. |
Because of how aggressively we chased him. If that was a long shot then the time and effort would have been best spent elsewhere on other targets. He was in Suffolk Thursday and we are 6 days from the season.
I think brushing it off as a “long shot” makes it look worse for the Ashton and co.
For the record I don’t think it was, was ambitious but very close to getting it over the line it appears. Either that if we have been played to drum up PL interest, which would obviously be bad. It clearly is however a blow for the summer window. Would have been so exciting to see him under McKenna who was clearly desperate for it to happen. | | | |
| Hackney has rejected Ipswich on 16:52 - Aug 2 with 590 views | stiff_talking |
| Hackney has rejected Ipswich on 14:39 - Aug 2 by Churchman |
Well the minted lamb burger off the specials the other month wasn’t bad.
Edit: and the large fish and chips last month was pretty good too. [Post edited 2 Aug 14:39]
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| Hackney has rejected Ipswich on 16:55 - Aug 2 with 543 views | franz_tyson |
| Hackney has rejected Ipswich on 16:44 - Aug 2 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
So that answers that one? Err what? I provided some very clear examples of when he sprung attacks for us from midfield and why that should excite us a level down.
Are you saying he should have made us ultra attacking front foot team in the Premier League with the personnel around him? Of course we got overrun with an aging Morsy and a bunch of lightweight players up the pitch.
To be honest I’m not really going to get into a football debate with someone who wants Mass over Cajuste to start the 2025 season.
We’ve signed our defensive central midfielder and will have a lot more of the attacking play next year a level down. If we went up he will be a squad player most likely. |
You didn't at all answer anything - you just mentioned one aspect of his game which was his turn and drive out of midfield. But when he's broken the lines, he's still got to have that ability to put a inch perfect pass ( like Broady) through or even hit the target. 1 assist, 1 goal. It is actually meaningfull.
For a midfielder in his position, he's got to have more to his game. He never controlled a game, I never saw him as an enforcer, as a makeshift defender, someone who could spray 50 yard balls. So what apart from the turn and drive can he do? Or has Matusiwa got to do all his dirty work and running for him.
Sorry, not a fan.... but want to be wrong.
And I only mentioned Mass and Morsy because in the Championship season they both did a certain job for us week after week and I don't see Cajuste doing that. Morsy/Mass are well into their 30s and their time is up. I'd still take Morsy over Cajuste, though, for this season. [Post edited 2 Aug 16:58]
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