| What a waste of our taxes on 20:42 - Aug 10 with 562 views | NthQldITFC |
| What a waste of our taxes on 19:59 - Aug 10 by redrickstuhaart |
They are doing their job. The alternative is to break their basic code of office and to lose their jobs potentially.
If you have police deciding which laws are right or wrong, we are screwed. Y |
Yup. I have some sympathy with the OB here, with the massive caveat that they have to carry out their arrests gently and with respect and understanding. [Post edited 10 Aug 20:43]
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| What a waste of our taxes on 20:45 - Aug 10 with 549 views | Herbivore |
| What a waste of our taxes on 19:55 - Aug 10 by lowhouseblue |
and yet you never have any answers. you get challenged - you post insults. it's seriously pathetic ..... mate. |
They aren't insults, I'm describing your behaviour. Others have pointed it out too in this very thread. Maybe reflect on that. |  |
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| What a waste of our taxes on 20:46 - Aug 10 with 549 views | redrickstuhaart |
| What a waste of our taxes on 20:31 - Aug 10 by ClareBlue |
You can protest against the legislation without breaking it. More subtle ways to make the point without having a placard supporting a proscribed organisation. Plenty of young people's lives are at risk of being significantly altered after yesterday. Travel bans, jobs they will not be able to do, restrictions on working in all legal professions, etc etc. I wouldn't say half of then know the consequences of what they were involved in yesterday |
Most of those arrested were older. And they were doing it for that very reason. Watch the film-its shameful.
But actually, the best way of protesting against such absurdity is highlighting the absurdity. |  | | |
| What a waste of our taxes on 21:15 - Aug 10 with 508 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| What a waste of our taxes on 19:17 - Aug 10 by lowhouseblue |
but clearly not an argument that you can counter. you can label it pejoratively copying the insults used by others but you can't actually engage with the point being made. editorialising rather then debating. i was responding to someone who claimed that 'standing by' and being 'silent' in the face of an humanitarian crisis is unacceptable - and i've shown cases where lots of people who post constantly about gaza stand by and are silent. i'm pointing to inconsistency and hypocrisy. calling me names doesn't respond to that point. |
Bore off. |  |
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| What a waste of our taxes on 21:18 - Aug 10 with 499 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| What a waste of our taxes on 19:55 - Aug 10 by lowhouseblue |
and yet you never have any answers. you get challenged - you post insults. it's seriously pathetic ..... mate. |
Lol you've gone down the mate road...the state if you, well done on getting your party back!
Edit ...I see it was a mate off !! [Post edited 10 Aug 21:21]
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| What a waste of our taxes on 21:23 - Aug 10 with 472 views | Swansea_Blue |
| What a waste of our taxes on 20:42 - Aug 10 by NthQldITFC |
Yup. I have some sympathy with the OB here, with the massive caveat that they have to carry out their arrests gently and with respect and understanding. [Post edited 10 Aug 20:43]
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They’ve been pit in an impossible position by Yvette Cooper. Palestine Action clearly aren’t engaged in terrorist activities (at least from what I’ve seen, but maybe I’ve missed them bombing communities). I’m not surprised people are resisting. It’ll be interesting to see how the appeal against proscribing goes. |  |
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| What a waste of our taxes on 21:26 - Aug 10 with 463 views | noggin |
| What a waste of our taxes on 21:23 - Aug 10 by Swansea_Blue |
They’ve been pit in an impossible position by Yvette Cooper. Palestine Action clearly aren’t engaged in terrorist activities (at least from what I’ve seen, but maybe I’ve missed them bombing communities). I’m not surprised people are resisting. It’ll be interesting to see how the appeal against proscribing goes. |
"It’ll be interesting to see how the appeal against proscribing goes."
Even more interesting to see how the justice system deals with peaceful protesters. |  |
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| What a waste of our taxes on 21:50 - Aug 10 with 411 views | lowhouseblue |
| What a waste of our taxes on 20:45 - Aug 10 by Herbivore |
They aren't insults, I'm describing your behaviour. Others have pointed it out too in this very thread. Maybe reflect on that. |
never any answers. you're challenged so you attack the person rather than engage with the arguments. for anyone who's out of the sixth form it's pathetic. indeed, in any decent sixth form they'd take you aside and explain how debate is supposed to work. |  |
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| What a waste of our taxes on 22:05 - Aug 10 with 397 views | redrickstuhaart |
| What a waste of our taxes on 21:26 - Aug 10 by noggin |
"It’ll be interesting to see how the appeal against proscribing goes."
