| Valid concerns about McKennas decision making 00:21 - Aug 13 with 1902 views | BouncebackIpswich |
2 areas for me
Player identification and recruitment - big money signings have often flattered to receive or been un needed. Huge alarm bells over the likes of Clarke, Muric and Philogene who seem white elephants.
Lack of tactical flexibility and nouse - Persisting with a midfield 2 comes to mind, fitting the players into the formation rather than picking a set up which gets most out of the squad. Also making same mistakes and losing games in the samr manner last year
He is clearly a talented coach and man manager and I'm sure will turn things around. There is absolutely no call for his job to be under scrutiny but there are starting to be a few doubts he needs to answer
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| Valid concerns about McKennas decision making on 00:29 - Aug 13 with 1834 views | stiff_talking |
Not all his top targets are Joining. We are probably down to 5th
Or 6th picks. Ashton is working hard as well. We are a Championship team trying to recruit Premier class…. Not easy. |  | | |
| Valid concerns about McKennas decision making on 00:31 - Aug 13 with 1805 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Valid concerns about McKennas decision making on 00:29 - Aug 13 by stiff_talking |
Not all his top targets are Joining. We are probably down to 5th
Or 6th picks. Ashton is working hard as well. We are a Championship team trying to recruit Premier class…. Not easy. |
Problem is if we keep looking like a disjointed squad with problem players sitting in the background. We aren't gonna attract prem quality players. |  |
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| Valid concerns about McKennas decision making on 00:34 - Aug 13 with 1791 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Staying in England was half the issue. Then trying to fit them all into the team as the best players the champ has to offer. We would not have purchased Clarke and Philogene in one summer but ended with both by Feb. That’s a huge outlay in same position, neither of who seem physically strong, but Philogene has so much talent.
Overall, I blame Villa lol. |  |
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| Valid concerns about McKennas decision making on 00:37 - Aug 13 with 1760 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Valid concerns about McKennas decision making on 00:34 - Aug 13 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Staying in England was half the issue. Then trying to fit them all into the team as the best players the champ has to offer. We would not have purchased Clarke and Philogene in one summer but ended with both by Feb. That’s a huge outlay in same position, neither of who seem physically strong, but Philogene has so much talent.
Overall, I blame Villa lol. |
Think we've killed clarke on the left personally.
Either we convert him back to his original wide right position or sell him. | |
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| Valid concerns about McKennas decision making on 00:39 - Aug 13 with 1749 views | BouncebackIpswich |
| Valid concerns about McKennas decision making on 00:34 - Aug 13 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Staying in England was half the issue. Then trying to fit them all into the team as the best players the champ has to offer. We would not have purchased Clarke and Philogene in one summer but ended with both by Feb. That’s a huge outlay in same position, neither of who seem physically strong, but Philogene has so much talent.
Overall, I blame Villa lol. |
I agree that it's far too early to write off Philogene, he does look to have potential, but we're getting to that point with Jack Clarke who's just not suited to our system, then you look at Muric, bought on at great expense and bombed out after a year because he couldn't do what we need of him in our system, it all just seems so dysfunctional, like we buy the player first and then try and mould him to suit our team, when we should be identifying players in positions we clearly need who will suit the way we play or wish to play.
Or, KM has to evolve the system to adapt to the personnel.... | | | |
| Valid concerns about McKennas decision making on 00:45 - Aug 13 with 1705 views | Illinoisblue |
| Valid concerns about McKennas decision making on 00:34 - Aug 13 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Staying in England was half the issue. Then trying to fit them all into the team as the best players the champ has to offer. We would not have purchased Clarke and Philogene in one summer but ended with both by Feb. That’s a huge outlay in same position, neither of who seem physically strong, but Philogene has so much talent.
