| Still though, some on here claim we only need 1 more centre mid… 20:50 - Aug 12 with 3036 views | Kieran_Knows |
… and we don’t need to sign anyone else.
Miles off it with so much work to do these next couple of weeks. |  |
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| Still though, some on here claim we only need 1 more centre mid… on 23:45 - Aug 12 with 818 views | WeirdFishes |
| Still though, some on here claim we only need 1 more centre mid… on 21:07 - Aug 12 by Whos_blue |
Centre mid?
I'm not sure Humphreys and Barbrook have done too much wrong tonight. |
Is this the standard now? To not do ‘too much wrong’ against bloody Bromley?
And no, Lewis Travis is not the answer. |  |
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| Still though, some on here claim we only need 1 more centre mid… on 23:56 - Aug 12 with 798 views | davblue |
| Still though, some on here claim we only need 1 more centre mid… on 23:03 - Aug 12 by textbackup |
It’s been said, a few times. Just because links aren’t provided…
Next you’ll tell me nobody has ever said AAH is fine as a 3rd choice ST too… |
Do you have any links?
I’m sure I heard you say that AAH should be the number 1 striker for us this season as Hirst is injured a lot. |  | | |
| Still though, some on here claim we only need 1 more centre mid… on 00:10 - Aug 13 with 774 views | Whos_blue |
| Still though, some on here claim we only need 1 more centre mid… on 23:45 - Aug 12 by WeirdFishes |
Is this the standard now? To not do ‘too much wrong’ against bloody Bromley?
And no, Lewis Travis is not the answer. |
I was replying directly to the OP who stated we were "miles off it" in centre midfield in tonight's game.
From what I saw tonight I don't agree that Humphreys and Barbrook were miles off it at all.
I thought they both looked decent throughout.
It's only in games like these that we get to see players like that, so I was happy to see how our younger players are developing.
They were the two that KM chose, so I thought I'd get behind them.
I'm not sure I've mentioned Travis anywhere.
I can't really apologise if my support for two young players has riled you and one or two others in this thread. |  |
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| Still though, some on here claim we only need 1 more centre mid… on 05:53 - Aug 13 with 702 views | Benters |
| Still though, some on here claim we only need 1 more centre mid… on 20:53 - Aug 12 by Wacko |
Every season we're miles off it against lower league teams in the Cup. We lost to Maidstone the same season we got promoted to the Premier League. Cup games mean absolutely nothing |
Yes true but it’s always better to win than lose. |  |
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| Still though, some on here claim we only need 1 more centre mid… on 08:25 - Aug 13 with 645 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Still though, some on here claim we only need 1 more centre mid… on 23:03 - Aug 12 by textbackup |
It’s been said, a few times. Just because links aren’t provided…
Next you’ll tell me nobody has ever said AAH is fine as a 3rd choice ST too… |
Nope, I'm a pretty avid reader of these pages and I haven't seen a single person say all we need is one midfielder.
I have seen one or two say AAH is fine as a 3rd choice ST and I'd disagree with them on that. |  |
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| Still though, some on here claim we only need 1 more centre mid… on 08:28 - Aug 13 with 633 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Still though, some on here claim we only need 1 more centre mid… on 08:25 - Aug 13 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Nope, I'm a pretty avid reader of these pages and I haven't seen a single person say all we need is one midfielder.
I have seen one or two say AAH is fine as a 3rd choice ST and I'd disagree with them on that. |
Hands up, I did say aah was fine for 3rd choice, only really because i don't see 3rd choice being used much and it's difficult enough getting someone to compete with hirst let alone another striker too. |  |
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| Still though, some on here claim we only need 1 more centre mid… on 08:52 - Aug 13 with 598 views | Kieran_Knows |
| Still though, some on here claim we only need 1 more centre mid… on 08:25 - Aug 13 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Nope, I'm a pretty avid reader of these pages and I haven't seen a single person say all we need is one midfielder.