Even more interesting to see how the justice system deals with peaceful protesters. |
The justice system will have to work within the established sentencing guidelines. And will assess the proscribing issue on proper legal principles for a Judicial Review. Broadly, was the decision reached through proper processes and / or is it patently unreasonable. | | | |
| What a waste of our taxes on 22:20 - Aug 10 with 371 views | Swansea_Blue |
| What a waste of our taxes on 21:26 - Aug 10 by noggin |
"It’ll be interesting to see how the appeal against proscribing goes."
Even more interesting to see how the justice system deals with peaceful protesters. |
Key will be what happens if PA’s challenge is successful. What happens to the protestors then? If they’re still penalised, I predict a riot. But I’ve no idea what would happen to them in that situation (I doubt it would be good, as we’ve already seen in the case of convicted climate protestors. | |
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| What a waste of our taxes on 22:20 - Aug 10 with 371 views | DJR |
| What a waste of our taxes on 19:18 - Aug 10 by brazil1982 |
"Sudan is now the world’s largest and most devastating humanitarian crisis, the head of the UN Children’s Fund (UNICEF) warned" (UN).
Never much of this on the news, or dare I say, copied and pasted from the Guardian in here. Where's the outrage? |
The problem with Sudan is that it is an inter-ethnic civil war so it is very difficult to solve. There are also no Westen interests involved. The result is that it gets precious little publicity unless (like me) you listen to the World Service on a regular basis.
There are some appalling things that have gone on there but the contrast with Gaza is that people are not trapped in one small area, and Western nations aren't arming and siding with one side.
On the other hand, US and European cuts to aid (something I have highlighted on TWTD several times) will impact Sudan. Sadly, very few people in this country seem concerned about cuts to foreign aid.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/humanitarian-system-struggles-fill-us-void-sudan [Post edited 10 Aug 22:26]
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| What a waste of our taxes on 22:23 - Aug 10 with 363 views | Herbivore |
| What a waste of our taxes on 21:50 - Aug 10 by lowhouseblue |
never any answers. you're challenged so you attack the person rather than engage with the arguments. for anyone who's out of the sixth form it's pathetic. indeed, in any decent sixth form they'd take you aside and explain how debate is supposed to work. |
No, I just think you're dishonest and disingenuous and I can't be arsed to deal with your constant misrepresentations and distortions. I'm not alone in that view and I'm confident it's an accurate perception of how you engage on here. Why would I want to debate with someone who conducts themself like that? What would be the point? | |
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| What a waste of our taxes on 22:23 - Aug 10 with 365 views | DJR |
| What a waste of our taxes on 22:20 - Aug 10 by Swansea_Blue |
Key will be what happens if PA’s challenge is successful. What happens to the protestors then? If they’re still penalised, I predict a riot. But I’ve no idea what would happen to them in that situation (I doubt it would be good, as we’ve already seen in the case of convicted climate protestors. |
My hunch is that, whilst charges may be laid, no prosecutions will be brought until the challenge has been heard. | | | |
| What a waste of our taxes on 22:54 - Aug 10 with 326 views | BLUEGOLD |
| What a waste of our taxes on 15:39 - Aug 10 by ArnoldMoorhen |
Somebody from Armagh should be able to tell the difference between a terrorist and a nun with a sign. |
Not this poster who lacks both empathy and intelligence | | | |
| What a waste of our taxes on 23:40 - Aug 10 with 310 views | Bigalhunter |
| What a waste of our taxes on 22:54 - Aug 10 by BLUEGOLD |
Not this poster who lacks both empathy and intelligence |
It will eventually end up following its predecessors into that inevitable and ever increasing right-leaning pit of wilful ignorance and shame, whilst the usual backing singers whisper foul and petition for reinstatement.
Sweardown, peace and love and at least three downvotes from sympathisers with usernames that begin with ‘b’ or ‘g’
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| What a waste of our taxes on 23:44 - Aug 10 with 290 views | positivity |
| What a waste of our taxes on 20:42 - Aug 10 by NthQldITFC |
Yup. I have some sympathy with the OB here, with the massive caveat that they have to carry out their arrests gently and with respect and understanding. [Post edited 10 Aug 20:43]
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in this case, i have some sympathy, but not in the over-reach exhibited elsewhere, where "free palestine" and "stop the genocide" have been conflated with supporting palestine action by some police officers! | |
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| What a waste of our taxes on 04:14 - Aug 11 with 215 views | Benters |
| What a waste of our taxes on 13:59 - Aug 10 by LeoMuff |
Because Israel won’t let them in ? |
I very much doubt that many of them would be willing to go over there and fight for the country they seem to love. |  |
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| What a waste of our taxes on 05:47 - Aug 11 with 168 views | noggin |
| What a waste of our taxes on 04:14 - Aug 11 by Benters |
I very much doubt that many of them would be willing to go over there and fight for the country they seem to love. |
The words of Benters, the soldier. | |
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| What a waste of our taxes on 07:54 - Aug 11 with 108 views | Herbivore |
| What a waste of our taxes on 04:14 - Aug 11 by Benters |
I very much doubt that many of them would be willing to go over there and fight for the country they seem to love. |
You have a very high bar for other people to show their support, Benters, expecting people who are against genocide in Palestine to actually fly to Israel, take up arms, and fight the IDF. Clearly them protesting and risking arrest isn't enough for a man of your high standards.