Overall, I blame Villa lol. |
We’ve been stubbornly insistent on shopping for English/British players while, for example, Birmingham have had success with Asian players for less than half the fees we’ve paid out. The problem with the supposed “shopping for prem-ready” players is half a championship season will be over before they’ve had chance to bed in. And that’s if they even get here. |  |
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| Valid concerns about McKennas decision making on 00:47 - Aug 13 with 1681 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Valid concerns about McKennas decision making on 00:39 - Aug 13 by BouncebackIpswich |
I agree that it's far too early to write off Philogene, he does look to have potential, but we're getting to that point with Jack Clarke who's just not suited to our system, then you look at Muric, bought on at great expense and bombed out after a year because he couldn't do what we need of him in our system, it all just seems so dysfunctional, like we buy the player first and then try and mould him to suit our team, when we should be identifying players in positions we clearly need who will suit the way we play or wish to play.
Or, KM has to evolve the system to adapt to the personnel.... |
I’m concerned about recruitment and have voiced it for a while. The Muric thing cost even more money to get Palmer to save face and he’s not a ball player, see Friday night and two CBs out of position for a reason after that launch into a non existent midfield. Horrible goal to watch back for so many reasons.
When you see this as a club with cash that hasn’t had it for a while, it is a worry. We are behind on that front make no doubt about it.
If we are being honest, it looked like last summer we just said, get the best players out of the champ without much serious thought around how they’d all fit. Then look at Sunderland this year in the foreign markets with seemingly more consideration around it (top flight European experience and strength), curious to se how they’ll do.
The reason a lot of our signings were so good for their respective clubs is they were the focal points of those teams (including some in the bottom half). It’s hard to just throw that all in together. I hated spending over 100M on champ players.
We’ve still got good players of course but we need to figure out how to get the best of them and fast. This summer has actually been ok but still feel we are paying for some issues from our PL recruitment. We still have work to do next few weeks as well. [Post edited 13 Aug 0:57]
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| Valid concerns about McKennas decision making on 01:27 - Aug 13 with 1497 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
Are they valid concerns because you said they were?
Is this another ‘I’ve just got very real concerns’? |  |
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| Valid concerns about McKennas decision making on 02:38 - Aug 13 with 1344 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Valid concerns about McKennas decision making on 01:27 - Aug 13 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Are they valid concerns because you said they were?
Is this another ‘I’ve just got very real concerns’? |
Have they all gone well then? | |
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| Valid concerns about McKennas decision making on 03:23 - Aug 13 with 1291 views | stiff_talking |
| Valid concerns about McKennas decision making on 02:38 - Aug 13 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Have they all gone well then? |
McKenna won’t change his principals of tactics so recruitment has to be based upon players fitting into his system. Free kick and corner routines need work. We have been uninspiring for too long. | | | |
| Valid concerns about McKennas decision making on 04:17 - Aug 13 with 1233 views | muccletonjoe |
It's not just his decision making. The whole set up of the team is the same for every game. It will be the same against southampton on Sunday. We will try to contain them , pass the ball around their area , offer very little in the way of chances and ultimately not get a result. How many games does this repeat itself before either he or the supporters get the message ? |  | | |
| Valid concerns about McKennas decision making on 04:58 - Aug 13 with 1158 views | MK1 |
| Valid concerns about McKennas decision making on 04:17 - Aug 13 by muccletonjoe |
It's not just his decision making. The whole set up of the team is the same for every game. It will be the same against southampton on Sunday. We will try to contain them , pass the ball around their area , offer very little in the way of chances and ultimately not get a result. How many games does this repeat itself before either he or the supporters get the message ? |
It has worked pretty well so far. Short term memory? |  |
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| Valid concerns about McKennas decision making on 05:20 - Aug 13 with 1111 views | stiff_talking |
| Valid concerns about McKennas decision making on 04:58 - Aug 13 by MK1 |
It has worked pretty well so far. Short term memory? |
We are still 5 starters missing and tonight was our B team. Kit it together and let’s judge the team once it’s completely through the door. | | | |
| Valid concerns about McKennas decision making on 05:32 - Aug 13 with 1066 views | Bluemike31 |
There's valid concerns everywhere right now, I just don't think his body language and general approach is right, I felt it Friday and again last night.