I have seen one or two say AAH is fine as a 3rd choice ST and I'd disagree with them on that. |
I can count on at least one hand the amount of times I have seen that on this forum, but hey, Dollers is an avid reader of this forum and he hasn't seen that said anywhere so he must be right. [Post edited 13 Aug 8:56]
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| Still though, some on here claim we only need 1 more centre mid… on 08:59 - Aug 13 with 568 views | SlimTeaBoy |
| Still though, some on here claim we only need 1 more centre mid… on 08:52 - Aug 13 by Kieran_Knows |
I can count on at least one hand the amount of times I have seen that on this forum, but hey, Dollers is an avid reader of this forum and he hasn't seen that said anywhere so he must be right. [Post edited 13 Aug 8:56]
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Lots of backtracking going on
Ali isn’t fit for purpose as a 3rd choice
This summer has been unbelievably poor |  | | |
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| Still though, some on here claim we only need 1 more centre mid… on 09:41 - Aug 13 with 532 views | dirtyboy |
| Still though, some on here claim we only need 1 more centre mid… on 08:59 - Aug 13 by SlimTeaBoy |
Lots of backtracking going on
Ali isn’t fit for purpose as a 3rd choice
This summer has been unbelievably poor |
I think most people, without the emotion of last night, accept that Ali is an acceptable 3rd choice striker.
Are we forgetting that Hirst also messed up his penalty? He's our main man, our no.9, if anything, he should be taking more of a hit than Ali as you'd expect him to bury that. Ali isn't anywhere near as good as Hirst, so it's expected.
Hirst, Akpom, Ali. Absolutely fine for our 3, knowing that Ali would not, in an ideal world, be used that much.
The whole 'this summer has been poor' line is something I really struggle with too.
If the window closes and this is our squad, i'd agree, but it isn't. Also, getting business done early isn't as easy as some think. PL squads aren't nailed on and the filter down is well known. Human nature in many circumstances is to leave things to the last minute too. Exhaust all the opportunities before having to make a decision.
Disappointed with last night? Yep.
Disappointed with peformance against Birmingham? Yep.
Concerned about season? Not really.
Need Broadhead and Omari situation sorted though, for the sanity of the group, the speculation must be unsettling for all.
Oh, and glad we tried for Hackney, better to have tried and failed to have not tried at all.
You know, you miss 100% of the shots you don't take etc. World class people have that mindset. |  | | |
| Still though, some on here claim we only need 1 more centre mid… on 10:38 - Aug 13 with 479 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Still though, some on here claim we only need 1 more centre mid… on 08:52 - Aug 13 by Kieran_Knows |
I can count on at least one hand the amount of times I have seen that on this forum, but hey, Dollers is an avid reader of this forum and he hasn't seen that said anywhere so he must be right. [Post edited 13 Aug 8:56]
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No need to get arsey. You claim to have seen it, I claim to have not.
You can count them "on at least one hand"? That could be one then?
Feel free to link to any if you have a few in mind. | |
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| Still though, some on here claim we only need 1 more centre mid… on 10:43 - Aug 13 with 455 views | HighgateBlue |
| Still though, some on here claim we only need 1 more centre mid… on 22:51 - Aug 12 by itfcsuth |
There’s still work to be done. Start by getting the Hutchinson nonsense wrapped up, either get a deal done, or buy him a pack of soothers for his throat and he plays.
Then we need to really consider whether we want to go into the full season with J.Clarke and J.Philogene as our options ahead of Broadhead, as I’ve repeated countless times, I know my answer.
Absolutely required:
LB - loan cover
CDM - Matusiwa cover |
I struggle to see what Clarke does that Kyle Edwards couldn't do. Apart from cost lots of money.
If the concern with Broadhead is that he's lightweight, well, Clarke looks like a child. Who thinks he can grow a beard.
The last 18 months of Town squad history can be summed up by:
- spent unimaginable sums of money
- got worse
Maybe it's just a question of trying to recoup some of the funds we've spent, wherever we can. |  | | |
| Still though, some on here claim we only need 1 more centre mid… on 10:51 - Aug 13 with 428 views | Kieran_Knows |
| Still though, some on here claim we only need 1 more centre mid… on 10:38 - Aug 13 by The_Flashing_Smile |
No need to get arsey. You claim to have seen it, I claim to have not.
You can count them "on at least one hand"? That could be one then?
Feel free to link to any if you have a few in mind. |
What are we missing by LongLegs 10 Aug 22:26I genuinely think we are one top quality CM away from having a superb team in this division. Aslong as we have no more outgoings!