I'm curious, since you talk about how much you love Blighty and how much you care about its "indigenous people", what are some of the things you do to show that you love Blighty and its "indigenous people" so much? I'm expecting some impressive stuff given the high bar you've set for others. I'm sure it can't just be limited to constantly wanging on about foreigners and voting for things that make the country worse off. [Post edited 11 Aug 8:02]
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| What a waste of our taxes on 07:57 - Aug 11 with 103 views | LeoMuff |
| What a waste of our taxes on 04:14 - Aug 11 by Benters |
I very much doubt that many of them would be willing to go over there and fight for the country they seem to love. |
I’m not sure why you are so reluctant to condemn those calling out killing and starving 65000 people , the vast majority of which have nothing to do with Hamas or Oct 7th.
Surely all decent minded people would be outraged systematic bombing of schools, hospitals, cafes, while stopping all food and medication, killing journists, emergency workers ?
Saying why don’t they go and fight there is embarrassing for you really. As I said above if this was 1938 Europe would you be one of the ones asking why people are upset ? |  |
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| What a waste of our taxes on 08:01 - Aug 11 with 94 views | BLUEGOLD |
| What a waste of our taxes on 07:57 - Aug 11 by LeoMuff |
I’m not sure why you are so reluctant to condemn those calling out killing and starving 65000 people , the vast majority of which have nothing to do with Hamas or Oct 7th.
Surely all decent minded people would be outraged systematic bombing of schools, hospitals, cafes, while stopping all food and medication, killing journists, emergency workers ?
Saying why don’t they go and fight there is embarrassing for you really. As I said above if this was 1938 Europe would you be one of the ones asking why people are upset ? |
He’s just a thick racist old man and I’ve had enough of them frankly
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| What a waste of our taxes on 08:02 - Aug 11 with 89 views | lowhouseblue |
| What a waste of our taxes on 22:23 - Aug 10 by Herbivore |
No, I just think you're dishonest and disingenuous and I can't be arsed to deal with your constant misrepresentations and distortions. I'm not alone in that view and I'm confident it's an accurate perception of how you engage on here. Why would I want to debate with someone who conducts themself like that? What would be the point? |
never ever any answers. just excuses, nonsense and insults. you can't offer reasoned responses to defend your ideas. it's genuinely pathetic - kids in playgrounds respond with more reason than you - "i'm not answering you cos you've been nasty to me and keep tricking me. i know i'm always right but since you've been mean to me i'm not going to tell you why i'm right." in an adult it's intellectual fragility cloaked in ludicrous arrogance. jeez. | |
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| What a waste of our taxes on 08:05 - Aug 11 with 81 views | NthQldITFC |
| What a waste of our taxes on 07:54 - Aug 11 by Herbivore |
You have a very high bar for other people to show their support, Benters, expecting people who are against genocide in Palestine to actually fly to Israel, take up arms, and fight the IDF. Clearly them protesting and risking arrest isn't enough for a man of your high standards.
I'm curious, since you talk about how much you love Blighty and how much you care about its "indigenous people", what are some of the things you do to show that you love Blighty and its "indigenous people" so much? I'm expecting some impressive stuff given the high bar you've set for others. I'm sure it can't just be limited to constantly wanging on about foreigners and voting for things that make the country worse off. [Post edited 11 Aug 8:02]
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Might be too busy swimming the Channel with a knife between his teeth to respond? Or not. | |
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| What a waste of our taxes on 08:21 - Aug 11 with 56 views | Herbivore |
| What a waste of our taxes on 08:02 - Aug 11 by lowhouseblue |
never ever any answers. just excuses, nonsense and insults. you can't offer reasoned responses to defend your ideas. it's genuinely pathetic - kids in playgrounds respond with more reason than you - "i'm not answering you cos you've been nasty to me and keep tricking me. i know i'm always right but since you've been mean to me i'm not going to tell you why i'm right." in an adult it's intellectual fragility cloaked in ludicrous arrogance. jeez. |
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| What a waste of our taxes on 08:22 - Aug 11 with 58 views | blueasfook |
Turning out to support a proscribed organisation ended in arrests? What an absolute shocker. |  |
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