He's never been the most bubbly of people but he's coming across down and very fed up, at times he sat on the bench last night really looking like he didn't want to be there, needs to get some of the passion back for me. | | | |
| Valid concerns about McKennas decision making on 10:37 - Aug 13 with 659 views | TIB |
This is all pretty spot on.
We do however now have two of the top scorers from the Championship over the last few seasons…SS and Akpom. As much as Clarke is proving a bit of a flop, I still don’t want to see either of these players out wide left. Play them up top where they’re best. |  |
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| Valid concerns about McKennas decision making on 10:43 - Aug 13 with 606 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
I've always found the questions over his tactical flexibility a bit odd, he has been consistently flexible with his setup and how he uses players. It is the overwhelming reason we were promoted out the championship against much better squads. He was the same last season we just dont have the quality, so it didn't really matter.
He may not change the formation, but you would be hard pressed to find many top managers if any who go away from their preferred system. Its more about how the players line up on the pitch than the formation itself. |  |
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| Valid concerns about McKennas decision making on 10:45 - Aug 13 with 581 views | HighgateBlue |
It's so funny to read his comments on Akpom:
"Usually with us, it’s more about trying to fit the strengths of the players into the team rather than pigeon-holing them into having to be this position or that."
I'm not sure how many fans would agree with that. |  | | |
| Valid concerns about McKennas decision making on 10:45 - Aug 13 with 576 views | backwaywhen |
| Valid concerns about McKennas decision making on 05:20 - Aug 13 by stiff_talking |
We are still 5 starters missing and tonight was our B team. Kit it together and let’s judge the team once it’s completely through the door. |
Out of curiosity did Burnley stick with the majority of the squad that got relegated from the Prem ? | | | |
| Valid concerns about McKennas decision making on 10:48 - Aug 13 with 547 views | smithy69 |
No mention of finding Hutchinson On a loan as a 18 year old and then probably doubling the money in 8 months. Findin Delap on the bench at Hull and doubling his money in 8 months
Buying Broadhead and Leif for a million each. Buying Hirst for peanuts
They have made great buys and buys that haven’t worked out - b it you cant just mention the bad ones as you put it. Writing Philogene and Clarke off is silly | | | |
| Valid concerns about McKennas decision making on 10:49 - Aug 13 with 532 views | itfctilidie |
| Valid concerns about McKennas decision making on 00:29 - Aug 13 by stiff_talking |
Not all his top targets are Joining. We are probably down to 5th
Or 6th picks. Ashton is working hard as well. We are a Championship team trying to recruit Premier class…. Not easy. |
Keep seeing these type of statements, so I'll argue that it seems when we were in the premier league last year, we seemed to have recruited for the championship. Recruitment in the last 12 months has been poor |  | | |
| Valid concerns about McKennas decision making on 11:12 - Aug 13 with 394 views | Bobbychase |
As others have said, we are in an odd position of trying to buy players who we believe will give us a better chance of staying up next year than last year's cohort did, but buying them while a Championship club. McKenna just identifies the targets in conjunction with the board and his coaches and Ashton's job is to go and get them. McKenna has no blame for who signs and who doesn't.
He has far too much credit in the bank for his coaching and tactics for us to be questioning this season after (checks notes) one very hard away game and a cup match with a much changed team. |  |
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| Valid concerns about McKennas decision making on 11:21 - Aug 13 with 327 views | monty_radio |
| Valid concerns about McKennas decision making on 10:49 - Aug 13 by itfctilidie |
Keep seeing these type of statements, so I'll argue that it seems when we were in the premier league last year, we seemed to have recruited for the championship. Recruitment in the last 12 months has been poor |
We have some brilliant players who, so far, haven't been coaxed/coached into brilliant performances. We have a manager who, by comment consent (see Morsy and his comments) makes players better. McK wasn't able to pull off this trick in the face of the weekly Prem juggernaught; for a variety of reasons he doesn't yet seem to have those we own, or those whom we are being held back from using, knotting together into the fearsome coherence that served us previously in L1 and the Championship. Hopefully October will have us witnessing a return to this sort of strength whoever comes or goes. | |
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