There's one, and if I had the time or energy to go back through the forum then I would find the others.
But I have work to do - I say work, I'm leaving in 4 and a half weeks anyway. But still, haven't got time to trawl back through here. | |
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| Still though, some on here claim we only need 1 more centre mid… on 10:53 - Aug 13 with 419 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
At least 2. At least.
Id also be willing to move on Taylor and Humphreys. |  |
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| Still though, some on here claim we only need 1 more centre mid… on 10:59 - Aug 13 with 407 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Still though, some on here claim we only need 1 more centre mid… on 09:41 - Aug 13 by dirtyboy |
I think most people, without the emotion of last night, accept that Ali is an acceptable 3rd choice striker.
Are we forgetting that Hirst also messed up his penalty? He's our main man, our no.9, if anything, he should be taking more of a hit than Ali as you'd expect him to bury that. Ali isn't anywhere near as good as Hirst, so it's expected.
Hirst, Akpom, Ali. Absolutely fine for our 3, knowing that Ali would not, in an ideal world, be used that much.
The whole 'this summer has been poor' line is something I really struggle with too.
If the window closes and this is our squad, i'd agree, but it isn't. Also, getting business done early isn't as easy as some think. PL squads aren't nailed on and the filter down is well known. Human nature in many circumstances is to leave things to the last minute too. Exhaust all the opportunities before having to make a decision.
Disappointed with last night? Yep.
Disappointed with peformance against Birmingham? Yep.
Concerned about season? Not really.
Need Broadhead and Omari situation sorted though, for the sanity of the group, the speculation must be unsettling for all.
Oh, and glad we tried for Hackney, better to have tried and failed to have not tried at all.
You know, you miss 100% of the shots you don't take etc. World class people have that mindset. |
"Hirst, Akpom, Ali. Absolutely fine for our 3"
I would have to disagree there.
Hirst- Very good player but with long running injury issues.
Akpom- A good player who I like, but has always dons his best work as a 10/2nd Striker as opposed to a number 9 and doesn't fit what a Mckenna striker is. Can see him Central/left 10
AAH- I will say firstly, I feel for him. He gives his all and it is not his fault he is being picked. But he is so far off the level, he doesn't look fully fit to me and we cannot be in a position where he might have to be our starter.
I would have some concerns if they were are 3 9 options. | |
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| Still though, some on here claim we only need 1 more centre mid… on 11:43 - Aug 13 with 359 views | dirtyboy |
| Still though, some on here claim we only need 1 more centre mid… on 10:59 - Aug 13 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
"Hirst, Akpom, Ali. Absolutely fine for our 3"
I would have to disagree there.
Hirst- Very good player but with long running injury issues.
Akpom- A good player who I like, but has always dons his best work as a 10/2nd Striker as opposed to a number 9 and doesn't fit what a Mckenna striker is. Can see him Central/left 10
AAH- I will say firstly, I feel for him. He gives his all and it is not his fault he is being picked. But he is so far off the level, he doesn't look fully fit to me and we cannot be in a position where he might have to be our starter.
I would have some concerns if they were are 3 9 options. |
The joys of opinions....
I don't see Akpom as a 10, he's not creative, he doesn't appear to drop deep and 'make stuff happen'.
Our 2 x CMs are defensive ones, they're not there to create, that's why we've tried to make a potent front 4, so the 10s are key.
Ensico (a little more refined) is what we're really after as a player, we ain't getting that though! | | | |
| Still though, some on here claim we only need 1 more centre mid… on 12:36 - Aug 13 with 318 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Still though, some on here claim we only need 1 more centre mid… on 11:43 - Aug 13 by dirtyboy |
The joys of opinions....
I don't see Akpom as a 10, he's not creative, he doesn't appear to drop deep and 'make stuff happen'.
Our 2 x CMs are defensive ones, they're not there to create, that's why we've tried to make a potent front 4, so the 10s are key.
Ensico (a little more refined) is what we're really after as a player, we ain't getting that though! |
Its a fair point on Akpom and it makes him quite a curious player.
he is a top finisher that is his best asset but all his best work has come as a 10 so I guess versatility is a good thing. | |
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| Still though, some on here claim we only need 1 more centre mid… on 14:14 - Aug 13 with 266 views | Nutkins_Return |
I think most would have have said that's the absolute minimum but that's before Omari and Broadhead go (and before Townsend injury). I think if Broady and Omari were staying that would be about right.
But clearly if they are off then they need replacing and we would need at least 4:
CM
2x forwards (any combination of 2x wide forward, wide & 10 or CF &10)
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| Still though, some on here claim we only need 1 more centre mid… on 14:18 - Aug 13 with 241 views | DarkBrandon |
| Still though, some on here claim we only need 1 more centre mid… on 23:10 - Aug 12 by Blooos |
Maybe not but how on earth are those two our only options in a cup game a season after spending £120m.. no other way of looking at it this has been a very very poor start to the season. Bet they are regretting letting Samy go now. |
I wonder if we are regretting letting Luongo go, rather than Morsy |  | | |
| Still though, some on here claim we only need 1 more centre mid… on 14:29 - Aug 13 with 209 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Still though, some on here claim we only need 1 more centre mid… on 10:51 - Aug 13 by Kieran_Knows |
What are we missing by LongLegs 10 Aug 22:26I genuinely think we are one top quality CM away from having a superb team in this division. Aslong as we have no more outgoings!
There's one, and if I had the time or energy to go back through the forum then I would find the others.
But I have work to do - I say work, I'm leaving in 4 and a half weeks anyway. But still, haven't got time to trawl back through here. |
That's not what they're saying though.
They've said "we are one top quality CM away from having a superb team in this division. That's a superb team - not "that's all we need, nothing more".
And then they qulaify the comment with, "As long as we have no more outgoings!" But we obviously will have more outgoings. There are players on the cusp of leaving and we're already over the squad limit.
So no, your one example isn't an example. | |
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| Still though, some on here claim we only need 1 more centre mid… on 14:33 - Aug 13 with 185 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Still though, some on here claim we only need 1 more centre mid… on 14:18 - Aug 13 by DarkBrandon |
I wonder if we are regretting letting Luongo go, rather than Morsy |
I don't know why people keep bringing up Luongo. He only started two games last season - the first two. And that was only because we didn't have enough players by then (ring any bells?!) After that he mostly made short cameo sub appearances of a few minutes here and there.
He hasn't been an integral part of this team for over a year. | |
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| Still though, some on here claim we only need 1 more centre mid… on 14:37 - Aug 13 with 171 views | jayessess |
| Still though, some on here claim we only need 1 more centre mid… on 14:33 - Aug 13 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I don't know why people keep bringing up Luongo. He only started two games last season - the first two. And that was only because we didn't have enough players by then (ring any bells?!) After that he mostly made short cameo sub appearances of a few minutes here and there.
He hasn't been an integral part of this team for over a year. |
Possibly just because we've left ourselves too much to do revamping the midfield in one Summer and it would have made things easier just to have some experienced cover, be that Morsy or Luongo.
Sometimes you need steady squad players who know your system inside out and provide a bit of continuity. [Post edited 13 Aug 14:39]
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| Still though, some on here claim we only need 1 more centre mid… on 14:51 - Aug 13 with 146 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Still though, some on here claim we only need 1 more centre mid… on 14:37 - Aug 13 by jayessess |
Possibly just because we've left ourselves too much to do revamping the midfield in one Summer and it would have made things easier just to have some experienced cover, be that Morsy or Luongo.
Sometimes you need steady squad players who know your system inside out and provide a bit of continuity. [Post edited 13 Aug 14:39]
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That's a fair point. I'd have kept Morsy for that reason (if we were able to).
But as much as I love Massimo, he's been out of the picture (and looking slow) for a while now. Although that possibly could just be that the Prem is extremely fast. | |
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| Still though, some on here claim we only need 1 more centre mid… on 15:25 - Aug 13 with 90 views | jayessess |
| Still though, some on here claim we only need 1 more centre mid… on 14:51 - Aug 13 by The_Flashing_Smile |
That's a fair point. I'd have kept Morsy for that reason (if we were able to).
But as much as I love Massimo, he's been out of the picture (and looking slow) for a while now. Although that possibly could just be that the Prem is extremely fast. |
Prem was a step too far for him but I think he'll do fine for an excellent Millwall side.
Think keeping either of those two would have made us more comfortable this season. | |
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